The Offical Campaign and Grassroots must unite as ONE

JimDude

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Back in 1776, our founding fathers signed their names to the Declaration of Independance and began a war with the British. Back then, The United States of America was just a idea, they had no national identity, there were 13 separate colonies all with there all own identity and ideas. But the 13 colonies knew if they wanted to defeat the Mighty British Army, they needed to Unite, to become as "One." So they did, under the leadership of the great George Washington, they made a united army and made their stance against Britain in the name of freedom. The idea of each Colony fighting they own war against Britain would of surely led to their defeat, yet here today, this is how our campaign is working.

Flash forward to today, RP is running for president, he gains a large national grassroots following. Instead of uniting this great force, he all but ignores it, and leaves it alone. Lassiez Faire. But this strategy has proven itself ineffective. The grassroots does a good job of working together, making ideas, doing things, and getting support. But there is no unifying force. Although there is a central goal to the grassroots, many different factions exist who do their own thing. Some good, and some bad. The central Campaign, which holds all the money and many times is given sole responsibility to do many things which the grassroots could do, has made numerous mistakes and in many ways, has failed us. Like in 1776, our grassroots is separated into many colonies/factions. Only the Offical Campaign has the power to bring our resources together and to unite us.

Simply working together is not good enough. The colonies didnt just "work together" they joined as ONE. The Grassroots and Offical Campaign should not just work together but truly become ONE. I suggest we do this, by a couple of ways,first by putting this Forum or make another forum so that it is on the Offical Ron Paul website. By putting this forum on the RP website, it will bring us together with HQ so that we can work directly with each other instead of working independantly. Second, some sort of rating/voting or some other system should be created that allows supporters to pick and choose the best TV Ads/ideas and suggestions that are then implemented by the HQ. Basically, the Grassroots should be able to create and put into practice ideas they come up with using the Offical HQ and their funds. In this way, the creativity and intelligence of he grassroots can be utilized. And only ideas with a large amount of support would make it through. As of right now, all were doing is working with the HQ and simply suggesting idea instead of having real power. This would be like the 13 colonies doing they own thing in 1776 while funding the Congress and expecting them to win us the war.
We need a fundamental change. Doing the same old things is not gonna get us anywhere. If HQ doesnt listen to us, if they continue to ignore us, than we must do what needs to be done.
Last time I checked, this is not just some "Campaign" its a Revolution. If you think this is just a regular old "campaign", then by all means, dont change or do anything, but if you believe this is a Revolution, than its time for you to rise, to take charge, come together and unite our grassroots as "ONE."
 
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Our views do not necessarily represent those of Ron Paul, if the official site links here that would be dumb.

For LEGAL REASONS this can't be done. There are already reports where the campaign is getting into FEC trouble for having too much involvement in our grassroots activities.

The blimp is a good example what the grassroots can do and what the official campaign cannot do.

Keep them separate. The grassroots IS the campaign, its up to US. Act like there isn't even an HQ. Assume nothing.
 
they cant become one. illegal. also, precinct captain, pretty well organized help for the grassroots. so stop trolling the forums with your dumb ideas and become a precinct captain.
 
Back in 1776, our founding fathers signed their names to the Declaration of Independance and began a war with the British. Back then, The United States of America was just a idea, they had no national identity, there were 13 separate colonies all with there all own identity and ideas. But the 13 colonies knew if they wanted to defeat the Mighty British Army, they needed to Unite, to become as "One." So they did, under the leadership of the great George Washington, they made a united army and made their stance against Britain in the name of freedom. The idea of each Colony fighting they own war against Britain would of surely led to their defeat, yet here today, this is how our campaign is working.

Flash forward to today, RP is running for president, he gains a large national grassroots following. Instead of uniting this great force, he all but ignores it, and leaves it alone. Lassiez Faire. But this strategy has proven itself ineffective. The grassroots does a good job of working together, making ideas, doing things, and getting support. But there is no unifying force. Although there is a central goal to the grassroots, many different factions exist who do their own thing. Some good, and some bad. The central Campaign, which holds all the money and many times is given sole responsibility to do many things which the grassroots could do, has made numerous mistakes and in many ways, has failed us. Like in 1776, our grassroots is separated into many colonies/factions. Only the Offical Campaign has the power to bring our resources together and to unite us.

