Tennessee republican sheriff refuses to obey the law

[AxisMundi]

First there is no registration on a Double Barrel 12 ga Field Gun. (Stoeger Uplander)
And how would I expect to be registered for something that has NO Registration.

Secondly, It was not my Gun. It was a Housewarming gift to my wife from a family member (a retired LEO).
It was hanging on a wall, and unloaded.

Why would I have reason to be concerned with being arrested.
I didn't. And was doing nothing to expect it.

This is what sent me on a search for my LOST RIGHTS.

Firstly, you did not clarify what type of weapon it was.

Secondly, if the LEO's are at fault, you are well within your rights to sue.

I do have a feeling, however, that there is still information lacking.

 

[AxisMundi]

Eliminate? Where does that word come into the discussion? We're talking of infringement, which is not necessarily elimination, though it could be in the extreme case.

If you are a law abiding citizen, and you register your handgun and meet the criteria for, and obtain, a C&C license, is your right "infringed"?

 

[pcosmar]

If you are a law abiding citizen, and you register your handgun and meet the criteria for, and obtain, a C&C license, is your right "infringed"?

In this case the Sheriff is holding up the paperwork. It is his responsibility to fill out and expedite the proper forms. He refuses to do so. In fact had deliberately altered the forms to hold up the silencer.

It seems that there is a similarity to my case in that he is personally or politically opposed to someone owning something that he disagrees with.
In my case the Prosecutor and the Judge and my Lawyer are all anti-gun. The fact that I had a Restoration of Rights, had committed no crime in this state and did not own the gun were irrelevant.

Perhaps if I had a couple Hundred thousand to fight it I may be able to beat it. But as it was I spent my entire savings and plead to a lessor charge to save my farm.

And now am blacklisted for employment.

 

[pcosmar]

Firstly, you did not clarify what type of weapon it was.

Firstly and Foremost, It does not fuckin' matter what "kind" of weapon it is.

Period.

As far a "training" I learned to shoot at 4 years old. I was on a high school Rifle team. I qualified with
every infantry weapon from the .45 to TOW.
I would bet I could pick up any of your firearms and out shoot you with them.

Oh yeah, I personally dislike Concealed Carry. and prefer Open Carry. It seems more honest to me.

 

[rmodel65]

If the firearm had been registered and you were licensed, you would not have been arrested, correct?

Attempting to operate outside the law, unjust and/or unconstitutional laws or otherwise, is not the way to do things, at least if you expect not to be arrested.

what is this registration and license you speak of?

 

[youngbuck]

what is this registration and license you speak of?

Exactly. In the event you're in a state that requires these, they cost money. If you don't have the money to jump through the necessary hoops (finger prints, FBI background check, etc.) and acquire a license, then this right is rendered a mere privilege. A privilege is something that can be regulated and taken away; A right is not.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Pete is living the police state/control grid nightmare.

And the deniers will continue to blow it off and claim it's his fault.

In this case the Sheriff is holding up the paperwork. It is his responsibility to fill out and expedite the proper forms. He refuses to do so. In fact had deliberately altered the forms to hold up the silencer.

It seems that there is a similarity to my case in that he is personally or politically opposed to someone owning something that he disagrees with.
In my case the Prosecutor and the Judge and my Lawyer are all anti-gun. The fact that I had a Restoration of Rights, had committed no crime in this state and did not own the gun were irrelevant.

Perhaps if I had a couple Hundred thousand to fight it I may be able to beat it. But as it was I spent my entire savings and plead to a lessor charge to save my farm.

And now am blacklisted for employment.

 

[ZanZibar]

"...the right to bear arms shall not be infringed."

I dunno, seems pretty clear to me.

Awww... come on... Don't let things like the law get in the way of stopping your acquisition of power.

 

[southernsontn]

To the OP:

I may not have read everything, but did you contact the State Attorney general? and as another person asked, have you tried contacting the ombudsman? If you aren't prohibited under the law, then this sheriff has a clearly defined obligation to return this document to you, surely there is something that can be done. personally, I'd even try contacting your State representatives. If you really wanted to push it, and were able to, you could make this sheriffs life a legal nightmare.

 

[Barrex]

Yes.

But that's not the current argument, now is it.

The argument is whether certain laws, suc as licensing and registration, eliminate the Second Amendment.

Yes, because if you can be denied that right without due process, then it isn't a right at all. Put another way, rights don't require permission!

Sorry Matt but I dont agree.

Basic law principle:CONSTITUTION trumps all other laws! That would make law in question unconstitutional. In front Constitutional Court (I belive in U.S.A. that does Supreme Court) you can make your case. Also in legal theory if right is named in constitution then you shouldnt even pay to "activate" or "have" that right. This is general about rights and remedies....I cant give you any specific advice because your links to your case dont work anymore.
Sorry I know this is not helping you.

To the OP:

I may not have read everything, but did you contact the State Attorney general? and as another person asked, have you tried contacting the ombudsman? If you aren't prohibited under the law, then this sheriff has a clearly defined obligation to return this document to you, surely there is something that can be done. personally, I'd even try contacting your State representatives. If you really wanted to push it, and were able to, you could make this sheriffs life a legal nightmare.

This. Contact anyone who got anything to do with this... also NRA ... well you get the point....


P.s.
LoL that is 2 minutes of my time wasted....Why revive so old thread?

 

[kwikrnu]

Here are the documents

http://www.kwikrnu.com/embody_v_long.htm

 

[Barrex]

Sent you PM...Not much there could be done (in court) after so much time passed...

 

[southernsontn]

This. Contact anyone who got anything to do with this... also NRA ... well you get the point....


P.s.
LoL that is 2 minutes of my time wasted....Why revive so old thread?

I would seriously doubt that the NRA would help, and sorry about the old thread. I saw it on the front page, and didn't pay attention to the date...

 

[Athan]

Leonard, welcome aboard here. I have heard a lot of good things about you from our mutual friend Rich Hamblen. I definitely want to meet you, learn more, and see if we can help ensure our right to keep and bear arms is protected. I'm a bit tied up until November though, so let's chat then.

Are you saying this is an offical Matt Collins member?
Thats faaaantastic.

 

[Toureg89]

obviously not your fault, but sounds like you would have had less hassle the Trust route.

 

[kwikrnu]

obviously not your fault, but sounds like you would have had less hassle the Trust route.

True, but I shouldn't have had to go the trust route. I now have a 01 FFL and will pay the SOT for the 2013 tax year. then I will be able to buy and sell silencers and machine guns interstate with only form 3 approval.