"The High Tide" Final Donation Push - Moving on to IN, NC, NE, ID, KY, OR, NM, SD

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[Phantom]

Some idiot called Jeff Shaw has just written an insulting piece on The High Tide and Ron Paul. Read the article here then give the plonker a piece of your mind.

 

[skyorbit]

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TRacy

 

[TruthAtLast]

I'm sure the success in PA yesterday was due to many factors, but the airing of the High Tide Ad on many major TV networks couldn't have hurt.

I would assume that it would be even cheaper in some of the remaining states. We need to get this on the air in those states ASAP. Donate People!

 

[tajitj]

I am going to make the wild accusation and rush to judgement.

The HighTide ad was the reason Paul got 15% in Philly.

I have no numbers to support it but hope people make the connection and get this ad on in the remaining states.

 

[MikeSmith]

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[torchbearer]

I am going to make the wild accusation and rush to judgement.

The HighTide ad was the reason Paul got 15% in Philly.

I have no numbers to support it but hope people make the connection and get this ad on in the remaining states.

Perhaps with more coverage, that percent could be higher.
Let me see what I have after bills... I will try to squeeze a few pennies for this project.
If we could raise blimp like numbers, i know this commercial will make an impact on the race.

 

[AdamT]

Some idiot called Jeff Shaw has just written an insulting piece on The High Tide and Ron Paul. Read the article here then give the plonker a piece of your mind.

Love the comments!

 

[AdamT]

I'm back from my 3 week road trip (finally!). Currently there's about $1500 we've raised for the post-Philly buy, and I'm not sure we can raise much more at this point. Here are our options:

Upcoming Primaries
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North Carolina & Indiana - May 6
Nebraska - May 13
Idaho - May 27
Oregon & Kentucky - May 20
New Mexico & South Dakota - June 3

What's the best option to make the most impact for the available funds? Pick 1 state and target major cities?

 

[Libertarian Ideals]

In response to AdamT's post, I would have to say:

My what-the-heck vote would go to Indiana.

Their motto is: Crossroads of America.

I think that makes it pretty fitting.
Plus, it's a populous state so we have a better chance of reaching more of those who haven't heard the freedom message before.


My let's-win-a-state vote would go to Oregon.

Oregon is definitely anti-war, pro-liberty.

 

[MikeSmith]

I'm back from my 3 week road trip (finally!). Currently there's about $1500 we've raised for the post-Philly buy, and I'm not sure we can raise much more at this point. Here are our options:

Upcoming Primaries
--------------------------
North Carolina & Indiana - May 6
Nebraska - May 13
Idaho - May 27
Oregon & Kentucky - May 20
New Mexico & South Dakota - June 3

What's the best option to make the most impact for the available funds? Pick 1 state and target major cities?

Here are the state populations I posted earlier:

Indiana 6,345,289
North Carolina 9,521,032
Nebraska 1,774,571
Idaho 1,499,402
Kentucky 4,241,474
Oregon 3,747,455
New Mexico 2,315,896
South Dakota 796,214

 

[skyorbit]

Do we have enough time to make a big difference in North Carolina or Indiana?

I think we should target a state where the deadline hasn't passed to change their registration to Republican yet.

Tracy

 

[TruthAtLast]

This section of one my other posts may be relevant to this topic of choosing a state.

PA is traditionally a Blue state due primarily to its two major cities (Philadelphia and Pittsburgh) but is HIGHLY red in all rural areas so the data in those counties where Ron Paul and Huckabee took a large chunk of the vote is still relevant.
This primary wasn't McCain versus the Democrats. It was McCain versus two Republicans that he should have destroyed by at least 85-90%. If this trend continues in the remaining states he really would have a lot to worry about in a general election.

Additionally, if all of the states that have already voted had a chance to vote again today, the outcome may be different. Not only have more people started to wake up to what McCain is all about (buyer's remorse), but many more have become aware of the Freedom Movement unfortunately too late to vote. I know I've converted at least a dozen people myself since Super Tuesday when my state voted. With Ron Paul looking more like a prophet every day as his economic predictions come true, many people have opened up their minds enough to pay attention.

The big tests left will be IN, NC, NE, ID, SD. Those are very Red states that McCain SHOULD dominate.

KY and NM could go either way.
NM voted Gore in '00 but Bush in '04
KY voted Bush in '04 but Kerry managed to win a handful of counties and (39%). KY also voted Bush in '00 but he won with only 57% of the popular vote (Gore took 42%).
So who knows, maybe KY and NM could be swing states this year.

HI and OR are mostly blue states.

