The Key to Sidestepping the Trap: Charlie Kirk’s Death Exposed the Biggest Scam in History

[ClaytonB]

[SPLIT FROM: RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah]

 

[acptulsa]

It's more than just well worth the listen. It's the key to unlocking the America that we lost.

 

[ClaytonB]

It's more than just well worth the listen. It's the key to unlocking the America that we lost.

I just had an epiphany while watching this:

If you truly believe that there are more of us (normal, decent, sane people) than there are of them (power-worshiping psychos), then you should at least be open to the idea of mass popular gun-ownership. The more vehemently you are opposed to widespread gun ownership, the more this says about how you really see society. If you think that you are a tiny sane minority in an ocean of crazies, then gun control makes perfect sense. But this also shows that you are deluded by the PSYOP, whose primary mission is to convince you that your neighbor is your sworn enemy.

As Chase says, this has got to stop. If we are going to have a country at all, we have to stop listening to the psychos, we have to stop falling for the outrage-bait. Assuming Tyler Robinson actually fired the bullet, he is himself completely deluded by the PSYOP. A 22-year-old who has barely learned how to drive a car is in no position to lecture all 350 million of us -- including war veterans, hostage rescue, bluewater rescue, alpine rescue, farmhands, welders, computer engineers, and on and on -- about "the way it really is". What does a snot-nosed dropout from Utah know about "everything", from where has he fetched this limitless well of wisdom from which he is going to lecture the rest of us at the end of a 30-06?? It's insanity-incarnate. And giving into the rage-bait is the biggest blunder of all. This is an outrageous crime, but I am not *outraged*. I'm not about to turn out into the street with my rifle, bayonet-affixed. The puppet-masters try to use the cartoonish to elicit the cartoonish. Don't give into the rage-bait.

And to extend Chase's analysis, this is ultimately not just PSYOPs.... it's spiritual warfare. Spiritual warfare is not waged against each other. It's waged within, and it is waged against the wickedness in the heavenly realms (Eph. 6:12), by God's power. The indoc process for that war is repentance, faith, salvation, baptism and joining the body of Christ. It's boring. It's "Sunday School". Maybe it feels a bit trite or outdated. But it's reality. It's Truth. And that is what makes all the difference versus all the counterfeits. If you've finally had it with the way things are going in this country, if you're ready to fight back for real, run to the Cross...

 

[acptulsa]

If you truly believe that there are more of us (normal, decent, sane people) than there are of them (power-worshiping psychos), then you should at least be open to the idea of mass popular gun-ownership. The more vehemently you are opposed to widespread gun ownership, the more this says about how you really see society. If you think that you are a tiny sane minority in an ocean of crazies, then gun control makes perfect sense.

It's worse than that. Most gun-grabbers are lefties who know they have zero impulse control, and don't trust themselves with a gun because they know if they start carrying one, they'll have damned good reason to hate themselves in the morning. Problem is, whereas that group once realized that they had neighbors who could be trusted with them, now they're all brainwashed into thinking that's not true. Now they think government employees can be trusted with them.

 

[ClaytonB]

It's worse than that. Most gun-grabbers are lefties who know they have zero impulse control, and don't trust themselves with a gun because they know if they start carrying one, they'll have damned good reason to hate themselves in the morning. Problem is, whereas that group once realized that they had neighbors who could be trusted with them, now they're all brainwashed into thinking that's not true. Now they think government employees can be trusted with them.

I absolutely agree. I think a lot of leftists want guns banned for the same reason a supermodel with no impulse-control might wish all candies were banned. Just one bite stands between her and complete destruction of the rest of her life...

 

[CaptUSA]

Not only worth the listen, but probably deserves its own thread so we don't clutter up this one any more.

 

[ClaytonB]

Not only worth the listen, but probably deserves its own thread so we don't clutter up this one any more.

Feel free to cross-post in a fresh thread

 

[CaptUSA]

Feel free to cross-post in a fresh thread

I asked the mods to split.

 

[acptulsa]

A tip of the fedora to ClaytonB for finding this gem.

 

[CaptUSA]

Thanks, Tulsa.

I agree with almost everything in that video, but there are a few issues...

