The Iowa College Ad Project and Grassroots Web Portal - Chip-in Included

[parocks]

You just tell the people to enter their geographic data.

How does one supporter communicate with other supporters?

All I know is that most people on ronpaulsocialnetwork do fill out their geographic, and I can contact them. I have friended them, and I now can contact them.

You need to figure out how to get the log in working to your site.

I'd argue to skip this whole project.

 

[D.A.S.]

How does one supporter communicate with other supporters?

All I know is that most people on ronpaulsocialnetwork do fill out their geographic, and I can contact them. I have friended them, and I now can contact them.

You need to figure out how to get the log in working to your site.

I'd argue to skip this whole project.

It was never a point for users on our site to communicate with one another -- Ron Paul Forums is for discussions and such. So is Ron Paul Social Network. Our mission is targeted to location-specific management and dissemination of relevant information. This is why you cannot register without the geolocation data we want to have to be able to sort the users.

Did you receive the email from the site when you submitted registration? Did you follow the link within the email? I tested registration, orenbus tested it, and a bunch of users already logged in, so I think you may be misunderstanding. The password you're asked is the one you SET when you enter that password, so the password field is essentially blank to start.

 

[parocks]

All the kids in college you're trying to reach are going to be home. I'd rather try to reach those kids the days and weeks before the caucus when they're home with their parents. Your ads only say go to this website and give me the data. This website has taken a month to go live, and there's really nothing there. A month. And what benefit other than you gathering data is there for anybody. If there is that benefit, it's really hard to see.

 

[D.A.S.]

All the kids in college you're trying to reach are going to be home. I'd rather try to reach those kids the days and weeks before the caucus when they're home with their parents. Your ads only say go to this website and give me the data. This website has taken a month to go live, and there's really nothing there. A month. And what benefit other than you gathering data is there for anybody. If there is that benefit, it's really hard to see.

Jim, I realize that not everyone will agree with the merits of the project. But I explained our objectives with the site very clearly at the outset, and we've followed with those objectives - there shouldn't be any surprises if you've read the mission statement in the original post.

The donations we received funded the website and advertising in the college newspapers as I detailed, and I'm not intending to re-negotiate the plans for how I'm planning to spend that money now. It's a little late for that.

As far as the month's timeframe is concerned... There was one developer to handle everything - server installation, configuration, website organizational design, coding of the various modules needed for mapping and user search/sort, putting together the website, and other technical things not readily apparent to a normal user. In this time frame, it's not bad at all given just one developer worked on it. I don't know first thing about website development or design, but I had to invest considerable time to learn it on the fly and be able to jump in and help put things together. We're not robots, we have other commitments and our personal lives as well. Given the hurdles we had to overcome both personally and professionally and working as essentially a 2-person team, we're not doing too badly.

It's easier to criticize, Jim. Actually taking on a project like this and trying to meet expectations is a humbling experience when you're in a driver's seat.

 

[lucent]

parocks loves to troll.

 

[parocks]

Yeah, I've been here 4 years longer than you, and I'm the troll.

Listen, people who call things out as sucking aren't trolls. If something sucks, and doesn't work, it's poorly executed.

It isn't wrong of me to point out that something that's been poorly executed probably shouldn't go forward.

And the website just doesn't work. It lacks functionality that seems built in, but intentionally left out. We have profiles, but there seems to be no way to contact another person. The process of logging in involves using a password, but the fancy new signup form, which you've been struggling for a month to implement, doesn't contain that password. You do get a confirmation email, which gives your password as "Your password", and that doesn't log you in. The way to log in involves using "forgot password", and they send you a reset password link. And you click the reset password link, and you enter your password there.

The ronpaulsocialnetwork.com works. You might be able to sign up without certain geograhical information, but that requires one additional step, just like in facebook.

Yours doesn't work, and you can't access the state information without being logged in. The state info contains a bad link. not p2012 rp2012 in the bottom links on the state pages.

I still have a completely functional site, but at this point, ronpaulsocialnetwork will do the job.

You just save someone friending everyone, and telling them that they should put their geographic info on.

 

[parocks]

You know full well that I showed you all the functionalities of my site which I agreed to turn into your thing. It has all the functionality. It's been there, up and running, for the whole time.

And it works.

Your site doesn't work.

Ask someone. What is on the Iowa page?

That'll be your test.

I've seen what's there. There is stuff there.

Can anyone try to look at it? Because it requires being logged in.

You can't use any "it's so hard" excuses.

That Oren guy convinced you that drupal is much better than joomla.

I told you that I didn't feel like modifying a joomla template to your specifications, but that you could find a joomla template designer.

And the first thing you did was ask for a drupal template designer.

Jim, I realize that not everyone will agree with the merits of the project. But I explained our objectives with the site very clearly at the outset, and we've followed with those objectives - there shouldn't be any surprises if you've read the mission statement in the original post.

The donations we received funded the website and advertising in the college newspapers as I detailed, and I'm not intending to re-negotiate the plans for how I'm planning to spend that money now. It's a little late for that.

As far as the month's timeframe is concerned... There was one developer to handle everything - server installation, configuration, website organizational design, coding of the various modules needed for mapping and user search/sort, putting together the website, and other technical things not readily apparent to a normal user. In this time frame, it's not bad at all given just one developer worked on it. I don't know first thing about website development or design, but I had to invest considerable time to learn it on the fly and be able to jump in and help put things together. We're not robots, we have other commitments and our personal lives as well. Given the hurdles we had to overcome both personally and professionally and working as essentially a 2-person team, we're not doing too badly.

