ICE Invades Wrong Home (US Citizens)

[Voluntarist]

Sounds like more Illegal invader ID theft caused this.
Kind of makes it clear why we need to get rid of them all.

Nope, it's a rental home in a middle class neighborhood. The suspects they were looking for evidently lived there in the past. The current residents (woman and three daughters) have been there for at least two weeks. Assume a month vacant before that for cleaning and such. Basic incompetence on the part of ICE/INS/DHS/FBI ... none of them bothered to check to see who was actually living there prior to sending a 20 person armed platoon crashing through the door during the sleeping hours of the night.

 

[Voluntarist]

KFOR has the interview with the woman on it's site, but the only YouTube is one that's embedded in the MSNBC segment. It starts at 1:31

 

[CCTelander]

KFOR has the interview with the woman on it's site, but the only YouTube is one that's embedded in the MSNBC segment. It starts at 1:31

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This is all very typical behavior by ALL federal agents/law enforcement. They always destroy the place, leave it in ruins, steal the victims property and accept no responsibility. Doesn’t matter which agency, IRS, ATF, FBI, DEA, Marshal’s Service, hell even the fucking FDA.

I know of 1 case where ATF busted into a guy’s house when he wasn’t there, literally trashed the place piling broken items, clothes, etc in the middle of the living room floor. They even tore up the guys carpet. Then they cut his gun safes open and piled every gun he had on top of the rubble. They left the place like that, with the door hanging loose from its hinges, and just a hand written note taped to the door informing the guy what happened.

They’re ALL just brutal thugs, animals, deserving of no respect or even simple courtesy. Pure worthless scum, so heroes to some here.

This lady will probably never get her stuff back, especially the cash. Civil Asset Forfeiture.

Welcome to AmeriKa.

 

[wizardwatson]

KFOR has the interview with the woman on it's site, but the only YouTube is one that's embedded in the MSNBC segment. It starts at 1:31

I had a run-in with INS in 2001 after 9/11.

We were purchasing a convenience store from an Indian-owned company, and the employee of the previous owner was there and I believe he was student visa (not allowed to be working).

The INS rolled up in a corvette in plain clothes. Officers with long hair and beards with no identification except badge chains. Technically, our company owned the lease at the time. They kept asking to see personnel records, I kept asking for a warrant which they did not have. They kept badgering the employee from the selling company and eventually arrested. I never got any warrant. Once they knew I wasn't showing them shit, they moved on to the other guy.

Now, like then, their objective is to "get those numbers up". I knew many of the Pakistani and Indians, and literally nothing happened to any of these kids. They were arrested, sent to INS facility in KC, released same day and went back to work.

But our ZOG got their headline: "INS rounds up illegals as part of post 9/11" or something like that.

What's funny is I knew an Egyptian guy. He HATED the Saudi's. His store was by my house and we talked a lot. He used to say, "Your country is stupid to let the Saudi's in. Those guys are pieces of shit." Didn't care about Indians, Pakistani's....but the Saudi's he said were the worst. But of course those are a "great ally".

Anyway, this is 9/11 2.0.

Gotta get those numbers up. Jack-booted thugs make American cowards feel safe.

 

[Invisible Man]

If foreign invaders shirk our laws when they come into this country, then they have nothing to complain about when the homes of their innocent natural born US citizen neighbors get invaded by ICE.

 

[wizardwatson]

If foreign invaders shirk our laws when they come into this country, then they have nothing to complain about when the homes of their innocent natural born US citizen neighbors get invaded by ICE.

It also can't be understated, that the most important thing is that whatever a Fed does, they are doing it to MAGA and because Jesus, so they must never be held accountable no matter how much stuff they steal, dogs they kill, or innocent people they kill.

Anyone who complains clearly supports kHaMaS and is a baby-killing terrorist supporter and guilty of being a treasonous commie.

At least that's why I think the 2nd highest RPF poster is trying to teach me. I'm still learning.

 

[unknown]

My understanding of what I've read is that they did have a valid warrant; it's just that no one on the warrant had been in the house for at least two weeks. That's why I think if you're going to execute a warrant involving a 20 agent platoon with associated firepower, you really ought to ensure that your intel for the operation is complete and up-to-date (meaning you want to be sure the people you're looking for, and not some innocent bystanders, are actually in the house). They were operating off of two-week old intel. That's just outright incompetence.

That's a whole other issue.

Warrants are rubber stamped.

98% are granted.

And those don't even include the SWAT raids.

For the 100,000 yearly SWAT raids, the % is even higher.

The 4th has effectively been reduced to a formality.

 

[TheTexan]

That's a whole other issue.

Warrants are rubber stamped.

Which is a predictable consequence of a culture that is at war with itself.

None of these problems can be fixed unless we fix the culture first.

And we can't do that if we keep letting immigrants stream in by the millions.

 

[Swordsmyth]

And they don't disappoint, do they? We've seen the excusing talking point: "Invader ID Theft" ... which is a really poor excuse for an armed platoon invading the home of a family of US Citizen's, when operating off of two week old intel, and without verifying that the people they were looking for were in the home (and making sure that innocent bystanders were not). And said platoon forcing 4 women in their underwear out into the rain while they tore apart their home and seized their property and cash (which have yet to be returned btw). Incompetence like that starts at the top.

