The NH Free State Project

[pinkmandy]

Who's in that wasn't before or hasn't moved yet?

For those who don't know anything about it, read www.freestateproject.org and be sure to read the 101 reasons link on the right.

 

[Orgoonian]

I'll be there in March Pinkmandy!!!

 

[pinkmandy]

Woot! We're looking at late spring, early summer (maybe sooner). Unfortunately we own our house here in VA so we have to do some clean up and get it on the market for a few months and if it doesn't sell find a tenant. Ugh. If we rented we'd be job searching right now and planning the move yesterday, lol.

 

[Orgoonian]

Woot! We're looking at late spring, early summer (maybe sooner). Unfortunately we own our house here in VA so we have to do some clean up and get it on the market for a few months and if it doesn't sell find a tenant. Ugh. If we rented we'd be job searching right now and planning the move yesterday, lol.

Yea,i hear ya.
Fortunately for me, the housing market is very good here in central Oregon,with all the Kalifornians moving up.(No offense to my fellow liberty lovers from there)My house should sell very quickly.
My son will be staying here,and handling the transaction for me.
I hope all goes well for you,i am very excited about this.

 

[pinkmandy]

Well I guess I'll be meeting you some Tuesday at Murphy's Taproom!

 

[BuddyRey]

I love the idea of forming a free state community, but see a few problems with it also. For example, if you concentrate all the intelligent, well-informed libertarians in just one small geographic area, it

A. Makes it harder for people who don't have access to these ideas to be influenced by them.

and

B. Makes it a lot easier for a corrupt U.S. Gov't to hunt us all down.

I think there's something to be said for tactical dispersal, and maintaining wider-ranging spheres of influence by being active in our own communities. However, I did vote "I'm still thinking about it", because the idea of living in a libertarian Utopia (even a balls-cold one) is mighty tempting.

 

[porcupine]

Well I guess I'll be meeting you some Tuesday at Murphy's Taproom!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykYVIUk-mqs

 

[pinkmandy]

I love the idea of forming a free state community, but see a few problems with it also. For example, if you concentrate all the intelligent, well-informed libertarians in just one small geographic area, it

A. Makes it harder for people who don't have access to these ideas to be influenced by them.

and

B. Makes it a lot easier for a corrupt U.S. Gov't to hunt us all down.

I think there's something to be said for tactical dispersal, and maintaining wider-ranging spheres of influence by being active in our own communities. However, I did vote "I'm still thinking about it", because the idea of living in a libertarian Utopia (even a balls-cold one) is mighty tempting.

I would agree with you in some situations but I think our situation is dire. It is MUCH easier to be hunted down and taken away without your neighbors, communities saying anything when you're alone. In Russia the agents came in the middle of the night, no one said anything, everyone just hoped they wouldn't knock on their doors. If it comes to that sort of situation, I want to be in a state or area surrounded by folks who have guns, know their rights, and are willing to not let the officials in. I know that won't happen here in my area in VA.

I also think the govt has already hunted us down, they know where we are. They monitor these boards and similar ones all over the net. If I'm going to be hunted down I hope to be among like minded freedom lovers when/if it happens- God knows my current neighbors wouldn't do a thing other than discuss how I must have been a terrorist.

And if we succeed, we will influence the whole country. If we don't, then we'll have each other to depend on. If nothing else, I want to live among people who know how to take care of themselves and won't be stealing my food (or much worse because we know how some people become animals in times of crisis- I have kids, kwim?).

As you can see I'm totally pumped up about NH. I feel like I'm being called "home" or something. :o


Oh, the weather isn't so bad in the whole state. You can go to weather.com and plug in different towns to see the monthly avgs for the entire year for that area.

And...if all else fails we can hide in the mountains. Around 85% of NH is still wooded!

 

[porcupine]

I love the idea of forming a free state community, but see a few problems with it also. For example, if you concentrate all the intelligent, well-informed libertarians in just one small geographic area, it

A. Makes it harder for people who don't have access to these ideas to be influenced by them.

Because we have so much influence now?

B. Makes it a lot easier for a corrupt U.S. Gov't to hunt us all down.

You think it'll be easier to fight back all by yourself, while free staters will have thousands of people to back them up?

I think there's something to be said for tactical dispersal

Sure, that strategy is working out so well for us right now...not.

 

[pinkmandy]

I've converted a friend! She was going to move out of the country and is now going to try NH first.

 

[freedom-maniac]

Where's the poll option for:

"Screw NH, and give it back to the Indians after electing Hitlery and McWar"?

 

[pinkmandy]

Hitlery and McCain aren't that giving.

 

[porcupine]

Where's the poll option for:

"Screw NH, and give it back to the Indians after electing Hitlery and McWar"?

The fact is Ron Paul hasn't won ANY states so that isn't a very good criterion (and even if he had, it would still be a bad criterion).

Ron Paul did better in New Hampshire than in ANY PRIMARY IN THE COUNTRY! To complain it wasn't an absolute victory is ridiculous.

Is it bad that he couldn't win anywhere? Yeah! If this country weren't on the brink, we wouldn't need a Free State Project. We could work where we live. BUt we are on the brink and the old methods won't work.

New Hampshire is America's second freest state (I'd say Alaska is more free), but it is not yet free. The community of free staters will change that.

 

[Luft97]

You left out the option : I like the idea of the free state but New Hampshire is not an option.

 

[FreeStater]

You left out the option : I like the idea of the free state but New Hampshire is not an option.

just mark the "I'd rather be a slave than cold" option. The reasons may be different, but it amounts to the same thing.

 

[porcupine]

just mark the "I'd rather be a slave than cold" option. The reasons may be different, but it amounts to the same thing.

Exactly

 

[Richie]

Free states ranked from best to least:

1. Montana
2. Alaska
3. New Hampshire

In my opinion, New Hampshire is definitely not the freest state in the union. However, it's the one with the best career opportunities.

 

[porcupine]

Free states ranked from best to least:

1. Montana
2. Alaska
3. New Hampshire

In my opinion, New Hampshire is definitely not the freest state in the union. However, it's the one with the best career opportunities.

I think Alaska is the freest state, but it has two problems. We would never get a significant number of people form the lower 49 to move there and those who moved would be too spread out to form a Free Stater community (which is, after all, much of what this is all about: synergy).

New Hampshire was a good pick. It's where the action is. It's where I'm staying and am happy to be.

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

I did not find the other poll about choosing states so I will post this state comparison here.

The system is biased toward big government so do not take the grades at face value.

However, NH plummeted from 2005 to 2008.

I am not sure if you can blame that on the Democrat takeover.

http://www.pewcenteronthestates.org/initiatives_detail.aspx?initiativeID=36072



http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[porcupine]

I don't know what you call "performance," but New Hampshire has a super-lean budget, meaning it doesn't provide alot of services that other states do. It's DMV isn't even open 40 hours per week.

And we love it