The GOP might do just as well letting Kokesh go for it

[He Who Pawns]

I clearly remember HeWhoYawns saying he was a military man...

Yes I was on the federal government and US Army payroll for a few years. But then I actually went out and got a job, unlike Kokesh. As far as I know, Kokesh has never had a job or career in the free market. And let's remember that Kokesh got busted down in rank while a Marine for trying to smuggle a weapon out of Iraq.

We need accomplished people like Peter Schiff and Rand Paul running, not egomaniacs like Kokesh who have been living off the government and their parents.

 

[specsaregood]

As far as I know, Kokesh has never had a job or career in the free market.

Then why are you so sure that the IRS could stop his campaign with a single phone call?

 

[He Who Pawns]

Then why are you so sure that the IRS could stop his campaign with a single phone call?

Because Kokesh stated that he's been doing "freelance graphic design" and collecting fees for "speaking." If those amounted to more than $500, and he didn't file, he's guilty of tax evasion under federal law.

 

[specsaregood]

Because Kokesh stated that he's been doing "freelance graphic design" and collecting fees for "speaking." If those amounted to more than $500, and he didn't file, he's guilty of tax evasion under federal law.

Those sound like jobs in the freemarket, though. Doesn't that dispute your previous statement?

 

[He Who Pawns]

I'm talking about a real job.

 

[specsaregood]

I'm talking about a real job.

You mean wage slave? Because doing freelance graphic design is real work. You don't think being a self-employed individual is a "job" or doing graphic design is a "job"? Not to mention I'd consider getting paid for speaking engagements a job it takes time and energy and preparation, is being a media talking head a "job"?

 

[Matt Collins]

Lol, Matt. What does it matter if Kokesh can win a non-existent primary, if he has ZERO chance of winning in the general? Why don't you google the demographics of that district, and then tell us how Kokesh is going to have even a 1% chance of winning. This whole "campaign" is nothing but an adventure in vanity by Kokesh, at the expense of our movement overall.

And again, even if hell froze over, and somehow Kokesh had even a 5% chance of winning, Democrats would only need to make one call to the IRS to get him thrown into jail, so this whole thing his a joke.

Our efforts should be concentrated on Rand and Peter, not this clown.

I would tend to agree with you to an extent, but you should be less rude about it.


We should go after the low hanging fruit, and I see that as being Rand's run for US Senate (I admit I'm biased however). Any objective look I would think would show that Rand has the best chance for success if everything is done right.

And Kokesh might have a chance if he does everything right. His opponent (assuming he wins the primary) is a freshman I think.

 

[He Who Pawns]

What does it matter if the guy is a freshman? The district is completely stacked. Not to mention, AGAIN, that Kokesh is a federal tax protester, which makes him 100% inviable as a congressional candidate. How many times do I have to repeat myself before it sinks in?

As for Rand vs Schiff, we have already seen that Peter can raise truckloads of money, BEFORE even announcing. Not to mention that Peter can pump millions of dollars of his own money into the race, unlike Rand. Plus, to top it all off, Dodd is extremely vulnerable and will attract huge amounts of GOP cash.

So your statement that Rand is the lowest-hanging fruit is not necessarily true. But Peter and Rand are our top priorities.

 

[specsaregood]

Not to mention, AGAIN, that Kokesh is a federal tax protester, which makes him 100% inviable as a congressional candidate.

So that is the argument you are going to go with then? Not the "he's never had a job" line? Good, stick with one.

Not to mention that Peter can pump millions of dollars of his own money into the race, unlike Rand.

I doubt Schiff is prepared to dump millions of dollars into his own campaign. He hasn't given any indication of that and I just can't see it, afterall he had to actually work for that money. Also, repeating that will probably hurt his fundraising numbers, the fact that Mitt was uber-rich certainly didnt' help his fundraising.

But Peter and Rand are our top priorities.

I havent' seen ANYBODY here dispute that. What I take objection to --and it seems other do as well -- is the fact that you want to jump on any kokesh thread to simply bash him. Like him or not, support him or not, he had RP's endorsement, is a great public speaker and has support even outside the main Ron Paul grassroots network. If you don't like him, so be it; but that doesn't mean you have to try your best to destroy any support he does have. I for one would like to see a "tax protester" get the Republican nomination and would like to see one elected to office even more so.