When that excuse is shown to be ineffective, they'll start blaming the victims on the receiving end of the ICE raid, or attacking the victim's character - as if the victims brought this upon themselves.

Nobody said it was an excuse for how the raid was executed.
But the point is that ending the crackdown and deportations is not the answer.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Which is a predictable consequence of a culture that is at war with itself.

None of these problems can be fixed unless we fix the culture first.

And we can't do that if we keep letting immigrants stream in by the millions.

Exactly.

They decry the fact that illegals are used to advance measures they claim are police state (some are some aren't), but then they try to stop us from getting rid of the illegals and keeping them out.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Nope, it's a rental home in a middle class neighborhood. The suspects they were looking for evidently lived there in the past. The current residents (woman and three daughters) have been there for at least two weeks. Assume a month vacant before that for cleaning and such. Basic incompetence on the part of ICE/INS/DHS/FBI ... none of them bothered to check to see who was actually living there prior to sending a 20 person armed platoon crashing through the door during the sleeping hours of the night.

Maybe it wasn't ID theft this time, but it still wouldn't have happened if we didn't have invaders running around and living in our rentals.

 

[acptulsa]

Maybe it wasn't ID theft this time, but it still wouldn't have happened if we didn't have invaders running around and living in our rentals.

And that was underway the whole time Trump was #45.

You don't seem to realize what Trumpsucker means. It doesn't mean you've met Trump personally and performed a localized massage on him. It means you're hoodwinked by literally everything he says and does, no matter how evil. You don't give Jesus that much credit for being infallible.

 

[Swordsmyth]

And that was underway the whole time Trump was #45.

You don't seem to realize what Trumpsucker means. It doesn't mean you've met Trump personally and performed a localized massage on him. It means you're hoodwinked by literally everything he says and does, no matter how evil. You don't give Jesus that much credit for being infallible.

Trump shut down the border and did his best to get rid of them both times.
And you and the other usual suspects have done nothing but try to prevent him from doing either and facilitate the invasion.

 

[acptulsa]

And you and the other usual suspects have done nothing but try to prevent him from doing either and facilitate the invasion.

You're a toddler trying to throw blame and poo poo where neither belongs, in a desperate attempt to validate your stupidity because the CIA is herding you, like a cow, away from God.

 

[TheTexan]

Exactly.

They decry the fact that illegals are used to advance measures they claim are police state (some are some aren't), but then they try to stop us from getting rid of the illegals and keeping them out.

While youre right, the cultural rot is deeper than just that. Lots of people besides just illegals support police state, because of the simple fact they don't respect, and they fear, their fellow man.

And they have good reason to feel that way, because we are occupied by invaders.

Clear the invaders, fix the cultural rot. And I think even the people who do belong here, will be less inclined to support such measures.

 

[Voluntarist]

They’re ALL just brutal thugs, animals, deserving of no respect or even simple courtesy. Pure worthless scum, so heroes to some here.

One of the things that bothers me about this story is that those government-enforcement thugs seem to getting a lot closer to my middle class neck of the woods than they use to. It doesn't sit well with me regardless of who the thugs/goons are being used against - I look at those cases like advance warning on a radar scope (it's better to detect them at a distance than up close). But they do seem to be showing up closer and closer on the radar, and nobody seems to have them on a leash.

One of the things I've been trying to find out, to no avail, is who the husband is. He had sent the wife and daughters out to OKC from Maryland while he stayed behind to close out the exit. Rationally, I think this whole thing was a screw up by DHS; but if the husband turns out to be some type of activist, then that all goes out the window and I start thinking with that primitive conspiracy nodule in my brain..

 

[Swordsmyth]

While youre right, the cultural rot is deeper than just that. Lots of people besides just illegals support police state, because of the simple fact they don't respect, and they fear, their fellow man.

And they have good reason to feel that way, because we are occupied by invaders.

Clear the invaders, fix the cultural rot. And I think even the people who do belong here, will be less inclined to support such measures.

That was my point, those Americans that do support actual police state (not just law and order) measures do so because the country has been flooded with invaders and barbarians.
Get rid of the invaders and barbarians and you will get Mayberry again.

 

[Swordsmyth]

One of the things that bothers me about this story is that those government-enforcement thugs seem to getting a lot closer to my middle class neck of the woods than they use to. It doesn't sit well with me regardless of who the thugs/goons are being used against - I look at those cases like advance warning on a radar scope (it's better to detect them at a distance than up close). But they do seem to be showing up closer and closer on the radar, and nobody seems to have them on a leash.

One of the things I've been trying to find out, to no avail, is who the husband is. He had sent the wife and daughters out to OKC from Maryland while he stayed behind to close out the exit. Rationally, I think this whole thing was a screw up by DHS; but if the husband turns out to be some type of activist, then that all goes out the window and I start thinking with that primitive conspiracy nodule in my brain..

They will continue to get closer as long as the invaders are not removed.

 

[unknown]

If the Storm Troopers are looking for people, why TF are they stealing the people's possessions?

 

[acptulsa]

They will continue to get closer as long as the invaders are not removed.

What part of you've been failing at fearmongering us for a decade do you not understand? This shit doesn't work on us. Do you fail to notice this because you're blind and deaf, or because you're dumb?