THE MEDIA IS DRIVING A WEDGE BETWEEN RON PAUL & THE REPUBLICAN BASE - Read This!

[Bossobass]

Dude, get over yourself already. We ignored the last thread. It wasn't an oversight. There is no one "the media" out there with a single malicious "purpose" etc. The bigger threat to the success of Dr. Paul's campaign is the sophmoric conspiracy-laden insecurities of some supporters. If you want to help, cut the crap already. Enough of the baseless, unsubtantiated and easily refutable delusions already.

Dr. Paul IS a libertarian. He never gave up his life-time membership in the LP.
Many non-Republicans DO support him.
I can name a media source that supports him, oh wait, he's not been assimilated into the borg...

I'm solidly with Bradley here. The grossly shrunken Republican base doesn't have enough votes to elect dog catcher, especially when spread out over 5 candidates who all have the indentical platform.

By publishing articles that show Ron's cross over ability, they actually encourage Libertarians, Democrats, non-voters and first time voters to take a look at him and his platform.

Use the positives, ignore the negatives. We've successfully turned the GOP's attempts to denegrate and exclude Ron from the process into huge gains in numbers of supporters and donators.

Rudy's attacks at the second debate. Anuzis' attempt to exclude Ron from all subsequent debates. Failor's attempt to exclude Ron as having no credibility at the Iowa Forum. Beltram's attempt to bar the doors against Ron in Spartanburg, SC. The GOP's stacking of the audience to boo Ron at the Fla debate...all have been turned around and made into huge gains for Ron's campaign.

Positive thinking. Positive actions. Positive results.

Bosso

 

[James R]

Dude, get over yourself already. We ignored the last thread. It wasn't an oversight. There is no one "the media" out there with a single malicious "purpose" etc. The bigger threat to the success of Dr. Paul's campaign is the sophmoric conspiracy-laden insecurities of some supporters. If you want to help, cut the crap already. Enough of the baseless, unsubtantiated and easily refutable delusions already.

Dr. Paul IS a libertarian. He never gave up his life-time membership in the LP.
Many non-Republicans DO support him.
I can name a media source that supports him, oh wait, he's not been assimilated into the borg...

Disagreed. Why don't we have the media saying Rudi Guiliani "is really a Democrat running as a Republican". Because they are stupid as bricks and don't know what they are doing. The media must be set straight, and we must use FACT ATTACKS to do this thing correctly. We must get a side-by-side Repbulican-ness analysis, then shove it in the medias face, and finally threaten to SUE THEM if they ignore it. Furthermore, we must actually sue them at least one time when they report bad facts and claim that Dr. Paul "is not a Republican".

The law protects us from libel and slander, and we should use this to our advantage. If media states that "Dr. Paul is not a Republican" that is provably wrong in court. The harm from making that statement can also be proven. I don't understand why a campaign with 5 million in the bank would let them get away with it.

 

[Proemio]

Disagreed. Why don't we have the media saying Rudi Guiliani "is really a Democrat running as a Republican". Because they are stupid as bricks and don't know what they are doing. The media must be set straight, and we must use FACT ATTACKS to do this thing correctly. We must get a side-by-side Repbulican-ness analysis, then shove it in the medias face, and finally threaten to SUE THEM if they ignore it. Furthermore, we must actually sue them at least one time when they report bad facts and claim that Dr. Paul "is not a Republican".

The law protects us from libel and slander, and we should use this to our advantage. If media states that "Dr. Paul is not a Republican" that is provably wrong in court. The harm from making that statement can also be proven. I don't understand why a campaign with 5 million in the bank would let them get away with it.

Agreed - except that TheCourts have famously decided that TheMedia is NOT required to abide by the truth (FOX case). That leaves the even more effective alternatives; letting them know "we know", and exposing their methotoligy to light, thus gradually blunting their effectiveness.

 

[speciallyblend]

No need for the media to drive a wedge.THE GOP is doing a fine job of driving the wedge themselves as they pretty much guarantee a loss by the GOP in the general election ,Great Job GOP your doing a fine job of throwing the next election,keep up the great work sigh

 

[ARealConservative]

Dude, get over yourself already. We ignored the last thread. It wasn't an oversight. There is no one "the media" out there with a single malicious "purpose" etc. The bigger threat to the success of Dr. Paul's campaign is the sophmoric conspiracy-laden insecurities of some supporters. If you want to help, cut the crap already. Enough of the baseless, unsubtantiated and easily refutable delusions already.