But if McCain can't unify the party behind him in primary states that he should win and WOULD need in his pocket to maintain any hope of a win in a General Election, then he and the GOP elite will have a lot to worry about by backing someone that a large chunk of their party will not support.

The remaining states will be very interesting.​

 

[slacker921]

Do we have enough time to make a big difference in North Carolina or Indiana?

I think we should target a state where the deadline hasn't passed to change their registration to Republican yet.

Tracy

There's time to make a difference in NC.. sure.. but it would require raising about 10 grand in the next few days to run tv ads. .. and/or the campaign shipping Ron Paul's books out to a (large) random sampling of registered Republicans and having a large number of book signings and campaign stops around the state.

Also.. NC is fairly independent and has a large number of delegates..

 

[AdamT]

Lew Rockwell just gave us props for the Philly effort!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020698.html

 

[TruthAtLast]

i was looking at the PA coverage map right now. It looks like it was playing mostly in the greater Philadelphia area. We got 14% in Philadelphia County (which surprisingly is only 3,062 votes). There were only about 21k Republican votes total in that county while the Democrats had about 400,000 votes in that one county alone. PA is very red in the rural areas but all blue in the two major cities.

I could be wrong because I'm just going off of the coverage map but all of the best performing counties didn't ever see the Ad but there is no telling what would have happened if it was showing in those areas.

I'm only bringing this up because this might be something to consider in the remaining states. We should choose mostly RED states and mostly RED counties to show the ad. Even if we didn't win the state, it would be nice to see a different color on a couple of the counties when they show the color-coded map.

I'll take a win where I can get it.

 

[slacker921]

Time Warner has a market just around the Boone area of NC.. a small market, very red on the map from 2004 .. around Avery and Mitchell counties in the NW.. might be a prime spot to try the ad out. $2,000 would buy a decent number of ads there. .. it's also a college town..

 

[MikeSmith]

i was looking at the PA coverage map right now. It looks like it was playing mostly in the greater Philadelphia area. We got 14% in Philadelphia County (which surprisingly is only 3,062 votes). There were only about 21k Republican votes total in that county while the Democrats had about 400,000 votes in that one county alone. PA is very red in the rural areas but all blue in the two major cities.

I could be wrong because I'm just going off of the coverage map but all of the best performing counties didn't ever see the Ad but there is no telling what would have happened if it was showing in those areas.

I'm only bringing this up because this might be something to consider in the remaining states. We should choose mostly RED states and mostly RED counties to show the ad. Even if we didn't win the state, it would be nice to see a different color on a couple of the counties when they show the color-coded map.

I'll take a win where I can get it.

I wrote this in another thread:

"Well, it did run in Berks, in which Ron Paul got 26% or so, but in Philadelphia, Delaware, Montgomery, and another county, he got around 14-16%. Also, it's not like the ad ran on primetime on FOX, NBC, ABC, or CBS. At best, it garnered, maybe, 5,000 - 10,000 votes and was probably seen by less than 100,000 people, a lot of them Democrats. So, results kind of inconclusive. I still think it's a very good project to donate to. It's been reported several times on this forum that people who didn't support Ron Paul that saw this ad had a better impression of him and were willing to do more research."

There were a considerable amount of votes cast if you add up those 5 counties, but yeah, it would have been more cost effective to only advertise in the rural districts.

 

[TruthAtLast]

I wrote this in another thread:

"Well, it did run in Berks, in which Ron Paul got 26% or so, but in Philadelphia, Delaware, Montgomery, and another county, he got around 14-16%. Also, it's not like the ad ran on primetime on FOX, NBC, ABC, or CBS. At best, it garnered, maybe, 5,000 - 10,000 votes and was probably seen by less than 100,000 people, a lot of them Democrats. So, results kind of inconclusive. I still think it's a very good project to donate to. It's been reported several times on this forum that people who didn't support Ron Paul that saw this ad had a better impression of him and were willing to do more research."

There were a considerable amount of votes cast if you add up those 5 counties, but yeah, it would have been more cost effective to only advertise in the rural districts.

thanks for in insight Mike. I wasn't sure exactly where it was shown. I love the ad and think it is an amazing project to get behind. I was just trying to think of the best way to maximize its impact in the remaining states. Berks had a great turnout.

Has anyone reported on whether Ron Paul has seen the ad and what his response was?

 

[Eric21ND]

I think we should focus on South Dakota, Idaho, and Oregon.

South Dakota is such a small state in population, that you could have significant impact there. Here in North Dakota we only lost to McCain by 100-200 votes! I expect South Dakota to have similiar results. We need to make a stand in one state. Concentrate our resources on one state and go for the win or most damage possible.