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What do we know so far?
1) Trump lied when he said he revoked Epstein's membership as Epstein was never a member.
2) Trump knew about the girls being trafficked while it was happening.
3) Trump maintained a friendship with Epstein after knowing he was a pedophile.
4) Epstein privately alleged that Epstein spent "hours" with one of the girls though he didn't say what Trump did.
5) Epstein and writer Michael Wolf privately discussed what campaign advice to give Donald Trump if Trump's relationship with Epstein ever became an issue in 2016.
6) Epstein claimed to have continued influence with Trump into the first Trump administration.
7) The Prince Andrew photo is authentic. (This was probably leaked to the royal family earlier which explains why the finally stripped him of his title and kicked him out of his castle.)
Now, the ardent Trump defenders and water carriers will tell you "That doesn't prove Trump raped any of Epstein's sex slaves." That's a straw man argument. Nobody ever claimed that it did. But the fake argument made by the Trump water carriers that Trump is some kind of "hero" in this story is fully undermined as a lie. Also note that while the rest of the world is talking about how Trump is implicated, FauxNews only is talking about Prince Andrew. Trump defenders will also say "But can you trust Jeffrey Epstein?" Well they have put their trust in Epstein's girlfriend / convict who has every reason to lie to stay in her "club fed" prison. Meanwhile Epstein's emails were off the record so what reason would he have had to lie then? Also this proves Elon Musk's tweet that "Trump's name is in the Epstein files" to be 100% accurate! His name clearly is in there. That said, under Florida law if Trump knew that Epstein was trafficking minors and did nothing, under Florida and federal law that by itself is not a crime. (I just did the analysis to be sure). Florida's "mandatory reporting" law only applies to child abuse with the abuser being narrowly defined as abuse by:
www.bbc.com
www.foxnews.com
1) Trump lied when he said he revoked Epstein's membership as Epstein was never a member.
2) Trump knew about the girls being trafficked while it was happening.
3) Trump maintained a friendship with Epstein after knowing he was a pedophile.
4) Epstein privately alleged that Epstein spent "hours" with one of the girls though he didn't say what Trump did.
5) Epstein and writer Michael Wolf privately discussed what campaign advice to give Donald Trump if Trump's relationship with Epstein ever became an issue in 2016.
6) Epstein claimed to have continued influence with Trump into the first Trump administration.
7) The Prince Andrew photo is authentic. (This was probably leaked to the royal family earlier which explains why the finally stripped him of his title and kicked him out of his castle.)
Now, the ardent Trump defenders and water carriers will tell you "That doesn't prove Trump raped any of Epstein's sex slaves." That's a straw man argument. Nobody ever claimed that it did. But the fake argument made by the Trump water carriers that Trump is some kind of "hero" in this story is fully undermined as a lie. Also note that while the rest of the world is talking about how Trump is implicated, FauxNews only is talking about Prince Andrew. Trump defenders will also say "But can you trust Jeffrey Epstein?" Well they have put their trust in Epstein's girlfriend / convict who has every reason to lie to stay in her "club fed" prison. Meanwhile Epstein's emails were off the record so what reason would he have had to lie then? Also this proves Elon Musk's tweet that "Trump's name is in the Epstein files" to be 100% accurate! His name clearly is in there. That said, under Florida law if Trump knew that Epstein was trafficking minors and did nothing, under Florida and federal law that by itself is not a crime. (I just did the analysis to be sure). Florida's "mandatory reporting" law only applies to child abuse with the abuser being narrowly defined as abuse by:
- a parent
- legal custodian
- caregiver
- or “other person responsible for the child’s welfare”
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