The next wave of demographic warfare: thousands from Ebola ravaged Africa on the way

[juleswin]

We should be concerned about it, but how easy is it to cure and what is its death rate.
Ebola is very difficult to cure and has an 80% death rate.

The death rate is high but it is also easily preventable. I think we should also pay attention to other infectious diseases just not ebola.

 

[Zippyjuan]

If they are "over stays" they aren't "undocumented." WTF? And you link an article quoting 2014 figures. Just shut the $#@! up already. Your red bar is deserved. Can't believe I defnded you so long ago. When you actually sourced relevant data.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/6860...a-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings

For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings

January 16, 2019

As the Trump administration demands funding for a border wall to stop illegal immigration, a new study finds that for the seventh consecutive year, visa overstays far exceeded unauthorized border crossings.

The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, people who overstayed their visas accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally.

"It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers. This is not a blip, but a trend which has become the norm," said Donald Kerwin, CMS' executive director, in a statement. "As these numbers indicate, construction of hundreds of more miles of border wall would not address the challenge of irregular migration into our country, far from it."

The study also finds that the undocumented population from Mexico fell by almost 400,000 people in 2017 and that since 2010, the number of undocumented from that country fell by 1.3 million.

"We have made tremendous progress since the year 2000 in reducing undocumented immigration into this country," the study's author, CMS senior fellow Robert Warren, told NPR.

The study also finds that in 2017, for the first time, the unauthorized population from Mexico constituted less than one-half of all the undocumented people in the U.S.

At the same time, Mexico was the leading country for visa overstays in 2016, "about twice the number from India, China and Venezuela," according to the study. The number of undocumented people coming from Venezuela, which is wracked by political and economic turmoil, increased from 60,000 in 2013 to 145,000 in 2017. Virtually all are visa overstays.

More at link.

 

[phill4paul]

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/6860...a-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings





More at link.

Just shut the fuck up with your NPR (Globalist) misinterpretation already. There's a reason you are in the red. This is one of them.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Just shut the $#@! up with your NPR (Globalist) misinterpretation already. There's a reason you are in the red. This is one of them.

I see you are unable to provide any data to disprove mine. Thanks for trying.

But if you don't like NPR, what about the conservative Washington Examiner? (i also included a link earlier to the actual DHS report)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/visa-overstays-outpaced-illegal-border-crossings-in-2017-dhs

Visa overstays outpaced illegal border crossings in 2017: DHS

More people overstayed their visas in 2017 than crossed into the United States illegally that year, the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday.

DHS said almost 702,000 people who entered the U.S. legally last year didn't leave the country in time, and were deemed to be in the U.S. illegally. That's just a bit more than 1 percent of the 52.7 million people who came as students, or for business or personal reasons last year.

That's more than the 361,993 who tried to enter the U.S. illegally last year, most of whom tried to enter at the southwest border.

The nonimmigrant group with the highest overstay rate was student and exchange visa recipients. Four percent of the 1.6 million people who received those visas stayed past the expiration of their visa.

The total overstay number was broken down by Visa Waiver Program nations, which are countries whose citizens can go to the U.S. for up to 90 days without a visa, and non VWP countries.

DHS said that among citizens from the 38 VWP countries who were allowed to come and go without a visa, 0.51 percent — around 110,000 of the 22.5 million — overstayed. The rate of overstay from non-VWP countries was nearly four times higher, 1.91 percent.

About 1 percent of those who entered from Canada legally and were expected to leave last year did not, and the corresponding rate from Mexico was 1.6 percent.

Fox News? (don't have any Russian sources at this time). https://www.foxnews.com/politics/more-than-700k-foreign-nationals-overstayed-visas-in-2017-dhs-says

More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says

 

[phill4paul]

I see you are unable to provide any data to disprove mine.

Don't have the time to educate you. Last month over 125k illegals crossed the border. This is a current sum. The current population of my ENTIRE county. Play your word games, your ineffectual 5yrs. ago data means nothing.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Don't have the time to educate you. Last month over 125k illegals crossed the border. This is a current sum. The current population of my ENTIRE county. Play your word games, your ineffectual 5yrs. ago data means nothing.

In 2017, 700,000 overstayed their visas. Links provided including DHS and Fox News.

Border apprehensions include asylum seekers who are trying to enter the country legally. Apprehended does not mean they made it into the country illegally. In 2018, that number was 400,000. Also if the same person was caught five times, that counts as five separate apprehensions. Visa overstayers did remain in the country.

 

[phill4paul]

In 2017, 700,000 overstayed their visas. Links provided.

Those 700k didn't come in in a six month period and had only a 6 month stay. Stop with your bullshit already. Over 100k a month trespassing over the border does not equal the number of overstays that have been here for years. Unless you're CNN.

 

[phill4paul]

In 2017, 700,000 overstayed their visas. Links provided.

So what year were they granted a Visa and how long was it for? Prior to 2017? For 1 yr. or two? Or more. Stop with your bullshit.

 

[Zippyjuan]

So what year were they granted a Visa and how long was it for? Prior to 2017? For 1 yr. or two? Or more. Stop with your bull$#@!.

I see you are unable to provide alternative figures. Thank you for trying.

The figure for overstays was the total who were supposed to leave during that year- not a total of all those in the country who overstayed a visa at any point in the past. Lengths of visas varies. More info at the DHS report link posted earlier. To save you having to look for it, here it is: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/18_0807_S1_Entry-Exit-Overstay_Report.pdf

 

[Swordsmyth]

The death rate is high but it is also easily preventable. I think we should also pay attention to other infectious diseases just not ebola.

I take it you mean "not just Ebola" rather than "just not Ebola".

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I see you are unable to provide alternative figures.

For who? You? Why would he do that?

 

[juleswin]

I take it you mean "not just Ebola" rather than "just not Ebola".

Yes, that is what I meant to say. I think a medical screening and maybe a 30 day quarantine should be implemented for anyone coming from a disease ravaged region. What do u say?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, that is what I meant to say. I think a medical screening and maybe a 30 day quarantine should be implemented for anyone coming from a disease ravaged region. What do u say?

That sounds sensible.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Numbers were actually worse under Bush.

Wait a minute...the rest of the one worlders here are telling me that migration has "exploded" under Trump...ya'll need to keep your stories straight.

Do you honestly dispute the fact that Trump has personally caused a huge surge in illegal immigration since he took office?

 

[Anti Federalist]

You die, just like every other civilization that allowed migrants to overwhelm them.

Of course...some of us thinking more clearly about this realize that.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Wait a minute...the rest of the one worlders here are telling me that migration has "exploded" under Trump...ya'll need to keep your stories straight.

Just like "they come here to work and don't get welfare" vs. "ending incentives is all we need to do".
Or "the wall won't keep them out" vs. "the wall will keep us in".

 

[Anti Federalist]

dupe

 

[Anti Federalist]

Top Execs of 180 Companies: Abortion Necessary to Be Successful in Business

Now...these are the same execs that claim that unlimited immigration is the only way their businesses will stay afloat, to keep a fresh supply of cogs for the corporate gears.

So, they fund and support abortion, they fund and support feminism, they fund and support weirdosexualism...and then complain there aren't enough new worker beetles to go around without importing millions of third worlders.

Don't tell me there is no plan there.

 

[TheTexan]

If we don't put a stop to these immigrants, they're gonna turn our Great country into some kind of tyrannical socialist hellhole!

We certainly wouldn't want that to happen!!

 

[timosman]

If we don't put a stop to these immigrants, they're gonna turn our Great country into some kind of tyrannical socialist hellhole!

We certainly wouldn't want that to happen!!