THE DEFINITIVE THREAD Breaking-Santorum calls news conference for 2:00 Is he dropping?

[tremendoustie]

I know strategically perhaps I should be unhappy about this, but I'm still glad Santorum is gone.

 

[freedomordeath]

This was to be expected, those that have poppped the red pill will know this is an illusion or creating the perception that this is a credible nomination process. The straw polls are controlled where it matters (not every State will be in on the fix). The one thing they cannot fake though is the delegate process, but here we see they use strong arm tactics. In North Dakota you saw their tactics. Ron Paul did not have 2/3rds (66%) to get the rules changed and the GOP shamelessly through confusion pushed through their slate, you probably find 40-45% of the support in that room was for Ron Paul, yet that only resulted in 2 delegates out of 25. But the fact remains the Diebold machines can't keep this process secret.

What you have to ask yourself is freedom or death, basically carry on till the end, DO NOT GIVE IN, so carry on voting, be delegates... then we all goto TAMPA and try bring over a million poeple to Tampa. The police said that they will not let anyone sleep in the parks, to hell with the police if we have over a million poeple, we'll crash in the parks and let the establishment know (both democrats and republicans, miltary and media industrial complex) that this is a revolution that will suceed.

IF Tampa fails, then RP can with evidance of election fraud run for 3rd party and be justified in doing so on the basis that the GOP acted in bad faith in what was supposed to be a fair process. This can be done with honour and integrity because we have the evidance. We as supporters when the time is right after the Tampa process ask RP to run 3rd party if need be.

 

[Hendrik]

I just say PERFECT!
If Romney declared winner now by MSM, lots of his people will not go voting. This could lose Romney Texas and as Santorum will keep his delegates, + Newt prevailing in the South => Romney will miss 1144 1st ballot.

Remember Santorum was designed to block Paul. Recently he started to block Romney and his folks teaming up with RP. Thats why he had to go now. But it shows that GOP leaders are out of control. They planned to have Santorum in it til the end. They now pulled him earlier than planned. They didn't want to have RP one on one with Romney but couldn't leave it that way Santa stealing big amounts of delegates from Romney. They ran into their own trap recently.

Now they have to black out RP because naturally he should get much more focus.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Well, Newt seems to think that Santorum was a conservative:

I'd laugh at the idea that Newt thinks himself a conservative, but I'm not going to laugh because I suspect that people will believe him.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Hope the campaign revamps the TX ad to focus just on Romney. Also, we all need to keep promoting the 4-15-12 moneybomb to gather the cheese to air the new ad.

 

[CTRattlesnake]

What happens to Santorum's delegates?

Are they all released and unbound now?

 

[devil21]

I dont think this is a bad thing at all for RP.

1) Texas just became a lot more winnable without Santorum pulling the evangelicals.
2) Texas ad campaign perfect timing, moneybomb to keep Ron campaigning.
3) With the huge amount of state and district conventions left, will Santorum supporters still show up? If not, it makes our odds of winning delegates better.
4) If they do, they'll be looking for a new candidate and Romney probably isn't it, except to the establishment types that just support whoever the leadership says to.

I don't like how the media will try to coronate Romney the nominee but that doesn't hurt our behind-the-scenes plan anyway.

 

[tbone717]

Technically bound since he suspended. Most state laws they remain bound unless a candidate drops out. Santorum won't officially drop out until Romney is a lock, IMO.

 

[twofootzero]

Well, Newt seems to think that Santorum was a conservative:

I'd laugh at the idea that Newt thinks himself a conservative, but I'm not going to laugh because I suspect that people will believe him.

WTH? It looks like his head is chopped onto a Borg body. And why is he in handcuffs?

 

[RDM]

“Rick, I know the decision was difficult to make. Thank you for running a great campaign and spreading your message of faith, family and freedom. You have truly inspired many across the country. God bless you and your family.“ – Sam Rohrer

who here said Rohrer was our guy in PA? I doubt he would release such a statement if Paul dropped out. Seals up my vote for Scaringi

Rohrer showed his true colors there. Dang, I liked that guy too. Not anymore.

