The implications of Ron Paul outlasting the Huckster and McCain are mindboggling

[Thanehand]

You guys, money doesn't matter now. All that has to happen is for one candidate to clearly devour the Super Tuesday states.

Uh, you're joking, right?

Without advertising in all those states, Ron Paul won't stand a chance. In fact, the states he has been doing good in are the states he's advertising heavily in.

Advertising costs money, and last time I checked, February 5th wasn't here yet.

He needs more money NOW.

 

[nightlight]

Romney has the looks and is smart enough that I think he could dance around Paul's message and give RP a serious debate.

Romney looks good at first sight. But, it was perfectly obvious in the last debate that he can't see the forest for the trees. His mind gets tangled up into details and he can't see the larger patterns. His ego further clouds his judgment and bogs him down into petty squabbles. All that was quite evident in the debate and Ron Paul easily exploited these weaknesses making Romney look like a spoiled little brat.

Our good doctor is in a class for himself in the present field, an intellectual, ethical and visionary giant among pigmies.

 

[InLoveWithRon]

McCain and Paul would also take age out of the equation…

That's a good point.

 

[Dave Pedersen]

When most people hear McCain they automatically think War Hero, POW Hero, Veteran Hero, Hero,hero,hero...

McCain has an Achilles' heal which is the pow/mia families' hatred of McCain. It would be far better for the grassroots to use negative attacks than to wait for the candidates to do it. They might simply decide not to. They probably would have already if they were going to.

So then those people who make videos for youtube may want to make several anti-McCain videos focusing directly and mercilessly on his handling of the family's efforts for information as Senator McCain. Don't get distracted by rumors about his conduct during his imprisonment any more than necessary. Focus on his totally inexplicable conduct as a Senator with regards to this pow/mia issue.

Senator McCain, why have you repeatedly failed to assist the families of pows/mias in their goal to uncover information leading to the whereabouts of their loved ones? As a former pow yourself why have you repeatedly blocked those efforts?

We have three days to cast doubt in the minds of the supporters of Senator McCain. Before Super Tuesday.

 

[InLoveWithRon]

Romney looks good at first sight. But, it was perfectly obvious in the last debate that he can't see the forest for the trees. His mind gets tangled up into details and he can't see the larger patterns. His ego further clouds his judgment and bogs him down into petty squabbles. All that was quite evident in the debate and Ron Paul easily exploited these weaknesses making Romney look like a spoiled little brat.

Our good doctor is in a class for himself in the present field, an intellectual, ethical and visionary giant among pigmies.

good post on romney. and so true

 

[WRellim]

Didn't McCain just raise $7 million in the first three weeks of January? Unfortunately, the more momentum he has, the more he'll receive from big donors. As for Romney's amazing luck, it's really no wonder since his perceived opponent is McCain --- a faux conservative if there ever was one. We need Ron Paul to do well on Super Tuesday to give us some breathing room, and to encourage people to help us outlast the other candidates.

Yes, but a lot of that was problematic for him for several reasons:

1) He had DEBTS of $4.5 M from 4th Qtr (and yes he had $2.9M cash, but THAT was spent in IA, NH & SC).

2) So $7M - $4.5M = $2.5M "left" (not that he's averse to deficit financing... economics not being area of expertise.)

3) Not all of the $7M was for the primaries, like Romney, many of his donors are maxed out and still contribute in order to get the tete-a-tete (so those funds are "general election" only).

4) He also spent HEAVILY on the Florida win, and he IS trying to set up offices in various BIG Feb 5th states and maintain staff there.


So, what he is REALLY counting on is that with the Rudy & Arnold endorsements, he would also get a huge flood of incoming money -- whether it will be enough and in time for Feb 5th... good question. Right now he's being "cocky" with his media-anointed "inevitability" status... many others have had that as well, and it doesn't always last.

This is NOT over yet.

(BTW, Romney donated ANOTHER $18M to his campaign in 4th Qtr, so he may still run a lot of ads... not sure what's really up with those as I don't live in a Feb 5 state and really don't watch MSM at all anyway).

 

[N13]

More than anything, we need to win some states on Feb 5.

