the delusional mainstream "GOP" pundits are already re-envisioning the election

We have absolutely no post election strategy to spin the results our way. The GOP pundits are doing their job. We're patting ourselves on the back at RPF and DP and think we are doing something. Call into talk radio. Write a letter to the editor. Do something to get the story out that we were a factor. Or accept the fact that we are our own "media blackout".

I understand the clock is ticking, but if it is gonna be anything like the posts in here and at the dailypaul, it's best to hold onto it for a few moments. There's a lot of hurt, confused people out there right now, and this is literally the only place within the party (not including the fatcats) where people have some kind of an idea what to do next. The message needs to be positive, because they are looking for what to do next- and the TV/radio is making it so bad for them right now that they are turning it off.
 
WE, yes WE can change the narrative by creating a truthful narrative. It will not only put the Republicans on the spot eventually forcing them to either reject the Fed as a Democrat failure or deny the Fed is a problem. That would be a lie on their part of course. As for Democrats, it would force them to either reject it, try to blame it on Republicans or justify it as necessary. I really believe our strategy should be to blame Democrats by association with the Fed and we should do the same thing realtive to foreign policy. After all. It's frigging TRUE. I really believe that by us spreading the truth in subtle ways simply by ALWAYS associating policing the world and debt via the evil Fed with the Democrats it will force the Republicans to embrace at least part of our platform. The two most important parts of it.

This is pretty much the consensus of what we need to do here on this thread and others. We need to get out there and change the narrative to exactly what went on. We don't want another one of these establishment candidates picked from the top by Republican insiders.
 
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Heard Erick Erickson for a few minutes this evening.

From what I heard, he gets it. Romney was no conservative, so conservatives stayed home. Simple. No need to move further left. Just stand up for what you're supposed to believe in.
Strange stuff from the guy who bans Ron Paul supporters on sight at his site.
 
Limbaugh is attempting already to re-envision the elections and the candidates who took part.



So now the delusion of a grandeur "Mitt Romney and his family" being the the great hope America should have had is being used to cover up the sore losers' failed policies and truly progressive nature.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/11/07/in_a_nation_of_children_santa_claus_wins

While the election loss is fresh in peoples minds, I think it is a good idea right now to comment everywhere about how liberal Romney is and to just totally destroy his reputation of being that false "conservative" that he is.I see that people are already trying to claim that Mitt Romney was some sort of great conservative, and its revisionist.


Mitt Romney was not an american messiah, and he definitely wasn't a conservative. Romney was just a progressive who offered the U.S. a progressive vision, and non-traditional values.

I have to agree with Rush on this. Romney was a great candidate and the electorate decided to be angry peasants.

Saying Romney is liberal is honestly, fucking retarded, and is partially the reason the GOP never wanted to accept Ron Paul supporters. That, and that the GOP is deluded thinking the evangelicals are the key to success, when in fact they destroyed the party and let the crazies like Michelle Bachmann get some limelight during the primaries.

Let's look at the primaries: you had 3 intelligent conservative nominees: Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, and Mitt Romney. The rest were utter complete jokes, especially Herman Cain who I now think the media falsely called his frontrunner status as a way of making the GOP look like a joke. 2011's primary candidates were so laughable that I feel I could never register republican even though I will generally vote along those lines.

Huntsman was intelligent but after him or his buddies called up their media pals for the whole youtube shit his daughters made I now understand why he was considered liberal.

And the GOP doesn't get it because they now think any support is good support. But they think the crazies are needed to win, so the insiders already know they want Romney (establishment, more safe bet, pragmatic, etc) to win while throwing the bones to idiots thinking they'll get the dumbasses to say, "hey, I like this guy, but if he doesn't win I'm still gonna vote republican!"

The strategy for conservatives now is going to be a lot more rough. Hopefully Rand Paul can bridge the right-libertarian/GOP divide in 2016, because he too would be a great candidate, if it isn't too late.
 
I don't think I'm alone in knowing the difference between a traditional conservative and a neoconservative all for lack of better labels. As for labels, there is a myriad of them to define, or, try to define what groups of people have in common. The way I see it, the Republicans are going through an identity crises right now and they don't even know what a "conservative" is anymore. Consider their rejection of Ron Paul's foreign policy; they said he's more "liberal" than Barack Obama. WTF? OK,, most if not all of us who support Ron Paul know that it was progressives like Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt and McKinley who started our country on a path toward globalism, empire, interventionism and, meddling in the affairs of other countries, and, it was the traditional conservatives who always opposed it. As the years progressed, progresssivism took a stronger hold within the GOP until they were finally full blown interventionists under Bush 41 but, instead of calling them progressives, we started to call them new style conservatives (neoconservatives). So while Ron Paul is more closely likened to the "old right", which were anti-interventionism and in strong opposition to the constant wars of Democrats and, their Republican neo-conservative counter-parts, the entire narrative has been altered, twisted and distorted from the original position of Republicans which like the founding fathers, were non-interventionist. Somehow, that became "isolationism" during the Wilson administration;another false narrative. Americans now believe that if we don't meddle in the affairs of every other country and, act like an empire and police the entire world, and, maintain over 700 military bases in 140 different countries then, the only other alternative is to completely isolate our country from the world? WTF? We who are active have wittnessed otherwise intelligent people buy into stupid narratives before but, this one is near the top in my opinion.
The war on drugs is another issue where a modern false narrative has been created to distort true positions and confuse either the issue itself or, the people who view the issue. That too was brought to us by progressive during the Wilson administration while the old right, or traditional conservatives strongly opposed it. Of course Ron Paul is a traditional conservative member of the old right realtive to this issues as well, but in today's rhetoric, they labels him a liberal. Meanwhile these false narratives divide people along imaginary lines of demarcation an dput them on the worng side. Example, is Chrisitans who supposedly follow the Prince of Peace, supporting every war mongerer that runs for office as a Republican. Now, they are "pro-life" and "pro-war" and they don't recognize how they have been manipulated by false narratives into violating their core beliefs.