 

[truthspeaker]

TEXANS UNITE!

We'll really then have to go around campaigning otherwise Grinrich will get that conservative vote. I've heard so many people say I like RP, but I'll vote for Santorum/Grinrich.

This is where I say we need to rubberband specific campaign brochures on Texan issues such as gun rights, pro-life, etc (avoid drug-war). Next put them on every GOP door.

We can do this, but it'll be hard work.

 

[Hendrik]

I don't agree RP should now attack Romney. Keep the soft tone! Romney will keep making mistakes, he is unelectable. Ron Paul shouldn't expose himself too much now. Offense winning games, defense winning championships. Just let Romney further disqualify himself and the rest will happen automatically. Keep amassing delegates, this will be easier now for RP.

Santorum already should have 340 delegates. Projecting final 300 for Newt, requires us to have 500 RP delegates in Tampa to survive 1st ballot. One thing for sure: Texas is the key.

 

[tbone717]

Rohrer showed his true colors there. Dang, I liked that guy too. Not anymore.

Seriously? So you don't like a guy who has a very consistent record in PA because he releases a conciliatory statement when a fellow PA resident drops out of the race? Didn't Ron wish Perry well when he dropped out?

 

[kathy88]

The problem with this line of reasoning is that it just makes assumptions based on increasingly unlikely events. The crowds at the pep rallies don't translate at the ballot boxes, I don't know why people still don't understand this. The only thing the media will notice, which they are already mentioning in EVERY article, is that the "other rans" Gingrich and Paul now have zero chance and this thing is all over. People will buy it hook line and sinker. So what you call doomsday, I call reality. I don't like it, but it is what it is.

The bottom line is Ron has to do something to make himself relevent right this minute. The grassroots can't do it for him, the media won't do it for him, he has to do it. He also has to attack Romney like he's done to others. So far he's been unwilling to do either.

I'm not so sure about that. Because they have mentioned on every major outlet that Grinch and Ron are still in it, I think a lot of people may think to themselves, wait, he's still in? Why don't we hear about that? Why are they telling us what to do and who to vote for? I ran into a man in Subway yesterday, had to be in his mid 70s. We started talking about the weather, and ended up by the time we were done, this man was going to tell EVERYONE he knew that Ron was still in (he really didn't know). He was saying things to me like, "all my friends love Ron Paul, but we thought he dropped out" and "I think there's dirty politics going on, we've been told he's out by party people" By the end of it, he shared some conspiracy theories with me I hadn't even heard

 

[PolicyReader]

Technically bound since he suspended. Most state laws they remain bound unless a candidate drops out. Santorum won't officially drop out until Romney is a lock, IMO.

I concur, and that's good for us as far as it goes. Santorums unbound delegates and state delegates become in interesting question indeed at this point.
We really need to be reaching out to them as well as gunning hard for mitt (it's not like there's any shortage of factual material on romney, it's high time we used it)

 

[Aratus]

BIG DIG, yes...

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Ron Paul will be my American Boy.

 

[amberjack]

Rohrer showed his true colors there. Dang, I liked that guy too. Not anymore.

“Congratulations to Senator Santorum on running such a spirited campaign. Dr. Paul is now the last – and real – conservative alternative to Mitt Romney. We plan to continue running hard, secure delegates, and press the fight for limited, constitutional government in Tampa.” -Jesse Benton

 

[kathy88]

Yeah...if only we had a few "experts" in charge to tell us what to do. Then we'd have a much better chance!

Sorry, that was a bit fececious. This is a grassroots movement, isn't it? Why would that change now? That should be one of our strengths, not weaknesses. His current campaign (and you guys) got him to this point. Why change direction? His crowds are only growing, despite the lack of media coverage.

I see this as a catalyst (in our favor).

Pay no mind. I think he gets paid to campaign bash.

 

[LCG8928]

Did we get any stealth delegates in with Santorum? If we did they will come into play at the convention.