The anti War candidate launches full scale attack on Yemen.

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[nikcers]

Looks like this is just a preemptive strike because the Houthi announced they would start attacking our commercial shipping a couple days ago. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

 

[spudea]

They are literally pirate thugs, holding ransom the most important shipping route in the world. Surely the response is not to do nothing? Or maybe just have Congress authorize the military action?

 

[nikcers]

They are literally pirate thugs, holding ransom the most important shipping route in the world. Surely the response is not to do nothing? Or maybe just have Congress authorize the military action?

Congress doesn't technically have to authorize the strikes against Yemen. It would send a clear message if they did though.

They announced that they would be attacking our ships a couple days ago. The navy exists to protect our ships and our access to trade with our trading partners.

It would be too little too late to wait for them to attack us.

Yemen's Houthi rebels say 'any Israeli vessel' in nearby Mideast waterways again a target

Yemen’s Houthi rebels have warned shippers that “any Israeli vessel” traveling through nearby Mideast waters is now a target as Israel continues to block aid to the Gaza Strip.

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the Houthis began striking Israel-linked ships in the strategic Bab el-Mandeb Strait along Yemen’s coast. Those attacks expanded to include other ships with no ties to Israel, disrupting cargo and energy shipments that are critical for worldwide trade.

 

[unknown]

Congress doesn't technically have to authorize the strikes against Yemen. It would send a clear message if they did though.

They announced that they would be attacking our ships a couple days ago. The navy exists to protect our ships and our access to trade with our trading partners.

It would be too little too late to wait for them to attack us.

Yemen's Houthi rebels say 'any Israeli vessel' in nearby Mideast waterways again a target

Yemen’s Houthi rebels have warned shippers that “any Israeli vessel” traveling through nearby Mideast waters is now a target as Israel continues to block aid to the Gaza Strip.

apnews.com

the Houthis began striking Israel-linked ships in the strategic Bab el-Mandeb Strait along Yemen’s coast. Those attacks expanded to include other ships with no ties to Israel, disrupting cargo and energy shipments that are critical for worldwide trade.

Not for nothin but this Houthi shit seems sus AF.

From the article, the source is "the Houthis’ Humanitarian Operations Coordination Center".

Where are these statements made?

WTF is the Humanitarian Center?

Is there any verifiable source for any of these alleged statements?

Do they have an embassy or consulate somewhere?

And then we're told that they're pirates, according to who? Our government?

This is a country that is incredibly poor with very few if any military resources.

They have small arms, rifles.

And our government has been bombing them periodically since 9/11, every few months.

Very reminiscent of the WMD lies except we were actually able to see and hear a response from Iraq/Saddam etc, saying we were full of shit.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If you don't stomp out the pirates it will turn into a full blown regional war that we will be drawn into.
That is Iran's intent and why Biden pulled his punches.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Not for nothin but this Houthi shit seems sus AF.

From the article, the source is "the Houthis’ Humanitarian Operations Coordination Center".

Where are these statements made?

WTF is the Humanitarian Center?

Is there any verifiable source for any of these alleged statements?

Do they have an embassy or consulate somewhere?

And then we're told that they're pirates, according to who? Our government?

This is a country that is incredibly poor with very few if any military resources.

They have small arms, rifles.

And our government has been bombing them periodically since 9/11, every few months.

Very reminiscent of the WMD lies except we were actually able to see and hear a response from Iraq/Saddam etc, saying we were full of shit.

Since it seems to have escaped your notice, they have been attacking ships and damaging or sinking them.

 

[unknown]

They are literally the poorest country in the world.

And the United States (government) is bombing them... because they're a "threat".

I mean JFC.

How's this any better than Izrael genociding Palestinians and Syrians...

This is so fucking bad.

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"It is currently experiencing one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises.

"Furthermore, Yemen faces limitations from declining revenues from relatively small oil and gas reserves and has struggled with a rapidly growing population and political instability.

"Millions of Yemenis lack access to basic necessities, such as clean water, adequate food, and healthcare, placing them in a precarious and life-threatening situation.

"This places Yemen at the precipice of becoming, or having already become, the poorest country in the world."

 

[Swordsmyth]

They are literally the poorest country in the world.

And the United States (government) is bombing them...

I mean JFC.

How's this any better than Izrael genociding Palestinians and Syrians...

This is so fucking bad.

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"It is currently experiencing one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises.

"Furthermore, Yemen faces limitations from declining revenues from relatively small oil and gas reserves and has struggled with a rapidly growing population and political instability.

"Millions of Yemenis lack access to basic necessities, such as clean water, adequate food, and healthcare, placing them in a precarious and life-threatening situation.

"This places Yemen at the precipice of becoming, or having already become, the poorest country in the world."

Maybe they should stop being terrorist/pirate proxies for Iran.

 

[nikcers]

Not for nothin but this Houthi shit seems sus AF.

From the article, the source is "the Houthis’ Humanitarian Operations Coordination Center".

