The media is not invincible. Let's figure out how to take them down.

Bottom line is we need to destroy the MSM's capability to manipulate elections by manipulating the older crowd which almost exclusively gets their info from the MSM.

However, lets put this project on hold and focus on getting Paul elected for now.

They are one and the same mission. Expose the Santorum hoax using the last two weeks MSM clips and pundits crap in a 20 minute film that employs our own fact captions to expose truth. Together we can create a viral video indictment of the MSM that exposes that Fake anti-Mitt is actually an "ACROSS THE BOARD" media-created Rick.

On the website where our "movie" appears we could announce the creation of a new PAC (can that be done?) to finance media scrutinizing throughout the election period. Wagging the dog isn't cool!

Let that wonderful Jon Stewart clip on media neglect guide us to make it most attractive.
 
Read. My. Lips.

Instead of trying to figure out how to "get" the media, figure out to be delegates and WIN the GOP nomination for Ron Paul!

http://ronpauldelegates.wordpress.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RonPaulDelegates2012

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Right, just like RP says the Federal Reserve is the root cause of our economic problems and must be addressed -- the media is the root cause of our democracy problems.

Fox and CNN get half their money from subscriber fees. I won't suggest that boycotts work, but there is a trend that could possibly be accelerated. I am about 9 months Dish free and DO NOT miss it. My TV has Roku, Wii (Netflix if I so desired - I don't), OTA HDTV, and will be adding a small form factor PC with linux to watch other streams. This may not be a family friendly solution if you have a spouse or kids to keep entertained but it is a growing trend. Vote with your wallet and Fox/CNN/*BC/*BS will become irrelevant.

That means over the last two quarters, 335,000 basic cable subscribers have decided to go without. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the 100 million or so households that subscribe to cable and other pay TV services, but it points to a worrying trend for distributors, which are seeing their subscriber numbers slowly eroding. Now It’s a Trend: 119K More Cords Cut in Q3 (Nov 2010)

If someone suggested starting a paper newspaper, they would be laughed at and rightly so. It is a dying business model unless an EMP takes out the electronics. The same could be said for broadcast TV. The internet is the way to go. This - a Ron Paul Roku channel - is still a good idea:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/archive/index.php/t-301019.html?

If nothing else, starve them of their profits. Call your cable or dish provider and cancel (tell them you have a better offer or the bill is too high). A few minute phone call can save a couple hundred dollars:

http://cheapencounters.com/2009/06/08/dish-network-retention/
 
Fox and CNN get half their money from subscriber fees. I won't suggest that boycotts work, but there is a trend that could possibly be accelerated. I am about 9 months Dish free and DO NOT miss it.

If nothing else, starve them of their profits.

I contacted an advertiser just yesterday after hearing stupidity on the radio that ticked me off, and my wife and I have been cable free for 3+ years now.
 
An open-source news outlet? Anyone can make a "channel" on the outlet and people who's stories are good rise to the front page.
 
Ok.. here you go

Ok, here you go. I know this post is far down in the thread but hear me out how a libertarian would/could take on media:

- Create an objective measure of reporting quality. Some kind of "Objectivity Index" or "Paul Index" (a gift to Ron)
- This index would give a score to a media outlet: newspapers, TV stations, radio stations
- Criteria would include for instance: higher percentage of "opinion pieces" lowers score, relevance of articles (for instance reporting on an article with a high death toll is valued more than an article about an event with a lower death toll), number of sources cited in research.
- Publish the scoring system on wikipedia, along with some scores for major media outlets

The trick is to define a scoring scheme which is simple, elegant and repeatable. It would be wonderful if it could be automated.

Then open the scheme to the public, put it into wikipedia, start scoring newspapers, start popularize it and you might have an objective way of showing media bias. An open and transparent "Moody's, Fitch, S&P" for media quality.

I am sure there is no perfect way to do this... but maybe there is an acceptably good approach which would allow comparisons. Maybe you have some ideas?
 
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Weed already talked about this. The only way is to take the message directly to the people by bypassing the media Reagan style. This means only one thing: donate, so that campaign can put on ads, direct mail, interviews etc.

5:50-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfKYazMhCGo
 
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2 words. Boycott bomb.

Pick an example of media bias each week.
Identify the shows sponsors.
Pick one sponsor to make an example of - avoid dilution
Publicize boycott like we do a money bomb with video evidence of the bias.
If we can create a meme of this sponsors may pressure media to back off our Guy.
 
Although a bit late I'm delighted to see this thread. The corporate media propaganda machine is our biggest enemy and if we don't primarily focus in figuring out how to defeat it, nothing will ever change.