First, he talks about how they use the media to paint your enemies as good versus evil, but then he says we're in a fight between good and evil. I get what he's trying to say, but there's a contradiction in terms. Also, if you believe those on the other side are under the spell of this evil, then you're right back where you started.

Ultimately, I think he's close to the point that the battle has never been left/right, but freedom vs. control.

 

[acptulsa]

You know, that almost sounds sane. Until I look back through the threads and see those who are willing to demean other pro-liberty folks because they don't match their own purity tests.

You'd think if you were looking for allies, you'd start with... I don't know... Your allies?

In order to sidestep the trap they've set for us we have to rip our own heads out of the paradigm. We cannot be on the side of one of their controlled, preselected candidates or the other, no matter how expedient the reasons seem at the time. Sometimes that's not a gentle process. Kind, soothing consensus has simply not accomplished that.

You call that demeaning. I call it deprogramming. Trump is one of them, and he's running the football towards their goal. I have no intention of apologizing for pointing that out in 2016, 2020 or 2024. I freely admitted each time that Clinton, Biden and Harris were even worse.

If we're going to have a revolution, we have to learn to ignore the bandwagons they set up for us, no matter how horrible the other one is. We have to build our own bandwagon. This is pure and simple truth I'm telling you. The fact that I rudely say to someone, those sweets will kill you, doesn't mean I don't care. Quite the opposite.

Quick quiz: What's that definition of insanity, again? Listen to Hughes again and think about how we got bent over for Trump to do what he's doing.

 

[acptulsa]

First, he talks about how they use the media to paint your enemies as good versus evil, but then he says we're in a fight between good and evil. I get what he's trying to say, but there's a contradiction in terms. Also, if you believe those on the other side are under the spell of this evil, then you're right back where you started.

Yes, clearly you have a point. The key here is proper threat assessment.

Yes, there are dangerous schizophrenics running around loose. Yes, Democrats encourage rioting, intentionally or not. Yes, these things are evil. But the Palantir surveillance state and the Trumpcoin quasi-CBDC and the new fascination in those circles with Chinese "social credit" bull are one hell of a lot more dangerous. These demons and their hired henchman are not only more numerous than scizos, they have the power of money. They can buy airtime. They can buy cops.

Threat assessment. I was once asked by a Left Coastie how I could deal with the fear of tornados. I said, an earthquake or a hurricane are like a whole army come to town. A tornado is like a guy with a knife. If you aren't directly in his path, you're just fine. Inviting Trump and J.D. "Palantir" Vance into power is summoning the hurricane in hopes of preventing the tornado.

THAT is what Ben Franklin meant by, those who trade liberty for security get neither.

 

[TheTexan]

Any time anyone says that the real enemy are the ones that are in power, I think of the below quote.

The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

They are willing servants of the people in power. Whether they are the "real enemy" or not, they're gonna be the ones holding the guns against us.

 

[acptulsa]

They are willing servants of the people in power. Whether they are the "real enemy" or not, they're gonna be the ones holding the guns against us.

That was a great quote from the movie. You were doing a great job of putting your finger on the problem. But then you went and fell back into your brainwashing.

Those people are most definitely not the ones stabbing us from behind. The politicians and oligarchs and Zionists are doing that. Those people you mentioned, unless they can be made to see which side of their own bread holds the butter, are the ones sitting across the train aisle, looking out the window, pretending not to notice.

 

[CaptUSA]

In order to sidestep the trap they've set for us we have to rip our own heads out of the paradigm. We cannot be on the side of one of their controlled, preselected candidates or the other, no matter how expedient the reasons seem at the time. Sometimes that's not a gentle process. Kind, soothing consensus has simply not accomplished that.

You call that demeaning. I call it deprogramming. Trump is one of them, and he's running the football towards their goal. I have no intention of apologizing for pointing that out in 2016, 2020 or 2024. I freely admitted each time that Clinton, Biden and Harris were even worse.

Oh, now you're stepping into the political lane again.

