The Donald's Assassination of General Soleimani – As Stupid as It Gets

[angelatc]

Look Danno...I don't mourn his death. What kind of precedent do you think this sets for an already lawless International system that the US perpetuates? I thought the Donald was supposed to be changing that. Who else do you want to target? Take your pick because their are thousands just like him in this world. It's B.S.

I agree. But your intellectual side might appreciate this article - https://spectator.us/case-genghis-trump/

 

[angelatc]

Ya, not sure if you are aware, but most people here don't like governments. Do you like your government?

Do you like the US government? Do you think we should change it? Then you are for regime change.

I like Trump because he is removing the regime that has controlled this country for over a century.

Careful what you wish for. Remember, the president had no constitutional authority to order the assassination.

 

[Todd]

Who would have ever thunk that Danno would be among several newby members led by a Trump Shill that would create a narrative paradigm shift at Ron Paul Forums where "The means justify the Ends".

 

[dannno]

Careful what you wish for. Remember, the president had no constitutional authority to order the assassination.

Uh, ya, pretty sure if the CIA assassinated Trump they wouldn't have any Constitutional authority either. But they would still do it anyway.

 

[angelatc]

What's wrong with regime change if it is coming from within? .

Ok, I am, for once speechless. Let me explain where ya lost me here. Trump assassinating a high-ranking official in a foreign government isn't ''coming from within.''

 

[Todd]

Uh, ya, pretty sure if the CIA assassinated Trump they wouldn't have any Constitutional authority either. But they would still do it anyway.

What if an Iranian assassin gets him. There are alot of twitter tweets that think he's a terrorist. You ok with that? Sounds logical to me.

 

[dannno]

Who would have ever thunk that Danno would be among several newby members led by a Trump Shill that would create a narrative paradigm shift at Ron Paul Forums where "The means justify the Ends".

A lot of original people here believed that 9/11 was an inside job that was carried out by the elite who party at Bohemian Grove where they perform satanic sacrifices. They are a satanic cabal who control the banking and monetary system, and are pushing for one world government and world communism.

They have been succeeding for a long time.

Now they are not. Because Trump.

Taking out this group of people is IMPERATIVE if we want freedom in the future. If you want to go back to being ruled by those people, then keep trying to play the rules of the game while your true enemy breaks them at every turn.

I want a free society as much, maybe more than you do. We have to get there first. This is the journey. There are dragons to defeat.

 

[angelatc]

Uh, ya, pretty sure if the CIA assassinated Trump they wouldn't have any Constitutional authority either. But they would still do it anyway.

And it would also be illegal.

 

[dannno]

And it would also be illegal.

Yep, it wouldn't stop them though.

 

[angelatc]

Uh, ya, pretty sure if the CIA assassinated Trump they wouldn't have any Constitutional authority either. But they would still do it anyway.

Is it fair for me to summarize your position as '' Yes it was illegal, but it's ok because the President did it,'' or is ''Yes it was illegal but it's ok because Trump did it,'' more accurate then?

Is ursurping the Constitution something that only Trump can do, or is it a power we want all presidents to have?

 

[angelatc]

Yep, it wouldn't stop them though.

Do you think that if they then stood up in public and admitted the crime, they should then be prosecuted?

 

[Todd]

I agree. But your intellectual side might appreciate this article - https://spectator.us/case-genghis-trump/

Actually I really like that. Especially the part about the left and it's confusion over Class and Identity. I have a friend who is Socialist and he has stated numerous times that he hates that todays left gets lost in identity politics over "Class". I agree that not playing by the rules is a welcome thing unless it involves interstate warfare and violence. But throwing out the rule book is one of the reasons I like when Trump eviscerates the media. The media, having been lying shills for so long helped to create Trump. The Elites deserve trump and they deserve each other.

 

[dannno]

Is it fair for me to summarize your position as '' Yes it was illegal, but it's ok because the President did it,'' or is ''Yes it was illegal but it's ok because Trump did it,'' more accurate then?

