The Libertarian Case AGAINST Mandatory GMO Labeling

[GunnyFreedom]

What my post-history actually shows is:

For someone who doesn't really care about me, "quietly watching me for over a year" is a funny way to go about it. Are you sure that you understand the meaning of the worlds "I don't really care about you?"

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

For someone who doesn't really care about me, "quietly watching me for over a year" is a funny way to go about it.

Whom are you quoting? Post a link to where I typed that, or it never happened.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

As a result, we have been quietly monitoring the activities of these people for over a year. Well, I have been motivated to research this threat over the past year or so.

h xxp://northcarolinaconservative.net/special-report-unmasking-hidden-agendas/

 

[sailingaway]

Great speech. But there is a simple, constitutional, libertarian solution. Strip the patent office of the authority to grant patents to genes. I'm not just talking about the current debate over patents on discovered genes. I'm also talking about patents on created genes. As genes have been around since creation, they out to be considered "open source" and like the "open source" license model, any derivation should be considered open source as well. In the "good old days" when people created hybrids from cross pollination, while they could obtain copyright and trademark on their discoveries, they didn't obtain patent rights. I don't want to just tinker with the Monsanto business model by requiring labelling. I want to destroy it by taking away their patents. That solution includes a net increase in freedom for everyone.

Edit: I love at the end how you plugged killing the house bill that would put all plants under the control of some unelected state board! We've got to go beyond just making speeches to advocating direct action.

I absolutely agree that is the first result that is most important, as well as ending the captive regulatory agencies that shouldn't exist at the federal level at all. but while they ARE doing this, I do think self defense through state action is fair.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

http://northcarolinaconservative.net/special-report-unmasking-hidden-agendas/

Why do you attribute that link to me?

 

[jmdrake]

I absolutely agree that is the first result that is most important, as well as ending the captive regulatory agencies that shouldn't exist at the federal level at all. but while they ARE doing this, I do think self defense through state action is fair.

But of course. The problem is that the federal government pre-empted California's attempt to do that. So the fight has to be won at the federal level. The question is which fight to fight at the federal level? The required GMO labelling fight, or the get rid of gene patents altogether, at least for food, fight? If Rand proposed a bill to get rid of gene patents for food he would become an instant hero to the organic movement and least on that point. The threats lawsuits against farmers from Monsanto after their crops were assaulted through genetic pollution by Monsanto would cease. And Monsanto would have to come up with a new business model and that alone would mean less "frankenfood". Win/win. And it probably wouldn't pass, but at least those on the left and the right who care about this issue would properly know who to target.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Someone please give jmdrake some rep for me. I find myself agreeing with many aspects of his/her recent revelations and so must apparently spread some rep around before giving more. Thanks.

 

[Carlybee]

Who are the people enabling the ex directors? Who are the people knowingly and voluntary buying Monsanto-derived products, like gasoline?

I've already discussed it earlier and since you are a douchebag I'm not repeating it because you didn't catch it the first time

 

[cajuncocoa]

I've already discussed it earlier and since you are a douchebag I'm not repeating it because you didn't catch it the first time

douchebag is banned.

 

[Carlybee]

douchebag is banned.

ha..didn't notice ..good!

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Again, I don't support mandatory labeling and most others here don't either. I don't know what you're talking about. I simply don't understand the outrage about adding a couple of words to an already mandated label. It's irrelevant, pointless and obfuscates the real issue of fascism in the food industry. But I'll bite and answer your question and say no. Monsanto's stolen profits are more than enough to cover the cost.

Advocating that "The Government Do Something" to supposedly fix the problem is wrong-headed and ludicrous. The government created the problem! An additional govt measure will not solve it! Any effort spent lobbying or advocating that the govt please help you by tweaking their labeling laws is a counter-productive effort. It's inconsistent with the rest of our liberty message. There's a reason Ron Paul has never advocated the idea. "What we need to do is pass a law to force the evil food industry to label all genetically modified products as GMO." Can you imagine him saying that? It would never happen. Consistency, men! That's the bedrock! No compromises for expediency's sake.