I think we can take back the labels. Whoever wears their false label can have it ripped from their neck if we play this right. Looking back from the progressive movement all through our history and how the Republicans have slowly morphed into progressives it easy to see that the reason people hate them, is because they ain't acting like themselves. The GOP Is now that guy in a mustach wearing a wedding gown. It just don't look right and people don't know exactly why but, the dude looks like a lady.

There are a host of issues that, a certain position is attributed to Republicans (read conservatives, read neoconservatives, read progressive Republicans) that are actually originally the positions held by progressive Democrats. (read, collectivists, socialists, communists). These issues in my opinion have taken us far away from the Constitutional positions that we Ron Paul supporters hold as "conservative" but somehow we get labeled as liberals becuase the people don't know the history, or the Constitution.

Who writes laws today that deprive the American people of their essential freedom of choice? Liberal Democrats! They have ALWAYS done that including the war on drugs started with passage of the 18th Amendment which didn't ban just alcohol, but with it, a whole list of drugs that were formerlly legal. Guess what else that did, (besides create a crime culture and cost us many freedoms)? It got us dependant on oil as our country's primary fuel for transpportation. Up until passage of the 18th, most people used alcohol to power up their cars. John D Rockefeller had a waste by-product in the production of kerosene called gasoline that he was throwing away because there was little use for it until they realized that cars (duel fuel back then) could be powered up so he funded progressive women's groups and other orginizations to foment anti alcohol sentiment which lead to the 18th Amendment.

In fact, if we look at just baout every major problem this country faces right now, the policies that are depriving us of our choices, robbing us of our freedom, driving us into debt and causing us to be in constant wars are ALL brought to us by progressive Democrats.

First time going to war without a declaration. Truman. They were the party in power during WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia, Somalia and on and on and on.
They brought us the Federal Reserve, the IRS, Socialist Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Dept of Education, Dept of Agriculture, Dept of Energy, Dept of Housing,. Just for those programs ALONE there is a $68 TRILLION unfunded liability and then, ad to that the $16 TRILLION we owe to the Fed and the $1Trillion every year we spend on policing the world, and it was Democrats whi did ALL of it to us.

But we can't go around acting like we would overnight take all those programs away from the people who are dependent on them, but we can go right to the cornerstone of EVERY SINGLE ISSUE and the ONE THING that holds them all up. The ONE Bill that changed the entire country. The Federal Reserve. THAT is the starting point. From the moment they took control of our money supply ALL the other programs, policies, positions, changes, alterations and failures emerged.

It BELONGS to Democrats and them only and we need to ALWAYS attach "Democrat" to "Federal Reserve" and to "Debt". DO it when you talk to your family and friends. Do it on Face Book and Twitter and other networks. Do it when you call into radio programs and taki to "conservaitve" talk show hosts. Do it in church, school, out on the street. That is OUR narrative and it's the truth. It will rip the wedding dress off the guy with the mustach and he will start to look like himself again.
 
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I have to agree with Rush on this. Romney was a great candidate and the electorate decided to be angry peasants.

Saying Romney is liberal is honestly, fucking retarded, and is partially the reason the GOP never wanted to accept Ron Paul supporters.

Romney was not a great candidate. A great candidate would have been able to easily win against the worst president in the history of America. Romney was a joke of a candidate and even the GOP didn't want him until after he cheated, lied, and stole the primary from Ron Paul. Then the Republicans were all like GOOOOOO Red Team! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! Yeah! Romney blew it every time he opened his mouth and changed his position with the direction of the wind at the moment. Romney has no principles.

And the reason the GOP did not want Ron Paul is because Ron Paul wants the Federal Reserve to be audited. The Red Team establishment whores don't want any part of that. The GOP establishment wanted Obama.
 
The GoP is a private entity selling a product. They have a large and loyal customer base. You will not take over the company because they can and will change the rules or ostracize you in a heartbeat. The company men like the paycheck they're getting and will not rock the boat, they will actively fight anybody who jeopardizes their livlihood.
 
The GoP is a private entity selling a product. They have a large and loyal customer base. You will not take over the company because they can and will change the rules or ostracize you in a heartbeat. The company men like the paycheck they're getting and will not rock the boat, they will actively fight anybody who jeopardizes their livlihood.
Well just like they can say that non interventionism is equal to isolationism we can attribute the debt created by the Fed to Democrats
 
I would say more but...

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...I don't think its necessary.
 
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