It's easier to criticize, Jim. Actually taking on a project like this and trying to meet expectations is a humbling experience when you're in a driver's seat.

http://bachmann2012.com/

 

[Chainspell]

you guys bickering makes me want to create a simple database site of contacts with geolocation.

 

[parocks]

you guys bickering makes me want to create a simple database site of contacts with geolocation.

Can you log in to the site in question?
http://ronpaulcountry.com/splash

the way to fix it would be to put the password on the main page btw.

You would be able to partially settle this disagreement.

I have more than a simple database site of contacts with geolocation btw.
http://webmusicvideo.com/bachmann2012 - see "map"

 

[Chainspell]

Can you log in to the site in question?
http://ronpaulcountry.com/splash

the way to fix it would be to put the password on the main page btw.

You would be able to partially settle this disagreement.

I have more than a simple database site of contacts with geolocation btw.
http://webmusicvideo.com/bachmann2012 - see "map"

in my opinion you don't need anything more than just a simple contacts list with location, it's basically just a directory that's all you need.

 

[parocks]

in my opinion you don't need anything more than just a simple contacts list with location, it's basically just a directory that's all you need.

How did you find the functions of the 2 sites to work for you?

Could you view the Iowa data on ronpaulcountry.com?

 

[Chainspell]

How did you find the functions of the 2 sites to work for you?

Could you view the Iowa data on ronpaulcountry.com?

i think you have to register to view Iowa or whatever.

 

[D.A.S.]

How did you find the functions of the 2 sites to work for you?

Could you view the Iowa data on ronpaulcountry.com?

Chainspell is correct - State pages (Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada) are access-controlled, so you need to be registered and logged in before you can view them.

Is anyone else who has registered with Ron Paul Country having trouble viewing any of the content or actually completing registration with the site? Please let us know immediately if that's the case! You do have to be logged in to be able to view all of the content.

 

[D.A.S.]

you guys bickering makes me want to create a simple database site of contacts with geolocation.

But we *did* create a database of contacts with geolocation. That's why we need people to continue to register. I'm not bickering at all - I am explaining objectives of our project, and some disagreement among the members is certainly normal.

Please continue to register at www.ronpaulcountry.com and let us know of any problems with the site, as well as your thoughts in general.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Why not just link to Ron's website or the RonPaulForums?

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[parocks]

Why not just link to Ron's website or the RonPaulForums?

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Agreed. I'd also argue in favor of http://ronpaulsocialnetwork.com But any site that's working would be fine. I'd argue that if an ad is going in a college newspaper, it should contain content specific to that school.

Has anyone been able to successfully log in to this site?

Has anyone been able to see the iowa materials on this site, which requires logging in?

 

[D.A.S.]

Has anyone been able to successfully log in to this site?

Has anyone been able to see the iowa materials on this site, which requires logging in?

Yep, the users who chose to follow the registration link in the email have been able to successfully log in, and I have site logs to prove it. Those who did not wish to follow the link in the email for whatever reason did not log in, but we still have data for those users and are able to email them. So the site is operating fine. I even did a test registration as a non-admin and after logging in, I can see Iowa, NH, and Nevada pages just fine.

We discussed running an ad advertising Ron's site or Ron Paul Forums instead of Ron Paul Country, but then we would have no tangible benefit, so why even bother running an ad. The whole point of this project is to reach out to a specific cross-section of voters by location with location-specific information, as well as be in a position to help organize meet-ups and help increase turn-out to grassroots events.

What benefits would we have in running ads for Ron Paul Social Network or Ron Paul Forum instead of Ron Paul Country?

I hear many folks here, including yourself, worry about Ron Paul grassroots not being organized well or at all. Well, that's why we decided to put time and effort into this project. Now there's the tool to organize the grassroots. Let's realize its full potential.

 

[parocks]

I have been able to log in. But I really had to work hard to do it.

here's a hint. Put a password on your sign up form.

I personally don't care if you're able to build a email list for yourself. I don't really have any trust that you'd do anything useful with the list, because what you have there is deeply flawed.

So, my question again is, has anyone been able to log in? And that's a question to RPF people who go to the site.

Has anyone been able to see the Iowa materials.

I guarantee that if anyone who has opinions here actually bothers to try the site, they'll find it doesn't work, when the goal is to be able to log in, as it should be.

 

[D.A.S.]

I guarantee that if anyone who has opinions here actually bothers to try the site, they'll find it doesn't work, when the goal is to be able to log in, as it should be.

We'd love for people to go and register and try the site out!

So far we have:

California - 2 (not counting admin acct)
Florida - 1
Maine - 3
Nevada - 2
New Hampshire - 4 (not counting a test acct)
New Jersey - 3 (not counting myself and a test acct)
New York - 3
Ohio - 1
Pennsylvania - 3

As the time goes on, we'll try to make it more user-friendly, so constructive criticism is important at this stage.

 

[69360]

I have been able to log in. But I really had to work hard to do it.

here's a hint. Put a password on your sign up form.

I personally don't care if you're able to build a email list for yourself. I don't really have any trust that you'd do anything useful with the list, because what you have there is deeply flawed.

So, my question again is, has anyone been able to log in? And that's a question to RPF people who go to the site.

Has anyone been able to see the Iowa materials.

I guarantee that if anyone who has opinions here actually bothers to try the site, they'll find it doesn't work, when the goal is to be able to log in, as it should be.

You're wrong. It works for me.