Once again, some of us made the decision that we were either going to have Harris or Trump and made our decisions accordingly. It was a repudiation of the current administration - not an endorsement of the next one - no matter how much you want to paint it that way. Kinda like the populist movement in Nepal - they want to remove the corrupt leaders, regardless of what comes next.

If we're going to have a revolution, we have to learn to ignore the bandwagons they set up for us, no matter how horrible the other one is. We have to build our own bandwagon.

Correct. But let's not forget that the last administration was cracking down on the platforms that allow free speech. The doors were closing. This administration has a ton of faults (which we all knew going in), but at least the doors are open, for now.

Quick quiz: What's that definition of insanity, again? Listen to Hughes again and think about how we got bent over for Trump to do what he's doing.

Hmmm... So I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 or 2020. Pretty sure lots of us didn't operate in that insanity mode. There was a rational consideration to be made.

Regardless of that, Hughes' point wasn't about politics, but rather social dynamics. Recognizing when we, ourselves, are being manipulated. They split us into left/right, black/white, hetero/homo... And some want to split us even further into good libertarians/ fake libertarians.

 

[TheTexan]

Those people are most definitely not the ones stabbing us from behind. The politicians and oligarchs and Zionists are doing that. Those people you mentioned, unless they can be made to see which side of their own bread holds the butter, are the ones sitting across the train aisle, looking out the window, pretending not to notice.

I guess all these people holding the guns were just admiring the view from the train, then?

 

[acptulsa]

Once again, some of us made the decision that we were either going to have Harris or Trump and made our decisions accordingly. It was a repudiation of the current administration - not an endorsement of the next one - no matter how much you want to paint it that way.

And once again we're riding the business as usual train to slavery and hell on earth.

Okay. We didn't put Ron Paul over. We only got a few good ones into Congress, barely enough to replace the refuseniks who retired. We got our tea party and our Libertarian Party infiltrated and neutered by the CIA. When do we try again?

We lit brushfires. We have done a lot of education. They are deliberately destroying all our lives. We had better figure out how to capitalize and keep up the pressure or our children and grandchildren lose everything we were given. We had better find something better than the lesser weevil business as usual that got us here, and sell it.

The time is not 2028, or even 2026. The time is now. How do we ensure we actually have a choice next time? The vid above will help. It's not an action plan. But a first good action plan is pigeonhole people in real life, stick their noses in that video, and discuss.

And even though that lily-livered so-called Texan is skeered of them, there are such things as Democrat voters who can and will get it.

You're the one harping on me in the here and now, aren't you? I'm trying to find a viable path forward.

 

[acptulsa]

I guess all these people holding the guns were just admiring the view from the train, then?

I already said we need to stop focusing on the schizos and concentrate on the evil pricks who can afford to hire henchmen.

If you want to turn a subsequent analogy into a childish attempt to disconnect with this conversation, then you can go talk to Nikcers. The bot will happily accommodate you with that crap.

Your quote from the movie was about, "Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters," and now you're talking about cops, soldiers and henchmen. They might require a different technique, which I won't go into.

 

[TheTexan]

I already said we need to stop focusing on the schizos and concentrate on the evil pricks who can afford to hire henchmen.

Okay and how do you suppose that would play out?

 

[ClaytonB]

Thanks, Tulsa.

I agree with almost everything in that video, but there are a few issues...

First, he talks about how they use the media to paint your enemies as good versus evil, but then he says we're in a fight between good and evil. I get what he's trying to say, but there's a contradiction in terms.

To clarify, there is no actual contradiction here. Here's what he is saying is NOT the case:

[ 50% of US: GOOD] ... [ 50% of US: EVIL ]

Here's what he is saying IS the case:

[ 80+% of US citizens: GOOD (sane/law-abiding) ] ... [ up to 20% of US : RADICALS (partly insane) ] ... [ <1% of US: PURE EVIL ]

The 80% are good, in the civil sense. The 19-ish% are dangerous but potentially convertible into good citizens if they can be talked back from the ledge.

And there is absolutely no negotiating with the "covert elite", the Antifa-style 1% (or less). They are gone to the dark side. They hide themselves behind the illusion that 50% of your neighbors are psychopaths just like them. No matter which 50% (left or right) you fall into. That's how they divide the country, and rule it.