The Des Moines Plan

The Sign Man Cometh

I'm David, Topeka Meetup coordinator.

I'm also the one who's selling 1000 stickers for $125 on Ebay. We all know Tom's (RonPaulStickers) is selling them for about the same price but his suck! Just kidding Tom you're doing great work.

Anyway, I'm also the only one who has the cheapest yard/rally signs available on the net. Well I got a call last night from some people who helped organize the KC rally on the 15th and some guy who was working on putting the Iowa deal together. So I've pulled my listings and will bring all the stock of yard/rally signs I have to Iowa with me, and sell them on the cheap the same way I did in KC.

$2.50 for yard sign with stand, $2 for rally sign with stick. Bumper stickers will be different though, 200 for $25. I'm not going to do the 5 for a $1 deal like I was because it takes too long to count out small amounts for everyone.

Right now I only have 200 rally and about 800 yard signs, but I'm going to get on the horn with the printer and see if I can't rush order as many as they can produce by Saturday.

I'd love to just give them away but A. Campaign finance laws prohibit me from giving away more than $2300 worth of crap, and B. I'm too poor to do that anyway.

If you want to see what they look like go to my bumper sticker listing on Ebay (we are ATAGSales, the cool looking ones :D ).

If you need to contact me directly I can be reached at

wizardwatson at g mail dot com.

TTFN
 
DavyDuke17 said:
I don't know how much of this has been planned.. but I think that there needs to be a plan before hand on what all the out-of-state supporters are going to do for the day, because I think they can do better things than actually attend the forum and listen to the other candidates. Now I have never been to Iowa, ran a campaign, ect. so there is absolutely no reason why anyone should listen to me.. but I am going to give my recommendation anyways on how I think you can have the biggest impact.

In the morning, rally outside the forum and meet Iowans as they head in to the forum and tell them about Ron Paul and the free food after it is over at 5 and pass out brochures. That way more Iowans can plan on staying for Paul instead of finding out about it at the last minute and they can read the brochure while they are bored to death by Tommy Thompson.

During the forum I think it would be best for the Ron Paul crowd to hit the streets and canvas the area by visiting houses, rallying at busy intersections and what not. Maybe the Iowa Ron Paul supporters can help them out by directing them through the town.

Then once the forum is drawing to an end go back and hold a rally outside the hall so they can once again see all the Paul supporters and also remind/urge people that are leaving that they can see the Dr. and get free food. Once Paul finishes up with the speech they open the hall up to all the supporters for a huge party to cap off the wonderful day and inspire all the new converts. The faithful Paul supporters can get there chance to meet the guy they've spent all day campaigning for.

I really wish I could go, but I live in New York and am only a poor college student.
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Some great ideas here...thanks for the input. On Saturday I will be working at the Des Moines Arts Festival, it is one of the largest in the nation and will be attended by several thousand Iowa residents. I don't know what the rule is for handing out political literature, but it should be ok....it's a free country, right? The Arts Festival is on the west side of downtown, Hy-Vee Hall is on the east side. Des Moines is not huge...so a fairly medium walk (approx 1 mile) will avail you to both events. Unfortunately since I am a volunteer chariperson with the festival, I will not be able to attend the rally. You have no idea how disappointing this is.

A few comments about Iowans not liking out-of-towners. This is not accurate. Iowans appreciate gaining information, no matter where it comes from, or who provides it. What Iowans don't like are rude and arrogant personalities (I was totally amazed GWB carried the state in '04). I understand the angst potential visitor participants express at not being able to see or hear Ron Paul speak, and I have communicated this to the Iowa Coordinator Joe Seehusen. I traveled to Kansas City to see and hear Dr. Paul and would not have been pleased if it turned out to be exclusive to Missourians.

Ron Paul understands his grassroots effort is the most important asset to his campaign, and I'm sure he will not let you down.
 
The Sign Man Forgeteth to tell you

Should have mentioned, as I told one of the organizers that called me that mostly I just have yard signs. But they are bigger and you can just hold them up with your hand (this is how Obama supporters do it, apparently passing out sticks is too hard for them), store the stand in your vehicle, then after the rally go home and put the sign in your yard.

All for about the cost of 12 oz latte'
 
wizardwatson said:
I'm David, Topeka Meetup coordinator.