 

[Crickett]

More than anything, we need to win some states on Feb 5.

Yes and more money in the bombs..so far this is looking like a firecracker...but we all do what we can..

 

[zebov]

Uh, you're joking, right?

Without advertising in all those states, Ron Paul won't stand a chance. In fact, the states he has been doing good in are the states he's advertising heavily in.

Advertising costs money, and last time I checked, February 5th wasn't here yet.

He needs more money NOW.

Oh I agree completely. What I'm saying is that if someone sweeps super tuesday, then money won't matter. You can run all the ads you want at that point but the super tuesday sweeper will have already been crowned winner and the rest of the votes will fall in line. Our hope is that super tuesday is split at which point Paul's fundraising prowess will be useful again.

I was in no way saying people shouldn't donate! DO DONATE! TODAY! TOMORROW! Every day until Paul gets the presidency! I'm just hoping that our donations will be useful even after Super Tuesday.

 

[Feelgood]

oh yeah the GOP can't stand McCain. He will fail

The GOP cant stand Ron Paul...your point?

Yes and more money in the bombs..so far this is looking like a firecracker...but we all do what we can..

Yeah, 4 hours into the money bomb and we have $125k so far...

 

[Thunderbolt]

I would rather see it down to McCain and Paul rather than Romney and Paul.

McCain is a complete fool and that would be quickly evident in a one on one with just them.

Romney has the looks and is smart enough that I think he could dance around Paul's message and give RP a serious debate. So I hope Tuesday obviously doesnt give McCain enough delegates to win it all, but I hope he gets enough to discourage Romney into quitting.

Romney is smart? I disagree completely. I think he comes across as petulant child who doesn't have a single thought in his head that he created. Paul's best chance is against him. There are a lot of very prejudiced people in this country. Romney also is nothing more than a parrot and would look like a moron next to Paul.

 

[Molly1]

When most people hear McCain they automatically think War Hero, POW Hero, Veteran Hero, Hero,hero,hero...

McCain has an Achilles' heal which is the pow/mia families' hatred of McCain. It would be far better for the grassroots to use negative attacks than to wait for the candidates to do it. They might simply decide not to. They probably would have already if they were going to.

So then those people who make videos for youtube may want to make several anti-McCain videos focusing directly and mercilessly on his handling of the family's efforts for information as Senator McCain. Don't get distracted by rumors about his conduct during his imprisonment any more than necessary. Focus on his totally inexplicable conduct as a Senator with regards to this pow/mia issue.

Senator McCain, why have you repeatedly failed to assist the families of pows/mias in their goal to uncover information leading to the whereabouts of their loved ones? As a former pow yourself why have you repeatedly blocked those efforts?

We have three days to cast doubt in the minds of the supporters of Senator McCain. Before Super Tuesday.

Mccain could really be knocked right out of the race by this. He places all his worth on being a 'war hero.' So if the families of the real war heros--the POW's and MIA's--don't think highly of him, that could ruin his one talking point.

I believe the ad that so successfully knocked Dukakis out (the willie horton ad) was done by a grassroots organization. Anyone else hear that?

But such an ad would have to go on tv to have an impact. Where is that billionaire?

 

[Molly1]

By the way, negative ads don't have to be nasty. You can just tell the truth about the other candidate's positions, or push a little on their achilles heels.

So, for instance, you could explain that Huckabee abolishing the irs does not mean that he is abolishing taxes. You just pay taxes in another form, every time you buy something.

Whereas Ron Paul wants to abolish taxes completely for the individual, and he will do that by cutting expenses overseas.

It could simply be 'the citizens' committee to inform citizens.'

"Be informed before you vote."

well, I don't know how any of this works legally, so that's for someone else to figure out.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

I'm predicting McCain pulls far enough ahead after Super Tuesday that at least Huck drops out. Romney might last a little longer, but once he is gone I don't think there will be hardly any attention on the campaign anyway. I think Dr. P will probably just keep plugging away until the convention, when he'll get one more chance to make some noise.

Unless all the polls really are wrong and we suddenly dominate on super tuesday....(crosses fingers)