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Explain why Rand is wrong? No one is offering a cogent explanation of why state governments should be able to infringe constitutional liberties and why the Supreme Court should let the Constitution go to hell in a handbasket.

It gives the Supreme Court too much power to strike down state laws that don't violate the Constitution. The Constitution doesn't say anything about contraception, so the states have the authority under the 10th Amendment to ban it if they want to. The Griswold vs. Connecticut decision also set the stage for Roe v. Wade, as the authors of the Roe v. Wade decision cited the Griswold decision in their decision. If Griswold was the correct decision, then the same logic would have to lead you to believe that Roe v. Wade was also correctly decided.
 
Explain why Rand is wrong? No one is offering a cogent explanation of why state governments should be able to infringe constitutional liberties and why the Supreme Court should let the Constitution go to hell in a handbasket.

State governments shouldn't be able to infringe on liberties. Neither should other countries like Iraq. But when they do, that doesn't give license to the federal government to impose its will on these sovereign states, and infringing other liberties in the process.
 
What are you criticizing here? I'm willing to defend Rand's views of Griswold and Lochner 100%. John Yoo is a fascist stooge who believes in a unitary executive government.

That is true. John Yoo wrote the infamous "torture" memo. Might as well quote Charles Manson.
 
Lots of people like bashing Ted right now, its becoming popular. He is jan2016's Cosby, he is the Nickeback of conservatives.
 
State governments shouldn't be able to infringe on liberties. Neither should other countries like Iraq. But when they do, that doesn't give license to the federal government to impose its will on these sovereign states, and infringing other liberties in the process.

I'll take this bait. The Constitution guards against abuses by state governments through the 14th Amendment. Properly read, the amendment protects the privileges and immunities (i.e., the constitutional liberties and guarantees) of citizens against violation by the states and prevents the deprivation of life, liberty and property without due process of law for all persons. Lochner vs. New York, much maligned by progressives and overturned by the Roosevelt court, correctly ruled that New York's interference in the freedom to contract constituted a violation of the 14th Amendment, thereby striking down a maximum hours law meant to shield established bakers from innovative competitors which had employees bake at night for four hours, sleep for eight on the job, and package the goods for four hours in the morning.

Now what are the reasonable exceptions by which a government can constrain liberties? Traditionally, these are called the police powers of the state, which are divided into the safety, health, morals, and general (as in, universal) welfare of society. A legitimate exercise of police power requires a legitimate justification. Indiscriminate warrantless wiretapping by the NSA is not an appropriate limitation of the 4th Amendment, because the poorly-justified benefits bear no relation to the authoritarian means. Likewise, states cannot erect anti-competitive barriers to interstate trade in the name of consumer safety -- a ploy attempted all too often, but usually caught by a Supreme Court hyper-attuned to state rather than federal overreach (the constitutional principle of interstate free trade is called the Dormant Commerce Clause).

In Griswold vs. Connecticut, the law banning the use of prophylactics might have been appropriate before knowledge of germ theory, when a stigma against promiscuity helped prevent the spread of sexually transmitted disease. But by the 1960s, the law had no justification under the morals head of the police power and only served to restrict the liberties of individuals without commensurate benefits but with evident harms, since it was then known that prophylactic use prevents the spread of STDs. The law, if still accepted by the majority of the people of Connecticut at the time, was a majoritarian infringement of the liberties of a minority.

Note that my reasoning in Griswold does not follow the incoherent account of Justice Douglas, who resorted in proper progressive fashion to the invisible "umbras and penumbras" of the 4th Amendment. Instead, the proper justification flows from the circumscribed powers of the state in a classical liberal reading of the Constitution, which is the consummately classical liberal text. Therefore, the correct result in Griswold does not lead to Roe v. Wade, because the morals head of the police power surely encompasses protection of the life of the unborn, for which there is ample practical justification for the circumscription of the "pure freedom" of the woman and abortionist. Under the Constitution, it should be left to the states to exert this police power, just as all but the handful of federal crimes enumerated in the Constitution are also within the rightful domain of the states.
 
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I'll take this bait. The Constitution guards against abuses by state governments through the 14th Amendment. Properly read, the amendment protects the privileges and immunities (i.e., the constitutional liberties and guarantees) of citizens against violation by the states and prevents the deprivation of life, liberty and property without due process of law for all persons. Lochner vs. New York, much maligned by progressives and overturned by the Roosevelt court, correctly ruled that New York's interference in the freedom to contract constituted a violation of the 14th Amendment, thereby striking down a maximum hours law meant to shield established bakers from innovative competitors which had employees bake at night for four hours, sleep for eight on the job, and package the goods for four hours in the morning.

Now what are the reasonable exceptions by which a government can constrain liberties? Traditionally, these are called the police powers of the state, which are divided into the safety, health, morals, and general (as in, universal) welfare of society. A legitimate exercise of police power requires a legitimate justification. Indiscriminate warrantless wiretapping by the NSA is not an appropriate limitation of the 4th Amendment, because the poorly-justified benefits bear no relation to the authoritarian means. Likewise, states cannot erect anti-competitive barriers to interstate trade in the name of consumer safety -- a ploy attempted all too often, but usually caught by a Supreme Court hyper-attuned to state rather than federal overreach (the constitutional principle of interstate free trade is called the Dormant Commerce Clause).

In Griswold vs. Connecticut, the law banning the use of prophylactics might have been appropriate before knowledge of germ theory, when a stigma against promiscuity helped prevent the spread of sexually transmitted disease. But by the 1960s, the law had no justification under the morals head of the police power and only served to restrict the liberties of individuals without commensurate benefits but with evident harms, since it was then known that prophylactic use prevents the spread of STDs. The law, if still accepted by the majority of the people of Connecticut at the time, was a majoritarian infringement of the liberties of a minority.

Note that my reasoning in Griswold does not follow the incoherent account of Justice Douglas, who resorted in proper progressive fashion to the invisible "umbras and penumbras" of the 4th Amendment. Instead, the proper justification flows from the circumscribed powers of the state in a classical liberal reading of the Constitution, which is the consummately classical liberal text. Therefore, the correct result in Griswold does not lead to Roe v. Wade, because the morals head of the police power surely encompasses protection of the life of the unborn, for which there is ample practical justification for the circumscription of the "pure freedom" of the woman and abortionist. Under the Constitution, it should be left to the states to exert this police power, just as all but the handful of federal crimes enumerated in the Constitution are also within the rightful domain of the states.

I would support getting rid of the 14th Amendment entirely, and I think it would be correct for a court to rule the 14th Amendment illegal, since it violates natural law, which trumps the Constitution. An unjust law is no law at all.

But even supposing its continuance and legitimacy, the last clause of the 14th Amendment places the responsibility of enforcing its provisions on Congress, not the judicial branch. I agree that New York's interference in contracts was illegitimate (and would have been illegitimate if no 14th Amendment or Constitution for that matter even existed). But if it was to be overturned under the 14th Amendment, then it was up to New York either to agree or disagree with the Court's judgment and change its law if it agreed, or if New York disagreed, then it was up to Congress to decide if it agreed or disagreed with the Court's judgment, and if it agreed, then to pass whatever law was necessary to enforce that judgment. The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority or means of doing so. As Federalist 78 said, the court holds neither sword nor purse, but only judgment. The legislative branch has willingly hid behind the judicial branch as a means of avoiding its own responsibilities.
 
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