Is ursurping the Constitution something that only Trump can do, or is it a power we want all presidents to have?

My position is that it is debatable whether what Trump did was illegal because of Soleimani's past actions and what he had planned to carry out (not just in his head, not a pre-crime, but actually had the equipment and was in the process of carrying out the crime.. on the battlefield.. sorta like if the guy has a gun, he texts his friend that he is going to go murder somebody, and the cops catch him driving to the guy's house with a loaded gun...)

However, even if on some technicality it still crossed the line, say, it required letters of mark and reprisal, that it was not incredibly egregious partly because that is sort of an ancient concept - I think it is a good concept that should be restored - but it just isn't something that has been done in.. how long?? But also partly because I see no reason why those shouldn't have been able to be attained if requested based on the circumstances.

In other words, it is not something that I see as clearly egregious, it is sort of in a gray zone, but what we ended up with was most certainly a good outcome.

 

[angelatc]

In other words, it is not something that I see as clearly egregious, it is sort of in a gray zone, but what we ended up with was most certainly a good outcome.

Is it fair for me to summarize your position as '' Yes it might have been illegal, but it's ok because the President did it,'' or is ''Yes it might have been illegal but it's ok because Trump did it,'' more accurate?

 

[dannno]

Is it fair for me to summarize your position as '' Yes it might have been illegal, but it's ok because the President did it,'' or is ''Yes it might have been illegal but it's ok because Trump did it,'' more accurate?

No.

It was probably legal, it might have been illegal based on some technicality or interpretation, but it could have just as easily gone through legal channels and it was certainly not immoral - and it made the world a much better place. So it probably isn't really worth dwelling on too much.

 

[TheTexan]

No.

It was probably legal, it might have been illegal based on some technicality or interpretation, but it could have just as easily gone through legal channels and it was certainly not immoral - and it made the world a much better place. So it probably isn't really worth dwelling on too much.

This x1000. Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of countless innocent US soldiers. Brave, innocent US soldiers who did nothing wrong. I can't imagine the evil in Soleimani's heart, that would lead him to wanting the death of our brave soldiers serving our Great country in the middle east.

Clearly Soleimani was a man of great evil and should have been killed a long time ago.

 

[TheCount]

Uh, ya, pretty sure if the CIA assassinated Trump they wouldn't have any Constitutional authority either. But they would still do it anyway.

Wouldn't it be justified by your supposed logic?

He's a killer and some people don't like him.

 

[dannno]

Wouldn't it be justified by your supposed logic?

He's a killer and some people don't like him.

I suppose it depends on who is doing it and why, and what the expected outcome would be.

Unfortunately there is no possible situation based in the current reality that would justify such an action.

So no, I can't think of how it could be justified.

 

[jmdrake]

What I think is that you've lost your damned mind and and are now resorting to posting self-serving content from the very same Evangelicals that wanted us to invade Iraq in the first place. I guess you didn't read anything but the headline, because this is third sentence.



This is the fourth sentence.



What are you trying to tell us here? Because no matter how I look at it, Trump had no constitutional right to kill him. This is a war crime.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to angelatc again.

We've gone from conspiracy theories that undercut the argument for war (9/11 inside job) to conspiracy theories that prop up arguments for war (even though on the surface killing a guest of our supposed allies in Iraq was a stupid and unconstitutional war provocation...it's okay because he supposedly worked for the CIA because some inbred on YouTube said so.)

 

[jmdrake]

I suppose it depends on who is doing it and why, and what the expected outcome would be.

Unfortunately there is no possible situation based in the current reality that would justify such an action.

So no, I can't think of how it could be justified.

Sure it can be. Some inbred on YouTube can come up with some cockamamie theory without providing any actual evidence that "proves" that Trump is secretly a CIA deep state triple cross infinity-d chess asset.