Teens storm Georgia Wal-Mart in wild rampage of destruction

[FloralScent]

teens...

microaggression...

Kids...

microaggression...

Yoots......

macroaggression...you're all reported.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Brian, I happen to think that I do maintain a high level of decorum. If you differ, and clearly you do, you ought to let me know specifically how I am failing, and in fact failing so badly that I am falling below the threshold of permitted conversation and violating forum guidelines. For you to just paste in a large lump of text is of little value to me in knowing how to improve. I am relatively sure that most of the lump you pasted I have never violated and is not relevant. Let's just go through it:

• Follow the site's Usage Guidelines, taking particular care not to use ad hominem attacks and insults against others. This means don't say "You're [some derogatory term]"

I think I am pretty careful to follow this rule. I can and often will call points of view [insert term]. For example, I called your response stupid. I can do that. I can do that all day long. I think, in fact, upon reflection, you yourself may now realize that it was a stupid response and you wish you had phrased it differently, so as to seem less sympathetic to criminal bandits. But it is the response that was stupid, and not you. I do not think that you are stupid. Even if I did think that about someone, what would be the benefit of saying so? Plus, it is against forum rules. So, CHECK!, I am in good compliance with this rule.

• Debate only in proper context; start a new thread if necessary.

I do not know for sure what this means, no one does, but I do try to stay on topic (though often presenting a "twist," to make my participation worthwhile, otherwise there would be no point to writing nor reading my posts). Sometimes there is thread drift. For instance, you (not me) have wrested this into a discussion over whether I have violated site guidelines. Obviously this discussion is not in proper context in this thread, which is about something else. But, I go with it. Is that wrong? Maybe. But I'm amicable. If you want to talk about how I'm a horrible person, hey, I'm game.

• Present your position in an intellectual manner, provide reasoned supporting details.

I do not do this 100% of the time by any means, but I often do. Often enough to not be breaking site guidelines? Hey, your call.

• Maintain a respectful disposition.

I think I do this quite well. I don't generally take things personally. For instance, even though you clearly despise me, hey, that's OK, and I will +rep you and laud you if you make a good point. If somehow you could read a random sample of my posts here over the years, I think in that in even a very small random sample you are likely to come across multiple instances of people being insulting, rude, and belligerent towards me, and me patiently and unfailingly replying on a high level.

• Do not claim something to be true/false without presenting proof.

Well, I fail this all the time, but so do we all, and what really constitutes "proof"? Is anything ever proven? Such metaphysical discussions are likely outside the intended scope of the RPF guidelines.

• Work to get along with other participants, ask clarifying questions before casting negative assumptions.

I definitely do this. I tend to just assume the best of everyone. There's a good group of folks on RPF, in my opinion (though many very good ones have left us over the years).

• Use extreme care to not misrepresent what you are arguing against. Ask clarifying questions before casting potentially inflammatory misrepresentation.

Probably this is one you feel as if I have violated here. You think I have mischaracterized your view. As a cure for feeling this way, perhaps you should do a Google (or DuckDuckGo) search for the phrase "kids will be kids" and see what that phrase is generally intended to convey.

• Remember to be respectful and work to achieve the purpose of advancing the site's Mission Statement.

Yep, I do that. Think I don't? How about finding some examples and pasting 'em on in here.

• "You're an idiot for thinking that." -- not respectful since you statement is based on an insult.

I have never, not once in eight years, posted this, nor anything like this, to my knowledge.

• "Here are the problems with your line of thinking..." -- respectful, you don't have to agree and can present logical counter-arguments.

Ah yes, I do do that all the time.

• "Troll" -- calling other members a troll is not respectful and implies you know the intent of the member.

I have never, not once in eight years, called any other member a troll, to my knowledge.


• "God does not exist" -- not respectful since you are declaring others' religious doctrine wrong without a proof.

I do not think I have ever posted this.

• "I disagree with your beliefs" -- respectful, you don't have to agree, but you can still be amicable about it.

I don't think I have ever posted this, either, actually.

• "Your church services are stupid" -- not respectful, you can certainly think they don't have value, or think they are not at all of interest to you, but they may be important to others and there's no point in demonizing them - no public policy will change.

I have never posted this.


In summary, I do not have any way of knowing what gross violation(s) you are calling me out for. I just do not; sorry! It would be helpful if you could specify. Thanks!

Do you want me gone, is that what you are saying? If you and the other moderators want me gone, hey, you don't have to show me the door. I'll be gone. You won't have to put up with my guideline violations any more. Just maybe check with the other mods and make sure they're on board with you.

