The bourgeoisie define labor unions; the proletariat get blamed for their corruption

Conza88 said:
Can I get some examples / evidence of unions trying to get public property back to the people... :confused:
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Public property is where the Unions vend their product. Company property was for company business. Public property right outside the company became the battle ground between the nosey companies trying to prevent THE PEOPLE from organizing to enact economic policies in regards to their own best interests. Unions, the people, won that battle. So, one can peacefully assemble to sell Union goods just as people can sell girlscout cookies on the sidewalk or companies can place news racks on a sidewalk as long as they don't prohibit flow of traffic.
This was a great victory for THE PEOPLE versus THE KING in regards to who owns public property.
 
Truth Warrior said:
And you clearly don't understand that it is. ;)

Filter # 1: Clear out the bullshit. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bullshit

:D
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A dictionary is something that has to be formulated. Socrates invented that formulation yet he did not write and probably didn't read. One doesn't need a dictionary to learn definitions. Oops! How is this possible? How was Socrates developing definition without owning a dictionary? Oops. Please, try thinking for a change rather than posting poison.
 
Uncle Emanuel Watkins said:
A dictionary is something that has to be formulated. Socrates invented that formulation yet he did not write and probably didn't read. One doesn't need a dictionary to learn definitions. Oops! How is this possible? How was Socrates developing definition without owning a dictionary? Oops. Please, try thinking for a change rather than posting poison.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Socrates

Screw you! I'll post what I damned well please. :p :rolleyes:

"A problem well defined is half solved."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dictionary

http://www.reference.com/search?q=dictionary

"When words lose their meaning, people will lose their liberty." -- Confucius
 
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Uncle Emanuel Watkins said:
Public property is where the Unions vend their product. Company property was for company business. Public property right outside the company became the battle ground between the nosey companies trying to prevent THE PEOPLE from organizing to enact economic policies in regards to their own best interests. Unions, the people, won that battle. So, one can peacefully assemble to sell Union goods just as people can sell girlscout cookies on the sidewalk or companies can place news racks on a sidewalk as long as they don't prohibit flow of traffic.
This was a great victory for THE PEOPLE versus THE KING in regards to who owns public property.
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Who owns public property? The public. Who represents them - the politicians. i.e The state. They make the laws, not the people.

Oh WOOOp de DOOOO footpaths:rolleyes: Unions often want rises to the minimum wage. Anyway; can I get a more EVIDENCE based example / links... :confused: you know; I was hoping for historical accounts etc. :rolleyes: And wth you talking about the King? It ain't a monarchy.
 
Every system where there is a little power, and a little money also has a little corruption. That doesn't make it right, but it does make it a fact of life. We should take every opportunity to route corruption wherever we find it, but its asinine to avoid a system just because it may or may not some day be subject to some degree of corruption. Its up to individuals to be vigilant, skeptical, and honest in order to prevent and fight corruption wherever it grows.

The Labor Union like just about everything else in American society has been twisted and perverted by excessive government intervention. When i speak of Unionization, I don't mean these labor unions that go way too far and abuse their clout by subjecting corporations, and even small business owners, to ridiculous and irrational rules and regulations.

When i speak of unionization I'm talking about the essential role of the union, ensuring work place safety, and negotiating the value of labor. Also, I don't think the Government should have to recognise a union. if my four coworkers and I can reach a consensus on what we believe is fair and enter into negotiations with our employer to reach those ends, that should be enough. There doesn't even have to be a permanent organization set in place.
 
revolutionman said:
Every system where there is a little power, and a little money also has a little corruption. That doesn't make it right, but it does make it a fact of life. We should take every opportunity to route corruption wherever we find it, but its asinine to avoid a system just because it may or may not some day be subject to some degree of corruption. Its up to individuals to be vigilant, skeptical, and honest in order to prevent and fight corruption wherever it grows.

The Labor Union like just about everything else in American society has been twisted and perverted by excessive government intervention. When i speak of Unionization, I don't mean these labor unions that go way too far and abuse their clout by subjecting corporations, and even small business owners, to ridiculous and irrational rules and regulations.

When i speak of unionization I'm talking about the essential role of the union, ensuring work place safety, and negotiating the value of labor. Also, I don't think the Government should have to recognise a union. if my four coworkers and I can reach a consensus on what we believe is fair and enter into negotiations with our employer to reach those ends, that should be enough. There doesn't even have to be a permanent organization set in place.
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Any "system" dependent on human reliability is inherently unreliable. ;)
 
Truth Warrior said:
Any "system" dependent on human reliability is inherently unreliable. ;)
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Truth Warrior,

Slogans only get you so far.

I ran a business for 15 years.

My employees we're my # 1 asset.

Put on a blue singlet and have a go.

Otherwise put up or shut up.

Hypocrite.
 
Ozwest said:
Truth Warrior,

Slogans only get you so far.

I ran a business for 15 years.

My employees we're my # 1 asset.

Put on a blue singlet and have a go.

Otherwise put up or shut up.

Hypocrite.
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I am NOT the thread topic EITHER.

Get a fricken' clue!!!!! :p :rolleyes:
 
Uncle Emanuel Watkins said:
I know that there has been talk of Marxism lately, beloved forum members, I guess in regards to how that particular political philosophy fits in with the Ron Paul revolution. For all the young Marxists out there, I have a question:

People tend to think that Unions were created as institutions of the proletariat when, because they own the means of production, the bourgeoisie stepped in to to appease the movement. It is the appeasement that establishes the Union, not the protests of the proletariat; yet, the proletariat get blamed for its corruption.

Please comment.
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How very European of you to ask.

Marxism, like all the other "isms", fails because it ignores the primacy of the individual.

Arguing the finer points, is not unlike arguing about what type of wax to use to glue your feather wings together to fly to the moon.
 
This is not the Model T factory.

Skilled workers are to be appreciated, and treated with respect.
 
Why the fuck do I buy tools I use everyday from America, and one-off tools from China?

For the same reason you guys do.

U,S. steel and craftmanship rock!
 
I believe in Cummins, not Kubota.

Cummins diesel may me noisier, but they are torquey as shit.
 
Parts and longevity of U.S. made heavy equipment beats the Europeans and the Japanese 9 out of 10 times.

The honda 5 horsepower motor being the exception. :D
 
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