Where are these statements made?

WTF is the Humanitarian Center?

Is there any verifiable source for any of these alleged statements?

Do they have an embassy or consulate somewhere?

And then we're told that they're pirates, according to who? Our government?

This is a country that is incredibly poor with very few if any military resources.

They have small arms, rifles.

And our government has been bombing them periodically since 9/11, every few months.

Very reminiscent of the WMD lies except we were actually able to see and hear a response from Iraq/Saddam etc, saying we were full of shit.

They have been attacking commercial ships and killing civilians so they don't need really advanced military equipment. 50 year old Soviet era weapons would work.

They are also part of a military alliance with the theocracy of Iran. They support them with weapons they use to attack commercial shipping.

 

[sparebulb]

Unit 8200 is very strong in this thread.

And the new site is slowing down after their talking points are made.

Coincidence?

 

[Snowball]

Guys. Get With The Program.

1) Reason Trump bombs Houthis now? To prep the ground for Israeli assaults on Gaza and West Bank
2) To weaken Iran's resolve to defend the Resistance wherever it is still supplied and break down those supply lines
3) Yemen being Phase 3 after Hezbollah and Assad
4) IDF has 400k troops, mostly reservists and mostly inside Israel for the Gaza Campaign resumption
5) Israel stocked with fresh loads of American bombs for Gaza
6) Gaza Blockaded and food, electricity cut off/managed by the Jews

7) After the Houthis are sufficiently degraded (AND THEY WILL BE) and Iran is sifficiently warned (AND IT WILL BE) the IDF is going to pick a time based on their own internals, probably just after Passover - to cleanse Gaza once and for all. This means heavy bombing and drone sortis combined with half-assed diplomatic overtures by the U.S. to Arab States and African States and African de-facto state "Somaliland" to accept many thousands of evacuating Palestinians, since the Egyptians and Jordanians aren't interested in doing so - but Jordan will be forced to, if it comes down to it.

8) Where pressure fails, regime change will succeed, and either in Africa or Syria or Jordan (highly doubtful Egypt) those Palestinians who manage to survive or escape the assault on Gaza by the IDF will be doggie-trained to their new places for settlement. Others will accept new offers of immigration to certain worldwide nations by sea and plane transport.

9) If Egypt, Jordan, Turks, Iranians want to fight Israel, they are in for a war against THE UNITED STATES. Period. THE UNITED STATES is prepared to commit and authorise Israel to commit large-scale bombing of civilian cities involving mass casualties in order to stop any attempted war against them. Notice I say "them" because the U.S. will be a full war partner now, OFFICIALLY.

10) Hamas to be disbanded, as it is no longer useful. During but also After the Gaza Op, the West Bank (now supposed to be called "Judea and Samaria") will also be flipped totally over to Jewish ownership. I say Jewish because most of the invaders/settlers are not even Israelis but Jews just recently become Israelis via aliyah for the expressed purpose of populating "Judea and Samaria".

11) If a large-scale doggie-train is not yet working for West Bank Palestinians, the U.S. will boss Jordan into taking them, or face regime-change, and that regime change is likely to include a military operation by the USAF and IAF against Abdullah. It is, however, more likely that King Abdullah will bend, and thereby be supported by them in a violent suppression against any and all dissenting Jordanian militias, while the West Bank is emptied of Palestinians, but also there is that chance that the expatriation doggie-train elswhere than Jordan might already be in place. If necessary, he will be brought to the U.K. for safe-keeping while the necessary "defense" of Jordan against its own people takes place.

12) Turkey and Iran will not make moves against THE UNITED STATES while it defends Israel, fearing nuclear annihilation, a very real threat which President Trump and PM Netanyahu will make against them.

13) As this is all transpiring, THE UNITED STATES will fully back out of Ukraine, allow the Russians to do what they will, and use this abstention as a bargaining chip to keep Russia relatively if not completely uninvolved in the grand Eretz Israel campaign. Russia is likely to convince both the Iranians and the Turks not to go to war against Israel, by suggesting to them it is not prepared to begin WW III over the Palestinian Cause, just like it was not prepared to defend Assad. It will, however, keep its bases on the Syrian coast and try to get an independent state for the Alawites, but the Israelis will not allow it, so the U.S. will veto and reject it, as will the U.K. Russia will ultimately have to leave Syria or fight there, and it will opt to leave.

 

[unknown]

Maybe they should stop being terrorist/pirate proxies for Iran.

This "blame Iran" talking point is busted.

It ran out of juice 10 years ago.

Put it next to WMDs and fighting for your freedom.

 

[unknown]

They have been attacking commercial ships and killing civilians so they don't need really advanced military equipment. 50 year old Soviet era weapons would work.

They are also part of a military alliance with the theocracy of Iran. They support them with weapons they use to attack commercial shipping.

The Izraeli Industrial Complex blames Iran for everything, that's on auto ignore.

So, I looked at a map and found Yemen.

