Ted Cruz sets sights on Rand Paul’s libertarian base

[twomp]

lol Ted Cruz...

 

[r3volution 3.0]

This way of thinking will not get you very far in politics.

Nor will naming a retarded animal your VP.

 

[nikcers]

^^^Am I hallucinating, or did you just say you actually considered giving something other than bottomless contempt to Trump?

Honestly I paid a lot of attention to Trumps campaign all the way until he started taking positions that are antithetical to getting elected president in a multicultural society, for me that just gave me the general impression that he wasn't serious about becoming president and that he want's to be king maker. Cruz bugs me though in his own very special way, to me Ted Cruz represents all of those people who said they liked Ron Paul except for his foreign policy, and Ron Paul's foreign policy was the only reason why I ever registered Republican.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

***If you weren't familiar with the real Trump, that's understandable.

But anyone who knows the real Trump, and who claims to be a libertarian-ish person, and who has anything but absolute contempt for him, is confused (to put it politely).

 

[timosman]

Nor will naming a retarded animal your VP.

Have you given any thoughts about people who think about abandoning the Cruz ship and coming here ? Do you think your posts will encourage or discourage them from doing so ?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Have you given any thoughts about people who think about abandoning the Cruz ship and coming here ? Do you think your posts will encourage or discourage them from doing so ?

Since I was talking about Trump (who is a retarded sub-human animal), I don't know why this would affect any Cruz voter.

And what impact do you think your weeks of shilling for Trump might have?

 

[timosman]

Since I was talking about Trump (who is a retarded sub-human animal), I don't know why this would affect any Cruz voter.

And what impact do you think your weeks of shilling for Trump might have?

Dude, you really should cool it off. The level of anxiety you are displaying is not creating a positive environment here. We have a nomination to win and you are coming with sub-human animal shit.

 

[Badger Paul]

Cruz is stronger, he’d have more spunk as president,” said Shirlene Van Doorne, 64, of Nashua, after the Texas senator delivered a rousing speech Friday morning, packed with libertarian themes he doesn’t often discuss. “With [Paul’s] father, it’s a different story. When he ran last time, he was more like Cruz, very strong.”

It's pretty damn sad when it comes to this.

Rand really has to hit the foreign policy angle to separate himself from arseholes like Cruz or the campaign is just going to disappear given this kind sentiment. You can't rally people around a candidate at two percent in the polls, I don't care how much "organization" you have. Good organization cannot make up for bad candidate. Some people around here need to realize this. It's up to Rand.

I'll take Trump over Cruz any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

 

[Patrick Henry]

They assert that the majority of Ron Paul backers are still with Rand, and accuse the Cruz campaign of “repackaging” long-held endorsements to make their liberty roll-out last week seem bigger.

That seems in line with his character.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

It is possible, provided end times don't happen before the elections.

October 17, 2013

Ted Cruz's Father Suggested His Son Is 'Anointed' to Bring About 'End Time Transfer of Wealth'

"The pastor [Huch] referred to Proverbs 13:22, a little while ago, which says that the wealth of the wicked is stored for the righteous. And it is through the kings, anointed to take dominion, that that transfer of wealth is going to occur." - Rafael Cruz, August 26, 2012​

In a sermon [2] last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate, Cruz' father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as "kings" to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the "Seven Mountains" mandate, and "bring the spoils of war to the priests", thus helping to bring about a prophesied "great transfer of wealth", from the "wicked" to righteous gentile believers. link to video [3] of Rafael Cruz describing the "great transfer of wealth" and the role of anointed "kings" in various sectors of society, including government, who are to "bring the spoils of war to the priests".
Rafael Cruz' dominionist [4] sermon given August 26, 2012, at the New Beginnings Church of pastor Larry Huch, in Irving, Texas has already received considerable scrutiny due to an excellent Huffington Post commentary [5] by Methodist Associate Pastor Morgan Guyton, who noted the explicitly dominionist nature of pastor Cruz' sermon, which concerned the divine mandate for believers, with anointing of "kings" in their respective spheres, to take control over all sectors of society.
Cruz spoke of "Kings who are anointed to go to war, win the war, and bring the spoils of war to the priests."

http://www.alternet.org/print/speake...-time-transfer

lol Ted Cruz...

Is he praying for Christians being slaughtered in Syria by ISIS-Neocons alliance?

On an unrelated note, are people of all colors being treated equally in terms of allocation of kneeling pads shown in this pic?

 

[eleganz]

Jesus Christ, this guy will do anything to seal the vote block. I've been eyeing his moves and the way he talks to people, he is the most desperate candidate I've ever seen in my life. He comes off as so damn fake yet there are a legion of people out there who thinks he is the most genuine.

lol Ted Cruz...

 

[kahless]

Jesus Christ, this guy will do anything to seal the vote block. I've been eyeing his moves and the way he talks to people, he is the most desperate candidate I've ever seen in my life. He comes off as so damn fake yet there are a legion of people out there who thinks he is the most genuine.

It is so obvious that it is mind blowing that people are falling for it. I suspect the support he is receiving is the same crowd that falls for phony TV evangelists.

 

[Batman]

He's not going to win. If I were Rand I'd cut this snake's coils of me. Endorse his opponent in 2018.

 

[CPUd]

He will most definitely have a well-funded primary challenger.

 

[Foreigner]

He will most definitely have a well-funded primary challenger.

Not gonna happen. He's well liked enough in Texas, and can raise enough money to be untouchable. You need 100+ million and a guy who is seen as equally conservative. And still then they may still lose.