Anyway, I'm also the only one who has the cheapest yard/rally signs available on the net. Well I got a call last night from some people who helped organize the KC rally on the 15th and some guy who was working on putting the Iowa deal together. So I've pulled my listings and will bring all the stock of yard/rally signs I have to Iowa with me, and sell them on the cheap the same way I did in KC.
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Hey David! Good to hear you'll be here! I bought a yard sign, a sign, and bumper stickers from you in KC! The yard sign is placed proudly in my yard :D
 
Just read the thread

Don't know all the players, but my vote is for JOHN! Being a meetup organizer myself, I have great sympathy for ANYONE who trys to organize anything. Negative people must make an OVERWHELMING case before I'd give them the time of day. Stay positive folks. We're going all the way!

Nick

P.S. Where's the spell check?
 
DavyDuke17 said:
I posted this in another thread, but I'd like to hear what exactly all the out of state supporters have planned in terms of a schedule because <clip> I think they can do better things than actually attend the forum and listen to the other candidates.
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I think they should go listen to the other candidates, then when the exiting crowd is asked "Who won?" they can all answer "Ron Paul."

Just think about seeing Failor's head explode.
 
Will there be any question/answer interchange with the audience? If so, there might be some opportunity there not to necessarily bring up Ron's name, but...

Okay, if the RP folks can hand out some literature pre-event that stresses Dr. Paul's voting record on tax increasing legislation, then perhaps some of the supporters in the audience could ask specific questions about the participant's own records?

Sort of a way to plant questions into the minds of the Iowans present...pique their curiosity re: Dr. Paul.

Just a thought...
 
MsDoodahs said:
Will there be any question/answer interchange with the audience? If so, there might be some opportunity there not to necessarily bring up Ron's name, but...

Okay, if the RP folks can hand out some literature pre-event that stresses Dr. Paul's voting record on tax increasing legislation, then perhaps some of the supporters in the audience could ask specific questions about the participant's own records?

Sort of a way to plant questions into the minds of the Iowans present...pique their curiosity re: Dr. Paul.

Just a thought...
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I think that's a great idea! And some people might not know RP is not attending and question why he's not there.
 
Even if there are a lot of "out-of-staters" it will at least show that Ron Paul has a good grassroots system at worst.

At best it will illustrate his national presence and will be considered justified due to his absurd exclusion from the forum.
 
Makes me wonder whether we should keep sharing specific battle plans for something like this on a public message board. :confused:
 
ADGettis said:
Have you forgotten that every bit of bad press RP has gotten has only increased his support? The rules of politics don't seem to apply to Dr. Paul because people are used to the slime, but not to the message, and most people who hear his message are instantly won over.

Why don't we show up with the simple goal of holding an informative and fun event, and trust the message do the work it has always done?
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Brilliant. Really. All we have to do is behave ourselves, give one hell of a show of support, and let Dr. Paul and the message of liberty do the rest. This *cannot* come out badly, if we do that. I'm personally ecstatic.
 
Video Cameras

Liberty Eagle,

You read the essence of my post.
We basically need all supporters to bring video cameras.
Borrow them if you have to.....but bring them and "document"
the event.

That's all that needs to be said.
And it should be proclaimed from the rooftops to all attendees.

nuff said. :) :) :cool:
 
Keep Your Cool

Keep your cool, .... keep your cool, keep your cool. No, serioulsy, keep your cool. Remind yourselves, are we on this mesg. board for flame wars, or to further the cause of Ron Paul getting elected? I know, know, ... people write crazy stuff, and we feel it must be adressed. However, these two facts remain: One, that the important thing in the short term is that Iowans get a full dose of Dr. Ron Paul with this forum/rally thing happening. Whatever we can do to attract the average Iowan, be it free food or whatever, we need to do it.
Two, for better or worse, the msm will likely put a lot of emphasis on the Iowa straw poll, and it'd be great if RP had a strong showing. On this, we all can agree. This really is about Iowa, and as a man who was born in Des Moines, and has a lot family from Iowa, I can truly feel the sentiment of ... "why Iowa of all goddamn places..??" But tough, there it is. It has been decreed: Iowa shall be important. Let's do what we can to give Ron a strong showing, and that's that! No need to complicate it further. Again, ...eyes on the prize people.
If anyone else wants to come to Iowa for the rally, well hell, the more the merrier. Just keep in mind what the rally is for, getting Ron Paul some positive attention in the Iowa straw poll, so he can get elected like we all know he should be. :)
 
goldenequity said:
Any suggestions on where/how to post
such concerns?
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I wasn't concerned about what you said. It just got me to thinking about us laying out exactly what our plans are so anyone and everyone could see. IF someone wanted to cause us problems, they'd know right where to go.

There's probably no way to stop it. I was just wondering if we should make it quite so easy is all.

It's probably too late for this event, but we may want to keep it at the back of our mind on the next one.
 
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