The OFFICIAL (10/11/11) Debate Thread! - Bloomberg / WaPo @ Dartmouth

On Fox, Gingrich (with a ton of RP signs waving behind him) just said RP was happy tonight because he got to talk about the federal reserve and an audit which he's been trying to do for 30 years. He also said that he had forgot that Cain served at the Kansas City Federal Reserve in the 90's.
 
On Fox, Gingrich (with a ton of RP signs waving behind him) just said RP was happy tonight because he got to talk about the federal reserve and an audit which he's been trying to do for 30 years. He also said that he had forgot that Cain served at the Kansas City Federal Reserve in the 90's.

forgot my ass, what a panderer.
 
Cain was all confused on that payroll tax answer. He was claiming that the 9% would replace the payroll tax, but then he claims the 9% would replace the income tax. Here are the real numbers:

PAY NOW
Payroll tax: 7.65% paid by employee; 7.65% paid by employer
Individual income tax: 10% - 35% marginal paid by employee
Corporate income tax: 15% - 39% marginal paid by employer

CAIN PLAN
Individual income tax: 9% flat paid by employee, no deductions
Corporate income tax: 9% flat paid by employer, no deductions
National sales tax: 9%

So Cain doesn't even know what his own plan does...

He actually says that his plan removes both, income and payroll tax. My point is that he has been defending that his plan doesn't increase taxes to poor Americans because just in payroll taxes they pay 15.3%, which is wrong. Yet the media never corrects him on that. BTW, employees now pay 5.65%.
 
ahh, many thanks. to my view, convincing democrats to support paul is going to give us more momentum than convincing republicans to stand up for what they believe in; and this is embodied in the personage of RON PAUL.

Thanks.

Agreed, I posted in another thread that I spent the night with #occupy protesters last night and people would listen about ron paul especially about ending the wars and marijuana prohibition by Obama's DEA.
 
I think instead of talking in general terms Ron needs to give specific details at each debate and roll out a proposal on exactly what he will do. I here a lot of people I talk to about him say they haven't heard specifics from any canidates. I think Cains 999 proposal (his 999 plan is very dangerous) is something simple for people to understand and its a specific proposal.
 
Bloomberg has Austan Goolsbee on now to analyze all the candidates talks about Perry/Cain no Ron Paul... whata a loser channel


Why are these Bloomberg losers laughing Margret Brener, Al Hunt, and the clown that stated: THE Viciousness AGAINST THE FED tonight.

Bloomberg went through all the candidates except Ron Paul

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Little strange Ron Paul hasn't brought up the CAGR in M2 yet
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Did you ever see the WWE? Ron Paul swam through a shark feeding frenzy and came out unscathed.

Whether it was obvious enough how superior he was to give him a bump is something we don't know yet.

He did well, but in my opinion, he really needs to have a clear plan. The fact that he doesn't is hurting him.

He also badly needs a Reagan moment that will slap the American people back into reality.
 
He did well, but in my opinion, he really needs to have a clear plan. The fact that he doesn't is hurting him.

He also badly needs a Reagan moment that will slap the American people back into reality.

oh the time is coming...you can feel it in the world.
 
That 9% sales tax is the hidden monster. Imagine what the next democrat or republican would do with cains 9% sales tax, heres a hint ^
 
Everyone on that stage either lied or willfully mislead the public tonight except Ron.
 
Anyone else get the feeling that a majority of Americans are morons?

All you have to do is throw out a catch phrase "9-9-9!" "9-9-9!!!" and it sticks....

Inevitably, people start talking about politics and then it becomes, well that Cain guy has a plan! It's a 9-9-9 plan! Brilliant!

Depressing.

People are now mentioning that Cain's plan includes a NEW FEDERAL TAX.

People don't want a new tax.

They might like 9 toppings for 9 bucks 9 days a week, but they don't want a New Federal Tax.

TV Commercials, if necessary, can knock Cain down. I think Cain was hurt tonight.

I'd keep attacking Perry.
 
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