The same goes for Rand, of course. Although that is more likely because Kentucky is cheaper to win. Maybe some neocons will find a guy to run to try to get Rand to quit the presidential race? Still, they are never gonna find anybody who can defeat Rand in a primary.

 

[Patrick Henry]

ht tps://www.tedcruz.org/news/cruz-gains-momentum-among-libertarian-voters/
lol at the spin.

Cruz Gains Momentum Among Libertarian Voters

Earns 51% of voter approval in Republican Liberty Caucus Straw Poll
HOUSTON, Texas – Presidential candidate Ted Cruz continues to shore up his support among libertarian voters, earning 51 percent approval from voters participating in the straw poll held at the Republican Liberty Caucus in Nashua, NH over the weekend.
“We are very encouraged by the growing support we are seeing among liberty voters in the early states and across the country,” Cruz said. “I have spent my career defending and promoting the constitutional liberties that our nation was founded upon, and that are increasingly under assault today. From free speech and religious liberty to our right to bear arms and our right to privacy, I have been proud to lead on all these issues, whether before the Supreme Court or in Congress. If elected president, libertarian voters across the country can be confident that I will stand for the U.S. Constitution at every turn.”
Sen. Cruz’s strong performance in the straw poll comes at the heels of a growing coalition of libertarian voters organizing in the early states and across the country for the Cruz for President campaign. The campaign’s Liberty Leaders coalition is chaired by former U.S. Congressman Bob Barr, with 25 former Ron Paul organizers and supporters leading efforts in the early states of Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.
Sen. Cruz continues to expand his base among tea party, evangelical and libertarian voters. He has won recent and notable straw polls indicating his solid base of support in all areas, particularly those conducted by Freedom Works and Values Voters.

 

[eleganz]

The desperation smells awful.

ht tps://www.tedcruz.org/news/cruz-gains-momentum-among-libertarian-voters/
lol at the spin.

David Weigel gets it right again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-voter-straw-poll-ted-cruz-claims-otherwise/

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) came out ahead of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) in a weekend straw poll of libertarian-leaning Republican activists, but the Texan claimed victory anyway -- the latest gritted-teeth exchange between two candidates brawling for a similar base.

"Liberty unites people, and I am honored to win the Republican Liberty Caucus straw poll," Paul said in a statement. "I will continue to represent the Liberty wing of the Republican Party."

In a separate statement, released moments later, Cruz's campaign claimed a "major upset among libertarian voters" had occurred at a conference in Nashua, New Hampshire. "We are very encouraged by the growing support we are seeing among liberty voters in the early states and across the country,” Cruz said. "If I'm elected president, libertarian voters across the country can be confident that I will continue to stand for the U.S. Constitution at every turn.”

The math was kinder to Paul, who has led Cruz in endorsements from libertarian-leaning New Hampshire Republican legislators since the start of the presidential race. Both men spoke to the Republican Liberty Caucus meeting. Paul won 445 votes to 399 for Cruz, in a preference test that combined votes for first-choice candidates and for anyone that voters found acceptable. (Former neurosurgeon Ben Carson trailed with 139 votes, while former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina ran fourth with 79.)

Behind the scenes, Cruz allies had sown doubts about whether Paul's campaign was still competitive with the sort of "liberty" voters who were inspired to enter politics by his father, former Texas congressman Ron Paul. One rumor had Paul desperately busing in supporters from his home state of Kentucky. Another rumor had staff deserting the campaign as the Cruz juggernaut gathered momentum.

Paul's campaign made no attempt to conceal its pleasure at besting Cruz. "While Ted Cruz worked hard and bussed people in, he ultimately did not resonate with liberty lovers," said Paul spokesman Sergio Gor. "Ted Cruz came, Ted Cruz saw, Ted Cruz was conquered."

Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler said flatly that the campaign had not bussed anyone in to the conference, but confirmed that 25 tickets had been purchased for supporters. The campaign's post-vote statement led with how Cruz had won "51 percent" of the vote, based on the strange combined count. (According to this math, Paul won 57 percent of the vote.) Paul's campaign, which has grappled with weeks of stories about whether the candidate can even make it to the New Hampshire primary, was not so coy.

"One thing it should tell you is who has the better organizational muscle for conventions and caucuses," said Paul strategist Doug Stafford, who had previously laughed off a rumor that he'd abandoned the campaign for a struggling pro-Paul super PAC. "We don't spend all weekend planting stories about winning polls that require organization. We just win them."

 

[Batman]

I'd endorse his Democratic challenger.

Drop mic.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I tend to go back and forth between whether Ben Carson or Ted Cruz is my 2nd favorite of the GOP field, even though Cruz is constantly peeving me off with his antics and hyperbolic worship of all things Israel. I can say with full confidence that I don't think I could even stomach a vote for any of the others, though I had briefly mused over holding my nose for Trump before he began shifting his positions every 5 seconds.

Cruz is a loose cannon, and I don't trust him at all. I think Carson is at least a decent person (I'm not denying the doctrine of total depravity here ) and means well, but I could not stomach a vote for a torture supporter.

So yeah, I'm only voting for Rand. I even struggle with that a little because of the constitution issue. Don't the covenanters generally think its appropriate to discipline someone for voting for any candidate whatsoever? I know the orginal RPCNA testimony says this.

 

[Brett85]

I don't like Cruz's foreign policy, but I do appreciate that he at least acknowledges that we exist as a movement and is trying to earn our vote. I think that Rand is clearly the best option for those of us who believe in liberty, but I do have to give Cruz credit for at least trying to reach out to us. I've been complaining for a long time that the Republican Party simply ignores us and pretends like we don't exist at all, so I would be being hypocritical if I criticized Cruz for trying to reach out to libertarian voters.