Simply working together is not good enough. The colonies didnt just "work together" they joined as ONE. The Grassroots and Offical Campaign should not just work together but truly become ONE. I suggest we do this, by a couple of ways,first by putting this Forum or make another forum so that it is on the Offical Ron Paul website. By putting this forum on the RP website, it will bring us together with HQ so that we can work directly with each other instead of working independantly. Second, some sort of rating/voting or some other system should be created that allows supporters to pick and choose the best TV Ads/ideas and suggestions that are then implemented by the HQ. Basically, the Grassroots should be able to create and put into practice ideas they come up with using the Offical HQ and their funds. In this way, the creativity and intelligence of he grassroots can be utilized. And only ideas with a large amount of support would make it through. As of right now, all were doing is working with the HQ and simply suggesting idea instead of having real power. This would be like the 13 colonies doing they own thing in 1776 while funding the Congress and expecting them to win us the war.
We need a fundamental change. Doing the same old things is not gonna get us anywhere. If HQ doesnt listen to us, if they continue to ignore us, than we must do what needs to be done.
Last time I checked, this is not just some "Campaign" its a Revolution. If you think this is just a regular old "campaign", then by all means, dont change or do anything, but if you believe this is a Revolution, than its time for you to rise, to take charge, come together and unite our grassroots as "ONE."

Congratulations. Your soapbox apparently blocked your view of the campaign laws.
 
NO
Our views do not necessarily represent those of Ron Paul, if the official site links here that would be dumb.
For LEGAL REASONS this can't be done. There are already reports where the campaign is getting into FEC trouble for having too much involvement in our grassroots activities.
The blimp is a good example what the grassroots can do and what the official campaign cannot do.
Keep them separate. The grassroots IS the campaign, its up to US. Act like there isn't even an HQ. Assume nothing.

First of all, wut laws? and second, i have no problemo with your ideas, but if you believe the grassroots is the whole campaign, why do we even have a hq? Why do they have so much money? Whats the use of the hq, if the whole campaign is riding on us? If you believe that, than why dont we fund our own tv ads? make our own radio ads? Those are a whole lot more effective than blimps. Its because were scattered across the nation, it'd be like the 13 colonies fighting the war however each one wanted to. it had a chance to work, it didnt dude.
 
the OP is a dumbass. you dont expect the sky and the ground to come together as one do you? the definition of grassroots is pretty much 'not official campaign affiliated'
 
First of all, wut laws? and second, i have no problemo with your ideas, but if you believe the grassroots is the whole campaign, why do we even have a hq? Why do they have so much money? Whats the use of the hq, if the whole campaign is riding on us? If you believe that, than why dont we fund our own tv ads? make our own radio ads? Those are a whole lot more effective than blimps. Its because were scattered across the nation, it'd be like the 13 colonies fighting the war however each one wanted to. it had a chance to work, it didnt dude.


Yeah see there are many restrictions the official campaign must follow or they could be fined or go to jail. I agree blimps are not cost effective I have always been against it but we do fund ads and we need to continue to.
 
Congratulations. Your soapbox apparently blocked your view of the campaign laws.

Yeah see there are many restrictions the official campaign must follow or they could be fined or go to jail. I agree blimps are not cost effective I have always been against it but we do fund ads and we need to continue to.

Okay, what specific laws are you referring to? Lets imagine for a moment if your paranoid vision of the future could become true. Whats the worst that could happen? We get headlines like, "Ron Paul arrested for working with Supporters."

"Ron Paul supporters organize, FCC arrests dozens"
I dont think your nightmare scenario is gonna happen, afterall, were running to change the laws, maybe there are ways we could get around these laws, maybe there are loop holes. But we must try, we gotta become ONE force. A united army of supporters working together to put in place thier ideas to change america. Not a scattered group of small supporters acrooss the nation, but "ONE" force.
 
Okay, what specific laws are you referring to? Lets imagine for a moment if your paranoid vision of the future could become true. Whats the worst that could happen? We get headlines like, "Ron Paul arrested for working with Supporters."

"Ron Paul supporters organize, FCC arrests dozens"
I dont think your nightmare scenario is gonna happen, afterall, were running to change the laws, maybe there are ways we could get around these laws, maybe there are loop holes. But we must try, we gotta become ONE force. A united army of supporters working together to put in place thier ideas to change america. Not a scattered group of small supporters acrooss the nation, but "ONE" force.

(Gordon Freeman crowbars some sense into you)

Trust me the laws are there and they are enforced. You can look them up if you like, but you can be sure that the other campaigns watch us like hawks in this area and if they see us breaking the law they're going to scream bloody murder.
 
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