Dr. Paul IS a libertarian. He never gave up his life-time membership in the LP.
Many non-Republicans DO support him.
I can name a media source that supports him, oh wait, he's not been assimilated into the borg...

Same back at you.

Most conservatives readily agree with a liberal media bias. I certainly do.

Maybe you should consider changing your screen name to Walter Duranty?

 

[RTsquared]

Interesting thought...

The law protects us from libel and slander, and we should use this to our advantage. If media states that "Dr. Paul is not a Republican" that is provably wrong in court. The harm from making that statement can also be proven. I don't understand why a campaign with 5 million in the bank would let them get away with it.

A lawsuit against the MSM would make for some great headlines. I'm not 100% sure how effective it would be as far as collecting damages or getting apologies, but it would show that the Paul campaign was serious.

Of course, the media will just start saying that "Dr. Paul is not a real Republican" instead, because that's much more nebulous.

 

[Gimme Some Truth]

Quit worrying about the media.

If they make incorrect statements like "isolationist" then correct them. If they mention he was/is a libertarian then what can you do? he was/is a libertarian / conservative

I agree with Bradley really. Stop getting into hysterics at the tiniest little thing. Whilst it is plainly obvious that some outlets/programs intentionally try to marginalize Ron Paul , alot of it is just crap reporting. Since the Nov 5th Iv seen plenty of incorrect statements about the numbers and records. It isnt always some extravagant conspiracy you know(thinking it is and raising the roof at every little thing hurts our credibility tbh) . Alot of the media just suck at their jobs. Its not hard to understand since real journalists are continuously replaced with models and/or PR staffers.

 

[ladyliberty]

I would like to make a handout that puts Reagans platform next to Ron's I know 2nd amendment and smaller government reganomics etc. I know many Republicans really look to the most Regan like candidate. Also takes the age factor away.. Reagan was 70

I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA! Republicans loved and respected Ronald Reagan, but after 20 years of the Bush/Clinton/Bush hijacking of our democracy - they have forgotten what the word Republican means!!!

I say we push Ronald Reagan as the greatest President that ever was (I will give the man his dues - he was indeed an awesome president!) and then associate him with Ron Paul every chance we get.

The video of Ronald Reagan's speech from 1965 is a prime example - Ron Paul says the very exact same things. Ron Paul worked in Washington under Ronald Reagan and Reagan had a lot of respect for him and I do believe the feeling was mutual.

 

[Ninja Homer]

I made a thread about this yesterday but I think most people missed my point (thread here). Here is my point:

Everything the media has done to this point (“He’s a Libertarian”, “Non-Republicans support him”, “Will you support the Republican nominee? No?”) has been purposefully and maliciously DESIGNED by the buttholes in power to drive a wedge between Ron Paul and the Republican base. WE MUST FIX THIS AT ALL COSTS!!! IMHO our #1 focus should be to re-connect with the Republican Base.

I am a Ron Paul Republican!!

I used to think that the media was intentionally doing this as well. I have come to the conclusion, especially with all the coverage Ron Paul has received this week, that people in the media are just stupid... or at the least, they aren't journalists. They are actors, or at the most, sensationalists.

The media is just following the same formula they have always been following for presidential elections. Look at the polls, then report on who is at the top of the polls. If somebody is polling high, then a majority of their viewers must like that person, so if they report on that person, then they will get more viewers, right? It makes sense from their perspective.

The problem is, they haven't yet realized that the polls they look at are missing out on a gigantic portion of Ron Paul's demographic. The poll calling lists are from people who voted in the last Republican presidential primaries. It has been brought up on these forums before that only something like 6.5% of registered Republicans voted in the last primaries... most of them pro-war hardcore Bush supporters. I think it's amazing that Ron Paul is polling as high as he is among that demographic. These polls aren't done this way to intentionally leave out Ron Paul, that's just the way they've always been done.