I don't know how to do it, but I do know this:
1. it can't be by giving them more money or credibility
2. it can't be by pressuring or controlling them
3. it can't be by competing with them in the same media


We have to develop our own propaganda, a clear message designed to break through the brainwashed minds of the masses and find an effective way of spreading it outside of the corporate media propaganda machine. Btw I'm calling it corporate media because I will not, not for a second longer, give them anymore legitimacy than they already don't have. It's not mainstream, it's corporate. I already vowed to never listen to Beck, Hannity, or whoever else who want's to pretend to be friends with our ideas some of the time in order to attract a broader audience only to later turn against those very same ideas, not to mention all the other shills. You are either 100% on board with freedom or I will ignore you is my rule.

Lastly I want to say that it's not impossible to defeat the corporate media propaganda machine, especially when the campaign received over $20mil already. If people who believe in our ideas are able to muster up that kind of money, nothing is impossible. Mind you the super brochures are being funded completely separately and on a voluntary basis and it's ideas like the super brochure that we need to really look into.

As long as the real problem is crystal clear I have no doubt we can find a solution, I just hope that this defeat has shown you that the corporate media is the real nr. 1 problem and that everyone will work together in trying to solve it.
 
BLACK THEM OUT!!!.

We should just start by blocking their cameras at every event with signs mentioning their treason. Make it so all the MSM shills cannot even do a report on this election.

That's an interesting idea.
 
I agree, I just have no idea where to begin.

I mentioned on this board before... Ron Paul or reps... should expose them individually and collectively through ads... Like Gloria Borgia with CNN (however you spell her name), who's husband makes his living off of defense contracts... has been raping Paul for weeks. These people are not journalists, they are their own special interest group that works 24/7 to brain wash people to vote for their personal interests. That needs to be exposed...

And information such as this:

The US State Dept funds a group called the FDD – Foundation for Defense of Democracies. This is a neocon think-tank where the Ron Paul attacks are originating. Specifically from a guy named James Kirchick. And guess who’s an advisor at FDD? Newt Gingrich.

Members include: FDD promotes itself as a nonpartisan organization and tries to present a bipartisan face through its leadership. However, Republican Party insiders hold many of its top posts. FDD’s director, Clifford May, is a former writer for the New York Times who once served as director of communications for the Republican National Committee. May was also the editor of the party's official magazine, Rising Tide, a former vice chair of the Republican Jewish Coalition, and is a member of the Committee on the Present Danger. FDD’s board has also been stacked with Republican Party leaders, including the late Jeane Kirkpatrick and Jack Kemp.

As of November 2011, FDD’s “Leadership Council” included several high-profile neoconservative and Republican Party figures. These included Paula Dobriansky, an undersecretary of state during the George W. Bush administration; publisher Steve Forbes; former FBI director Louis Freeh; former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (R-GA); former ambassador Max Kampelman; the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol; Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT); former National Security Adviser Robert McFarlane; and former CIA director James Woolsey.

FDD’s Board of Directors has had a similar makeup. As of late 2011, members included the Republican House Majority Leader Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), religious right figure Gary Bauer, conservative Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer, Reagan-era Pentagon official Richard Perle, and the Wall Street Journal’s Bret Stephens.
 
The way to take them down is to investigate them. Dig up all the dirt we can on the whole lot of them.

Then let everyone know what pieces of shit they are.
 
Once the older generation dies off the MSM will be powerless
Then you will be old and back to square one.

First, you must correctly identify the enemy. Mainstream media is only the front line, and they are well funded by the enemy.
 
Read. My. Lips.

Instead of trying to figure out how to "get" the media, figure out to be delegates and WIN the GOP nomination for Ron Paul!

http://ronpauldelegates.wordpress.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RonPaulDelegates2012

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This of course.

But in our spare time....

By anticipating what the MSM will say, by anticipating what TPTB need them to say, one can easily amaze and astound -stimulating other folks who may need an extra nudge or two with waking the hell up.

These forums are a great resource for doing that.

Example: When the first breath of the MSM marginalizing an Iowa Paul win came to be I shared it with others and laughed as more than a few headlines took that same route.

The "amazing" prediction came from me, a known Paul supporter. The Paul/Liberty supporter with "special powers" was proved right time and time again.

I don't see myself starting a media empire anytime soon and RPF's and this Liberty organism that I'm a part of are at my disposal 24-7 and on the cheap.

Anyone remember the "What you will now see from the media" RPF thread when Obama got crowned? A classic.

Which RPF'r was that? I want to say Conza88 or was it someone else?:confused:

On predictability:

“Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.”