 

[Chomp]

These stupid kids are products of this last deranged Generation Y.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

• Follow the site's Usage Guidelines, taking particular care not to use ad hominem attacks and insults against others. This means don't say "You're [some derogatory term]"

I think I am pretty careful to follow this rule. I can and often will call points of view [insert term]. For example, I called your response stupid.

That's a fine line. Someone could conceivably take that as insulting.

If somehow you could read a random sample of my posts here over the years, I think in that in even a very small random sample you are likely to come across multiple instances of people being insulting, rude, and belligerent towards me, and me patiently and unfailingly replying on a high level.

Yes, that has happened with some frequency as you point out. And perhaps that should be an indicator that some people have found your responses insulting.

• Work to get along with other participants, ask clarifying questions before casting negative assumptions.

I definitely do this. I tend to just assume the best of everyone.

• Use extreme care to not misrepresent what you are arguing against. Ask clarifying questions before casting potentially inflammatory misrepresentation.

Probably this is one you feel as if I have violated here. You think I have mischaracterized your view.

You clarify after you call something "stupid?" Once again, it's conceivable that someone would still take offense.

In summary, I do not have any way of knowing what gross violation(s) you are calling me out for. I just do not; sorry! It would be helpful if you could specify. Thanks!

Hopefully that helped to clarify. You're welcome.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Kids will be kids. Hopefully it's just vandalism, and no violence on persons. Assault and/or battery is an entirely different story. But they should catch and prosecute the vandals. Some creative punishment would be in order, which would preferably involve some type of hard work to make reparations.

And now for the full intent of "Kids will be kids."

From the moment it was typed, it was meant to be hyperbolic, ironic, cliche, and yet somewhat empathetic and true, all at the same time. Kids do stupid things. It's pretty common. This type of flash mobbing has become in-style with teenagers. And as I suggested, there needs to be real consequences and punishment, not the counter-productive farce that our legal system doles out these days.

 

[2young2vote]

I feel like I would simply explode in rage if something like this happened in my store/property. I don't think the results would be good.

 

[Ronin Truth]

I feel like I would simply explode in rage if something like this happened in my store/property. I don't think the results would be good.

How many of that teen thug wannabe type are currently incarcerated? I'm guessing that a few million more should be and soon will be.

And the cultural whining will still continue. Which lives matter, is it?

 

[tod evans]

How many of that teen thug wannabe type are currently incarcerated? I'm guessing that a few million more should be and soon will be.

Government and her goons aren't going to fix this.........

 

[Ronin Truth]

Government and her goons aren't going to fix this.........

What are your solution ideas?

 

[tod evans]

What are your solution ideas?

Not in 1's-n-0's.........

 

[Working Poor]

And as I suggested, there needs to be real consequences and punishment, not the counter-productive farce that our legal system doles out these days.

Yea make them go to work for Walmart...

 

[Ronin Truth]

Yea make them go to work for Walmart...

That would probably be ruled as "cruel and unusual punishment".

 

[Ronin Truth]

Not in 1's-n-0's.........

How about in English or hexadecimal?

 

[helmuth_hubener]

That's a fine line. Someone could conceivably take that as insulting.

it's conceivable that someone would still take offense.

Hopefully that helped to clarify. You're welcome.

Yes, thank you very much. Bottom line: you are implicitly claiming that I violated the site rules by criticizing your post too harshly in this thread. I will remove the forbidden words, since I absolutely respect the property rights of the site owner, Brian, and you are his authorized surrogate. Other, bigger bottom line: you are also implicitly claiming that any post to which "it's conceivable that someone would still take offense" is forbidden on this forum. OK. If that's how it is, that's how it is. Thanks, Brian,

 

[Ronin Truth]

Yes, thank you very much. Bottom line: you are implicitly claiming that I violated the site rules by criticizing your post too harshly in this thread. I will remove the forbidden words, since I absolutely respect the property rights of the site owner, Brian, and you are his authorized surrogate. Other, bigger bottom line: you are also implicitly claiming that any post to which "it's conceivable that someone would still take offense" is forbidden on this forum. OK. If that's how it is, that's how it is. Thanks, Brian,

Getting offended has become a pathetic booming major growth industry in Amerika.

 

[Edward777]

No worries, women who wish to put little into raising their offspring are still popping them out and women who would make ideal mothers are made to feel guilty for wanting a family, and if they are super-maternal then they are chastised for wanting more than two.

This country is not on the right course because of this.

 

[Ronin Truth]

No worries, women who wish to put little into raising their offspring are still popping them out and women who would make ideal mothers are made to feel guilty for wanting a family, and if they are super-maternal then they are chastised for wanting more than two.

This country is not on the right course because of this.

Absitively! Plus several other really sad reasons.