This week, with Ron Paul setting fundraising records, the media was caught off guard. They've given Ron Paul a lot of air time because of it. I think they're starting to realize that their methods for deciding who to cover in this race are flawed. They're starting to realize that Ron Paul's support isn't just some people on the Internet, and it is no longer something to joke about. They're starting to do some actual research on Ron Paul and his support. Things are turning around in the media, and they are starting to see that Ron Paul actually is a front runner.

 

[Suzu]

Harsh words.

I'm very surprised you don't see MSM manipulation as a legitimate issue. I'm actually going to make my next video specifically about this now Bradley

Are you here to prove your point, or to help get Ron Paul elected?

 

[Suzu]

Reagan was 70

Talking point: With age comes wisdom. The older the candidate, the better. And RP is in fine condition. He can work circles around men half his age.

 

[syborius]

Hmmm

Dude, get over yourself already. We ignored the last thread. It wasn't an oversight. There is no one "the media" out there with a single malicious "purpose" etc. The bigger threat to the success of Dr. Paul's campaign is the sophmoric conspiracy-laden insecurities of some supporters. If you want to help, cut the crap already. Enough of the baseless, unsubtantiated and easily refutable delusions already.

Dr. Paul IS a libertarian. He never gave up his life-time membership in the LP.
Many non-Republicans DO support him.
I can name a media source that supports him, oh wait, he's not been assimilated into the borg...

I am not so certain when each outlet parrots the other word for word in their interview tactics with Ron Paul, Bradley DC!

 

[James R]

Agreed - except that TheCourts have famously decided that TheMedia is NOT required to abide by the truth (FOX case). That leaves the even more effective alternatives; letting them know "we know", and exposing their methotoligy to light, thus gradually blunting their effectiveness.

True, but an actual lawsuit could still have the networks scrambling like cockroaches on their choice to label Ron Paul a non-Republican.

 

[fj45lvr]

RON needs to TRUMP the financial message of SPENDING....

this is like a dagger to the HYPOCRITES and the base will respect him for the TRUTH.


Pull the PLUG on BIG gov.

 

[Lord Xar]

In all the interviews I have seen, Ron Paul has always said "I am a Republican with libertarian leanings.." They just don't get it.

I DO BELIEVE RON PAUL ONCE AND FOR ALL SAY "I AM A REPUBLICAN. THATS IT! END OF STORY"

 

[HarryTuttle]

I'd say, pick your battles. If you want NO media coverage whatsoever, then suing is a good idea. I forget who said it, but the quote goes something like "I don't care if they say bad things about me, as long as they are TALKING about me"...seems apropos. Many people have not heard Ron Paul's name...ever. Even if the media is painting a negative picture of him, next time someone sees or hears his name they will be curious and at least pay attention: in a debate, in a political add, whatever, just to see what the hullabaloo is about. Use psychology to our advantage.

 

[PennCustom4RP]

In all the interviews I have seen, Ron Paul has always said "I am a Republican with libertarian leanings.." They just don't get it.

I DO BELIEVE RON PAUL ONCE AND FOR ALL SAY "I AM A REPUBLICAN. THATS IT! END OF STORY"

To sum up:

'I am a Republican (because this is the party I associate with, and have been elected to office as, because otherwise I would never have been allowed to participate in any debates or run for office) with Libertarian leanings'
They do get it.

I DO BELIEVE RON PAUL ONCE AND FOR ALL SAY " I AM A REPUBLICAN(my voter registration says so). THATS IT! END OF STORY"

Call it anti-neocon, call it true conservative Republican, whatever. I don't feel the Libertarian tag hurts RP in any way, it only separates him from the neocon posers polluting the GOP base, and informs the American people of what the party used to be and should be.
The MSM could be doing him a service with the Libertarian tag.

 

[DjLoTi]

Dr. Paul IS a libertarian.

Ok.. so is he a libertarian or a republican? Because everyone calls him a libertarian on the media, however he's been a Republican for 10 terms in congress and is now running as a republican for president.

Does he just run as a republican so he actually has a chance to win, or is he actually a republican? Am I missing something here?

 

[American]

Someone needs to blog a point blank piece about this and we need to digg it and repost it without mercy. Drive up google rankings etc....

 

[LinearChaos]

I am republican in Name alone. Personally, my stomach has hurt ever since I changed parties. The primary can't come soon enough for me.

I don't think you're alone in this regard

Hang tough chin up, tiger