"“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself,
you will succumb in every battle”

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Yes I'm super cereal, here's the Knife to drive it home.

 
Super brochures against the media and digging up dirt on many of their reporters like Gloria Borger is very intruiging.

Imagine this, they try to paint Ron Paul a racist but no one listens to them in the voting states anymore cause now the people are disgusted by the media personalities. If we had a millionaire that wanted to back this up or somehow could get tens of thousands of dollars this idea would seem very hopeful :]

it really is only fair. Blowback as they say. Also reporters who don't constantly rip on Ron Paul could get some leeway maybe. For example Wolf Blitzer now at least corrects reporters on non interventionslism but some of them are just plain evil and its blatantly obvious the media follows a script on the storylines of the day or the week
 
Do like what Larry Flynt did in the late 90s when the Republicans were going after Clinton.

He put up $50,000 for any dirt on Republicans who were having affairs. This outted Newt.

We put up a prize for dirt on a select few media reporters and out them.
 
Totally agree.

Longterm, we need a Liberty television channel, but that does not help us now. We do not have enough allies in the media at this time.

How can we prove the hypocrasy of media to those who are brainwashed? This will require many Jon Stewarts. :)

What is their Achilles heel?
 
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1 - Don't use the same media to attack the media. You'll just give them money. Instead, use alternative ways to reach people.

2 - We need to expose them in details. That means: it can't be done in five minutes, we need a full documentary. Of course, we also need short clips to spread on the internet. But, when reaching people outside the internet, we must give the whole package, all the information needed to expose media bias agains everyone who is not a puppet of the establishment (we need to use a catch phrase like this: "if you are not a puppet of the establishment etc.", so people may identify themselves with Paul).

3 - We need a high quality work. That doesn't mean, however, a Hollywood quality production. You need the quality of the "I like Ron Paul except on foreign policy". Just that.

4 - Use the Super Brochure idea. Send DVDs to people in the early states (we can still do this, if we produce a good documentary quickly -- so, let's join our efforts). We don't need to do this nationally right away. We go national as the primaries/caucuses go national. That means we don't need tons of money.

5 - The message should engage people, make them want to expose the media. Then, at the end, ask the viewer to donate, to help spread the message. (For instance, if 10% of the people who gets the DVD donate, say, 50 dollars, it pays the whole project.)

6 - The message should accomplish this: i) show the manipulation of the media, how the media think they are the ones to decide the political process; ii) expose its connections with the military industrial complex, with the banking industry etc.; iii) prove that the "journalists" are not unbiased (use, for instance, the Gloria Borger case); iv) show how they repeat time after time the same distortions; v) expose their techniques (spiral of silence, use of fear etc. etc.); vi) while correcting the distortions, already educate people about the real Ron Paul ideas.

7 - Connect this to the growing Police State in America. V for Vendetta has a way of doing this.

8 - Together with the DVD, send a specific Super Brochure, to make people willing to watch the DVD.


The thing is: this will not only expose the media, but create hard supporters. And hard supporters can get a lot of soft supporters. A hard supporter can convince his friends and family to watch the DVD and to inform themselves about the real Ron Paul.

It's be easier to get hard supporters if we sent not only a DVD exposing the media, but also a DVD promoting Ron Paul: his economics, his foreign policy, denouncing the growing Police State in America.

All of this (2 DVDs + Brochure + distribution) may cost 3 dollars for "target". So, we must a delivery plan.

Someone can say: "Isn't that too expensive?". The answer is: no! Because, if 6% of the "targets" decide to donate only 50 dollars to help, then the project is paid entirely by itself. That's the key: to engage people to donate and help in the process.

Now, look at the effectiveness of this. Suppose we can send it to 1 million people in early states (we still have time, if we are quick). Suppose 25% will look at this. Suppose, also, you can get sympathy of at least 60% of the viewers and that 10% of the "targets" become strong supporters. Then, you have 250K viewers, with 150K supporting you (at least a soft support) and may get 100K real supporters. As we all know, strong support means a lot of soft support.

(And, remember, once you send the DVDs to a home, more than one person can see it.)
 
I didn't read the full thread but my 2 cents is to link the media with its pro-war propaganda. The electorate is against these wars but how do we keep getting into them? Why the MSM terrifies everyone and repeats lies over and over until people just start repeating them. It seems like that whenever RP starts to talk about propaganda with journalists they start to get visibly uncomfortable. We have admitted examples of self-censorship, Dan Rather after 9/11, and blatant censorship. I'm not sure how we spread the message but I think this is key to undermining the MSM's credibility.
 
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