That's how I've learned geography over the years, trying to locate countries we've bombed or overthrown.

I also saw that Somalia is across the street.

I'm sure that incidents of pirating are exaggerated if not outright lies.

However, people should of course be held accountable, especially if lives are lost.

But that doesn't make it ok to commit mass murder.

And Trump with the "hell rain down" line...

Like, how far have we fallen, that we're flexing on the poorest nation on the planet.

It's shameful and pathetic.

Where is the requirement that we be a global serial killer.

We could even show some compassion.

Maybe even help them (and Somalia), not with foreign welfare but voluntary charity.

Our country, and more specifically, our government, does not have to perpetuate this endless lust for blood.

 

[nikcers]

The Izraeli Industrial Complex blames Iran for everything, that's on auto ignore.

So, I looked at a map and found Yemen.

That's how I've learned geography over the years, trying to locate countries we've bombed or overthrown.

I also saw that Somalia is across the street.

I'm sure that incidents of pirating are exaggerated if not outright lies.

However, people should of course be held accountable, especially if lives are lost.

But that doesn't make it ok to commit mass murder.

And Trump with the "hell rain down" line...

Like, how far have we fallen, that we're flexing on the poorest nation on the planet.

It's shameful and pathetic.

Where is the requirement that we be a global serial killer.

We could even show some compassion.

Maybe even help them (and Somalia), not with foreign welfare but voluntary charity.

Our country, and more specifically, our government, does not have to perpetuate this endless lust for blood.

Yeah well that's because that's what happens with theocracy. Theocracy doesn't have borders. That's why Iran went to war with Iraq. That's why communism almost took over the world.

There isn't even any way to help them at this point. Nobody can do it because it's not safe to go there so nobody will do it.

You would need boots on the ground to do anything like that.

 

[69360]

Looks like this is just a preemptive strike because the Houthi announced they would start attacking our commercial shipping a couple days ago. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Not ours, Israel's.

 

[Snowball]

The Houthis will be replaced by a normal government. Probably by summer.
A ground force will go in and finish them off. Attacking the US like this is ground for invasion.
Trump can order it anytime he wants.

Don't be surprised if the US takes Yemen as a US territory now, even renaming it, or splitting it with Saudis.
Trump is a wild character. He sees this as an opportunity, not a threat.
The Houthis are a minority group in Yemen. They are not going to last.

I wouldn't be surprised at anything right now. Trump has carte blanche.

 

[Madison320]

And there goes the budget ...

Next stop double digit inflation!

At least I can go back to hating everybody.

 

[unknown]

Yeah well that's because that's what happens with theocracy. Theocracy doesn't have borders. That's why Iran went to war with Iraq. That's why communism almost took over the world.

There isn't even any way to help them at this point. Nobody can do it because it's not safe to go there so nobody will do it.

You would need boots on the ground to do anything like that.

Well no.

Iran ousted our dictator, the Shah, after we overthrew their democratically leader, Mossadegh via Operation Ajax in 1953.

We then punished Iran by arming our other installed dictator in Iraq, Saddam, and ordered him to attack.

While also selling weapons to Iran, Iran/Contra.

 

[Snowball]

Well no.

Iran ousted our dictator, the Shah, after we overthrew their democratically leader, Mossadegh via Operation Ajax in 1953.

We then punished Iran by arming our other installed dictator in Iraq, Saddam, and ordered him to attack.

While also selling weapons to Iran, Iran/Contra.

We did not install the Ba'athist Party in Iraq. And Saddam, who rose to power about 5-6 years later within the party, was not a US-appointed dictator. The degree to which Eisenhower and Kennedy favored the rise of Ba'athism in Iraq (it was Pan-Arabist, and in Syria also), was minimal. American foreign policy under Ike and JFK was actually good policy. Qasim who overthrew and murdered King Faisal was a thug. Remember, how Kennedy supported Nasser. After the JFK assassination and Six-Day War, U.S. policy swung heavily towards being nothing more than an Israeli enabler, and that went on steriods in the 90's. Still, the positivity (more like attempt to "use" Saddam lingered, especially once the Islamic Revolution occurred in Iran. I don't think it's accurate or fair to denigrate Ba'athism which Saddam was an early member of, into a simple US-appointed dictatorship. Most importantly, we weren't the same country with the same ideals in leadership, and that's why Kennedy was killed. The Israelis knew the Ba'athists and Pan-Arabism were the biggest Arab threat against them long-term, even more so than Shia, much more so. Right now, it's the Shia Iran who are the only threat remaining... but if Pan-Arabism succeeded, and JFK wasn't killed, Israel would have been forced to comply with its founding agreements, and it wouldn't have nuclear weapons, either. Syria, Libya, Iraq, Lebanon, these wouldn't have fallen under the Iranian domain as they do now, which could put us into a major war. But the Israelis convinced or maneuvered our government into deeming strong Arab secular states as unacceptable. It wasn't only the Israelis, though, it was also the BANKS... same people they are, however.