The Bloody Road out of Iowa and the Icey Finger of Blame

Spirit of '76

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Last night we all watched as our expectations were crushed in Iowa, and today everyone is asking, "Why did it happen like this? Who is to blame?"

People are casting around and throwing aspersions on all and sundry, from the campaign staff to the media to the voters of Iowa. But no one is willing to address the most pertinent question of all -- what could we, the grassroots, have done differently? No one seems willing to engage in a little introspection and see where our fault lies.

Sure, the campaign bears some blame. We've all heard the horror stories about how they don't effectively exploit the media, don't actively court big name endorsements, don't coordinate well enough with the grassroots, and all that.

Ron himself bears some of the blame for not holding his staff more accountable for the poor performance thus far, for not working hard enough to streamline his presentation, for not spending enough time on the trail shaking hands and making his case to people besides his already die-hard supporters, and more.

But how many times have we in the grassroots found ourselves saying, "If we win it will be in spite of the campaign staff, not because of them! If we win it will because of us"?

Well, last night shows us just how far We the People still have to go. Last night exposes so many of our weaknesses. Last night gives us cause to look at ourselves for once and try to figure out where we went wrong.


I watched these forums last night as the results rolled in and our spirits fell, and what I saw shocked me. I read with dismay the comments of many posters on this board, and only shook my head at the naivete and anti-social attitudes on display here.

And no, I'm not talking about the "OMGZ! It's all over! I give up!" posts. I'm talking about the ones where people were cursing the voters of Iowa and blaming them for our failure.

I watched people ranting about "stupid cornfed hicks ruining everything". Well, guess what! "Cornfed hicks" vote too. They always have, and usually in much greater numbers than our current support base of young suburbanites. Moreover, most rural voters haven't even heard of Ron Paul, because they don't spend all damned day on the internet or sipping Starbucks in some trendy wifi hotspot.

They are the working people who make up the backbone of this nation, and indeed of the Republican Party, whose nomination we are trying to win, and if you want to win this thing you'd better drop the superiority complex and start courting them.

Even worse, I watched agape as people ranted about our elders, who have always been the people who are most politically active, saying idiotic things like, "I fucking hate old people", and "look at all these damned old people OMG".

Let me tell you something: If you didn't know that the elderly were going to turn out to vote on election day, you must have been living in a fucking cave all your life. It is axiomatic in politics that college students make a big noise and get in everyone's face in the run up to election day, but then sit on their asses when the time comes, whereas the elderly quietly go about their business, letting the politicians come to them, and then roll out on election day and decide who wins and who loses.

And if you think you can bring them around to our guy with an "I fucking hate old people" attitude, you are severely deluded and are no help at all to our cause.

Yeah, I've heard all the arguments about how old people are just selfish and looking out for themselves and their social security checks, and I tell you right now that it's bullshit. Those kinds of remarks come from the same people who "fucking hate old people" and think we can rely on college kids to get and vote for us.

If you want to win this thing, you'd better start showing some respect for the people who actually vote. You'd better become 'that nice young man who held the door for me and gave me this Ron Paul flier.'

But most important of all, so many people here think we can rely on Independents and crossover Democrats to win this thing for us, and last night just goes to show that type of thinking is idiocy.

This is a Republican primary, and it will be decided by Republicans. Sure, I welcome all the crossover and Indy support we can get. We love you guys and you're sorely needed, but we have to face the facts -- you cannot win this election for us all on your own.

Too many of you out there are living in a fucking fantasy land if you think we can win the Republican primary by just doing our own thing, looking down our noses at the average Republican, calling him a "rethug" or a "repug", and screaming "Neocon!!!!!" at everyone who questions or disagrees with us.

I guarantee that most of those people caucusing last night had never met a real life Ron Paul supporter before, and probably half of them had never even heard of Ron Paul. Why is that? Is it a failure of the campaign? Is it the fault of the media? Of course, but only in part.

We should know by now that we cannot expect the media to help get our message out there. We can't expect the campaign to do it for us, either. What we have to do, if we want to win the Republican nomination, is take over the whole damned Party, and we ain't going to do that on the Internet.

How many of you -- be honest -- have actually attended a Republican Party meeting or event in your area? How many of you introduced yourselves to the GOP officials in your county? How many of you have volunteered to be a precinct captain or a poll worker? How many of you have actually marched into the lions' den and made the case for Daniel?

Not enough of you, I guarantee it.

I'm telling you now. We will never win this thing unless more of you put your prejudices aside, put on a decent shirt and a tie, and go show the Republican Party activists in your area that Ron Paul supporters are real people with real concerns and real conservative values. Show them that we are the future of the Party and that they need to get on board with us if they expect to win the general election or maintain any shred of relevance in the coming years.

It's far too easy to look at them and make excuses and blame them for our apparent lack of success than it is to look at ourselves and ask, "What could I do to bring these people around?"

But the answer is easy, and it just starts with introducing yourself. I don't care what your background is or what feelings you've had for the Republican Party until this point. The fact is that we're not going to win the Republican primary without courting the Republican voters, so you'd better hold your nose and take the plunge.
 
