The end of the single family home

[phill4paul]

Location, location, location...

My missus is a reality agent. It's a great spot. 10 mins. to down town. But, nestled in woods. Because of this thread I started looking at in town rent at apartments.

As of April 2019, average rent for an apartment in Hickory, NC is $968 which is a 16.12% increase from last year when the average rent was $812 , and a 15.5% increase from last month when the average rent was $818.

One bedroom apartments in Hickory rent for $598 a month on average (a 24.08% decrease from last year) and two bedroom apartment rents average $1006 (a 16.5% increase from last year).

So one bedrooms are down. Two bedrooms are up.

But, a tiny home wouldn't be an one bedroom apartment. It would be ones own private living space. No noise aside, above or below. Quick commute. Having looked at this I think $800- $850 a month would work.

Still more cogitating to do.

 

[VIDEODROME]

So what is the main gripe here that people don't want to live in apartments close to work that are smaller, probably require less energy, and save on the commute?

It might be interesting to consider New York City which I think is mostly apartments or town houses, but people are getting discouraged by the costs. I'm not sure if the solution is build more higher apartments.

Another issue here might be that typically a community of houses often has access to what is seen as a better school system. People might even live at the edge of their means just because they want their kids to succeed. I'm thinking of this in a broad sense because I don't know what Houston city schools are like versus urban, but it seems to generally be how it plays out.

Maybe this American Dream is about more than just the spacious home with property, but also access to the community and services that come with it.

 

[Matt Collins]

It might be interesting to consider New York City which I think is mostly apartments or town houses, but people are getting discouraged by the costs. I'm not sure if the solution is build more higher apartments.

Get rid of rent controls, allow a free market. Eliminate zoning laws. Lower property taxes.

The cost of rent would drop over night if that happened.

 

[Matt Collins]

An article very closely related to this subject about how urban planners want to make life worse for everyone, especially as it relates to transportation issues:


https://www.ocregister.com/2019/09/15/transit-planners-want-to-make-your-life-worse/

 

[angelatc]

Maybe this American Dream is about more than just the spacious home with property, but also access to the community and services that come with it.

I think that not everybody dreams about the same thing. And we all make compromises. I mean, when I was younger I just wanted cheap, but that meant a long drive to work. My income rose, so I moved closer to work which was more expensive. Then I wanted a yard, then I wanted to ditch the neighbors, now I am hoping for something without stairs and maybe some water. I don't shop much, so I don't mind driving an hour once a month. And I think there's a stronger sense of community in rural 'Merica than in the city.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Just another salvo in the war to move us all into government approved, "green" stack-a-prole units, eating soylent protein glop.

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1447570393695506432

 

[Invisible Man]

Here's a solution we should all support. Just end single-family zoning.

Let more people use more land to build, sell, buy, rent, and live in duplexes and condos, while at the same time those who want to continue to use land to build, sell, buy, and rent single-family homes can do that.

Doing this would not constitute any kind of a war on single-family homes or property ownership.

Whatever the question is, the answer is more freedom.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Its critics say that the house is too sprawling in a time of climate change,...

There is no such thing as "climate change."

Fuck city-dwellers!

This.

 

[acptulsa]

$#@! city-dwellers!

What, you don't want to burn four gallons of diesel fuel a day, carbon and sulfur and all, commuting to your own farm from a regional stack-a-prole high rise which is supposed to save you money on utilities but costs more all summer because heat rises from the apartment below and the windows don't open?

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

What, you don't want to burn four gallons of diesel fuel a day, carbon and sulfur and all, commuting to your own farm from a regional stack-a-prole high rise which is supposed to save you money on utilities but costs more all summer because heat rises from the apartment below and the windows don't open?

It is best to reside in a hole in the ground.

 

[tod evans]

It is best to reside in a hole in the ground.

Better to live in a tar-paper shack on 10 acres than in the concrete jungle.

 

[CCTelander]

It is best to reside in a hole in the ground.

“We got evicted from our hole in the ground.”

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

“We got evicted from our hole in the ground.”

FYI a mole has more rights than you do.

 

[fisharmor]

What is it about cities nobody likes?
Is it the wide range of goods and services they generally provide?
Is it the architecturally interesting landscape?
Is it the street performers who bring free live music to the lives of people in the city?
Is it the unparalleled access to ethnic food?
Is it the theater and concert performances that (outside of pandemic times) are widely available year-round?
Is it the ability to walk to where you're getting?

Or... maybe... hear me out... maybe it's the fact that leftists have owned them for over a century and conservatives and libertarians have simply rolled over and let them have the cities.

Maybe it's the fact that nobody is willing to fight for them because they see it as a lost cause.

Maybe instead of talking to people in inner cities, it's easier to dig your heels in against immigrants because they aren't staying in the cities. Maybe the existential threat they pose is solely down to the fact that nobody is talking to them except leftists.

Maybe nobody has heard people like Maj Toure speak and therefore have no idea how easy it is to snap these people out of the leftist spell.

As for me... I haven't been there during the plandemic, but I've said for years that you'd only have to change 2 or 3 things about New York City for me to want to live there, and they're all very achievable political goals... if you don't believe that trying absolutely nothing is the best course of action.

 

[tod evans]

What is it about cities nobody likes?

The bureaucracy!

The fact that every other swinging dick wants to either pick your pocket or tell you how to live.

Humanity, by and large, are nasty creatures with nasty habits, when you clump 'em up it's overwhelming.

Pollution, ride a motorcycle in any city for just an hour and take off your glasses, you'll look like a reverse racoon.

You can't walk out your back door and take a leak.

You can't shoot a buck from your back deck.

Lakes and rivers, if there are any close, are overrun by cops and idiots.

People, unless you are an immigrant, generally don't have a sense of community.

I can go on for pages.......

 

[Matt Collins]

Cities are inherently "liberal" and big government. That's just their nature. And its the kind of people they attract. I don't like it, but I choose not to live in one.

The problem is that people in the cities think their will should be imposed on everyone not living in the cities. That, historically speaking, doesn't end well.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

The bureaucracy!

The fact that every other swinging dick wants to either pick your pocket or tell you how to live.

Humanity, by and large, are nasty creatures with nasty habits, when you clump 'em up it's overwhelming.

Pollution, ride a motorcycle in any city for just an hour and take off your glasses, you'll look like a reverse racoon.

You can't walk out your back door and take a leak.

You can't shoot a buck from your back deck.

Lakes and rivers, if there are any close, are overrun by cops and idiots.

People, unless you are an immigrant, generally don't have a sense of community.

I can go on for pages.......

Please do, I'm highly amused by the critical yet artistic method of bringing your argument across.

 

[tod evans]

Please do, I'm highly amused by the critical yet artistic method of bringing your argument across.

Maybe I'll feel more fired up in the morning, pretty beat right now..

But I'll leave one more quick thought;
Anytime there is a large group of people in one area there will be discord, power struggles, gossiping and plain old personality clashes, then toss in hundreds or thousands of domestic squabbles on any given day and it sure seems like a high price to pay for a little "culture and convivence" ....