 

[Matt Collins]

As for Rand vs Schiff, we have already seen that Peter can raise truckloads of money, BEFORE even announcing. Not to mention that Peter can pump millions of dollars of his own money into the race, unlike Rand. Plus, to top it all off, Dodd is extremely vulnerable and will attract huge amounts of GOP cash.

So your statement that Rand is the lowest-hanging fruit is not necessarily true. But Peter and Rand are our top priorities.

I would still say that Rand has a better chance than Schiff simply because of a conservative running in a conservative state vs a conservative running in a liberal state against a very well recognizable incumbent.

 

[acptulsa]

I for one would like to see a "tax protester" get the Republican nomination and would like to see one elected to office even more so.

What--that seems more honest to you than all of the 'Democratic tax protesters' we have in the Cabinet right now, telling us how patriotic it is to pay taxes? Why, whatever could be disingenuous about that?

 

[disorderlyvision]

So your statement that Rand is the lowest-hanging fruit is not necessarily true. But Peter and Rand are our top priorities.

correction they are YOUR top priorities. FUCK OFF

 

[He Who Pawns]

disorder, why don't you move to NM and you and Kokesh can drive around the state in his Dad's RV wasting our limited resources as a movement, just to increase his vanity and ego. Just pray the RV does't get repo'd mid campaign.

Am I the only one who senses some homo-erotic support for Kokesh? I don't know what else explains this blind, delusional support, flying in the face of all evidence, logic and reason. I notice that a lot of male Kokesh supporters say, "I met Adam and I think he's awesome..." etc. It sounds very GAY to me.

 

[No1ButPaul08]

As for Rand vs Schiff, we have already seen that Peter can raise truckloads of money, BEFORE even announcing. Not to mention that Peter can pump millions of dollars of his own money into the race, unlike Rand. Plus, to top it all off, Dodd is extremely vulnerable and will attract huge amounts of GOP cash.

So your statement that Rand is the lowest-hanging fruit is not necessarily true. But Peter and Rand are our top priorities.

I would still say that Rand has a better chance than Schiff simply because of a conservative running in a conservative state vs a conservative running in a liberal state against a very well recognizable incumbent.

I would say Rand probably has a slightly better chance of winning although I think a Schiff win would be bigger.

 

[acptulsa]

Am I the only one who senses some homo-erotic support for Kokesh? I don't know what else explains this blind, delusional support, flying in the face of all evidence, logic and reason. I notice that a lot of male Kokesh supporters say, "I met Adam and I think he's awesome..." etc. It sounds very GAY to me.

Do you really think you're strengthening your position by clutching at these straws?

 

[He Who Pawns]

My arguments are already rock-solid and beyond any dispute. At this point, I am simply trying to figure what is causing these Kokesh dead-enders to continue on, in spite of overwhelming evidence showing that Kokesh is not viable.

I think it's very similar to all the Republican men who supported Plain, just out of lust. My guess is that many of Kokesh's most "devoted" male followers are homosexuals or bi-sexuals. If you notice, nearly all of them will say, "I met Adam at ______ and I am devoted to him...." etc.

It's the only thing that can explain this illogical behavior. Are any Kokesh male followers willing to admit a sexual attraction to him? Yes or no?

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

disorder, why don't you move to NM and you and Kokesh can drive around the state in his Dad's RV wasting our limited resources as a movement, just to increase his vanity and ego. Just pray the RV does't get repo'd mid campaign.

Am I the only one who senses some homo-erotic support for Kokesh? I don't know what else explains this blind, delusional support, flying in the face of all evidence, logic and reason. I notice that a lot of male Kokesh supporters say, "I met Adam and I think he's awesome..." etc. It sounds very GAY to me.

Gay bashing now? - bye bye

 

[specsaregood]

Gay bashing now? - bye bye

Thanks, I was holding my tongue, resisting the urge to lash out.....glad I did.

 

[Flash]

I just realized that user joined the boards in 09. He definently had to be a troll.

 

[No1ButPaul08]

Gay bashing now? - bye bye

Wondering if people are gay is not gay bashing, and hardly worth a banning.

And although I agree with HWP with regards to Kokesh's candidacy, he should probably just let them do their thing at this point.