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Dont think too much into it.

The Liberal and Conservative media is to blame. They pushed for a huckabee win.

Democrats want huckabee to win because he has the most dirt. The Glass Jaw!

The only issue Mike has going for him is his religion. And the conservative media picked up on it.

But after that he has jack shit to win on.

The dems will win by a huge margin if he wins the nomination.
 
Dont think too much into it.

The Liberal and Conservative media is to blame. They pushed for a huckabee win.

Democrats want huckabee to win because he has the most dirt. The Glass Jaw!

The only issue Mike has going for him is his religion. And the conservative media picked up on it.

But after that he has jack shit to win on.

The dems will win by a huge margin if he wins the nomination.

We all knew Huckabee would win Iowa. That was given, and it's not going to help much anywhere else, since he's put all his eggs in that one basket.

The real fight was for 3rd, and we got out asses handed to us by McCain and Fred Thompson. Fred fucking Thompson!

We have to look at ourselves and see what we can do better before we start blaming everyone else for being stupid brainwashed sheep. Even if they are stupid brainwashed sheep, we're not going to wake them up by sitting around and bitching about it.
 
There are many factors involved. Some of those factors: Religious zeal of candidate, support of subsidies, are things that can't prop a candidate up in both Iowa and the rest of the country at the same time.

People will try to figure out what "went wrong", but it isn't always the case that things could have turned out differently without effecting everything else.
 
We might also be forgetting about the "he can't win" vote. Which means that there might be a whole lot of voters out there who thought we were a Kucinich. A few new posters last night made that case. Maybe a lot of people thought we were in the same league as Keyes and Hunter, but we are not.
 
Guys, quit this crap. Quit it now.

I spoke with someone in the campaign today on the phone, and he told me why we didn't finish third. If you want to know the reason, PM me.
 
What we have to do, if we want to win the Republican nomination, is take over the whole damned Party, and we ain't going to do that on the Internet.

How many of you -- be honest -- have actually attended a Republican Party meeting or event in your area? How many of you introduced yourselves to the GOP officials in your county? How many of you have volunteered to be a precinct captain or a poll worker? How many of you have actually marched into the lions' den and made the case for David?

Not enough of you, I guarantee it.

I'm telling you now. We will never win this thing unless more of you put your prejudices aside, put on a decent shirt and a tie, and go show the Republican Party activists in your area that Ron Paul supporters are real people with real concerns and real conservative values.

There have been some bad posts and good posts in the last few days, this is an excellent post. Its time to stop whining, roll up our sleeves and get to work.!!!
 
well we cant win without winning any early states unless he plans on going third party towards the end.


Its called momentum. We will be ignored till the end if this does not happen and we will not gain one vote.


WE HAVE TO WIN ONE EARLY STATE. or we're screwed.
 
We were 3% away from being 3rd in IOWA. Think about that for a second. In IOWA!!!
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Yes, that is amazing! Even the MSM recognize this fact. We did a good job, but we can always be better. And we will be better! This is going to be a hard battle, but we can make it. Moore boots on the ground is would help us for sure.
 
I think every single whiner needs to be tied to a chair with a gun to their head and this thread printed and pasted on their face for at least 6 hours.

Never give more than a shallow victory to the opponent. You lose only when you surrender.
 
well we cant win without winning any early states unless he plans on going third party towards the end.


Its called momentum. We will be ignored till the end if this does not happen and we will not gain one vote.


WE HAVE TO WIN ONE EARLY STATE. or we're screwed.

And since when did anyone think it would be IA? Mccain got 4-5% of the vote in IA in 2000 and still won NH so everyone calm down. Its also not even the end of the world if we don't win NH.... we just need to keep slowly building strength and support and momentum... the other candidates will start to drop off
 
I interpret the data differently. Know who your audience is! It's people who can't stand Bush, and are younger disaffected voters. The older people in general, like the status quo and will pick a status quo candidate. Its a fact. You can't squeeze blood out of stone. Obama was better in organizing the vote. He delivered. He also has the media on his side. We don't, so its an uphill battle. There are still plenty of untapped independents and disenfranchised voters.
 
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And since when did anyone think it would be IA? Mccain got 4-5% of the vote in IA in 2000 and still won NH so everyone calm down. Its also not even the end of the world if we don't win NH.... we just need to keep slowly building strength and support and momentum... the other candidates will start to drop off

Well i was hoping for a 3rd place finish.

I knew it wasnt going to be IOWA. But we need to place higher in the next few states and WIN ONE.


If you think we can win the nomination by placing third, fourth or fifth in every early state your living in a fantasy world brother.

We need the early states so we can pick up momentum and capture those undecided and independent votes.
 
There are still plenty of untapped independents and disenfranchised voters.

Yeah, but in many cases it's too late for them to switch parties and participate in a Republican primary.

Sure, NH is different, and Indies in NH are our bread and butter, but Iowa was the Lines at Torres Vedras, NH is Badajoz, and it's a long, long road to Waterloo.
 
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