Ted Cruz and war with Iran

[LibertyEagle]

We may butt heads at times.. but this is an issue that I do not compromise on.

Understandable. Thing is, he was leaps and bounds better than the others. But, I do agree with you on this.

 

[pcosmar]

Understandable. Thing is, he was leaps and bounds better than the others. But, I do agree with you on this.

Yeah well..

..then stop shitting all over this site

I apparently have a different idea the 2nd Amendment..
I do not think maintaining the Status Quo is defending it.

And I have serious issues with the Mental Health Industry,, and the dangers of allowing it to affect politics or laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry

Political abuse of psychiatry is the purported misuse of psychiatric diagnosis, detention and treatment for the purposes of obstructing the fundamental human rights of certain groups and individuals in a society.

 

[FrankRep]

I have to agree with Pcosmar on this. Cuccinelli may very well be great on everything else about guns, but this stance is not good at all.

Interesting Debate between Ken Cuccinelli vs. Terry McAuliffe:

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JULIE KERRY:
19:27:45:00: Well, the tragic shooting at the Navy Yard has once again cast a spotlight on gun laws. Mr. McAuliffe, as part of your plan to strengthen Virginia’s cities, you say you support universal background checks, limiting the size of magazine, a return to the one-gun a month purchase rule. But missing from that list is and assault weapons ban, something you said as recently as December of 2012 that you supported. So I have a two-part question. First, have you changed your mind about an assault weapons ban? And secondly, how big a priority would you make it as governor to change Virginia’s gun laws?

TERRY MCAULIFFE:
19:28:16:00: I haven’t changed my mind. It’s a very pertinent question for tonight. Obviously, after the tragedy we just had at the Navy Yard — the tragedy we had in Virginia, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Newtown, Connecticut, as a father and as a husband, I can speak for everybody in this audience. When we drop our children off at school and we dropped our loved ones off at work, we want to know that they’re gonna be safe, that our communities are safe. It is so important.

19:28:50:00: That’s why I’m for responsible gun ownership. I have called for universal background checks. My opponent doesn’t support that. I’m a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. I’m a hunter. I own guns. I’ve gone through background checks. They take just a couple minutes. We have a gigantic loophole in Virginia. You can buy guns through mail order. You can go to these gun show loopholes.

19:29:14:00: There are certain individuals who just should not own a gun. There are individuals that have mental illness. I think this is such a critical issue for us. How many people have to be killed till we wake up to have sensible gun ownership? Now I was very dismayed with the United States Senate this year. 91% of Americans support universal background checks. And the Senate refused to even bring it up for a vote. As governor, I’m gonna push. Most importantly, we need universal background checks for everyone —

CHUCK TODD:
19:29:51:00: Mr. Cuccinelli, could —

TERRY MCAULIFFE:
19:29:51:00: —to keep our loved ones safe.

CHUCK TODD:
19:29:51:00: —you — could you address in your — 90 seconds why all of the — recommendations from the Virginia Tech review haven’t been implemented, including background checks?

KEN CUCCINELLI:
19:30:01:00: Of course, the — tragedy at Virginia Tech led us to look at a lot of things. And for those of you who know me, you know that I have been deeply involved in working with people suffering from mental illness for years. And — one of the common themes in the most public tragedies is that we’re dealing with people who suffer from mental illness.

19:30:22:00: I would tell you, though, that the more common tragedy in mental illness is day to day, one person at a time, that you don’t read about in the paper. It’s a suicide. It’s a family struggling and they’re at their wits’ end to try and get one of their family members on a path to recovery and — sustainability. We have not found — gun control to — to effect that, to be effective in that area.

19:30:51:00: What we’ve done in Virginia is we have become the number one state per capita in screening out people with mental illness from gun purchases. We’re the f — we’re the best state at that in the country. We’re also the number one state that I’m aware of, The Department of Justice doesn’t keep data on all of them — in terms of prosecuting people who attempt to buy guns illegally.

19:31:11:00: That is the best way to enforce our gun laws is to be aggressive and proactive. I’m running against the only F-rated candidate from the — N.R.A., the only one of all six running statewide. I will support the Second Amendment. It deserves support — as does our whole constitution. But I will continue to focus on where I believe the main source of this problem is. And that is resolving mental health issues.

CHUCK TODD:
19:31:35:00: All right. Mr. McAuliffe, you’ve got 60.

TERRY MCAULIFFE:
19:31:38:00: He absolutely said nothing with that response as it relates to gun control. Obviously, we both believe in investing in — in — in mental illness, mental health, and what we need to do. I can tell you this, without the Medicaid expansion money, there’s not a penny for any new investment in mental health, not a penny. With his tax plan that would take all this money out of our budget, there’s not a penny.

19:31:58:00: So it’s really just talk. Now whatever rating I may get from the N.R.A., I’m gonna stand here and tell you today that as governor, I want to make sure that every one of our citizens in the Commonwealth of Virginia are safe. Everyone of our children, when they go into a classroom, should know that they are safe. When any one of our loved ones goes into work, what happened at the Navy Yard the other day is continued pattern of what’s going on. We need to eliminate guns from the folks who should not own guns. There are many reasons why individuals who are dangerous, who have a issue of mental hellness — mental illness. And a background check, I’ve done it, it takes two, three, four minutes.

CHUCK TODD:
19:32:39:00: Thank you there. We’re gonna do a pause here for a brief commercial break. We’re gonna be right back with many more questions for the candidates of the governor — for governor of Virginia. And after the debate, you can join me and News 4 Northern Virginia Bureau Chief Julie Kerry for a special Google Hangout on NBCWashington.com. We’ll be right back. (APPLAUSE)

 

[Ender]

I see. Then there is a split on these forums since some believe that they are acts of war based on the reasoning and words of Ron Paul.

Yep. Sanctions are an act of war.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

At another forum Cruzer was being callled worse names like "brown uncle tom" and such.

IMO, he is more like a "moderate neocon" and is either a political hack or has some nuts lose in upper compartment.

Ted Cruz's Quick Syria invasion stance:

“We know Assad has used these weapons, and there is good reason to suspect the al Qaida-affiliated rebels would use them as well if they could get their hands on them. This poses an intolerable threat not only to our friends in the region, but also to the United States. We need to be developing a clear, practical plan to go in, locate the weapons, secure or destroy them, and then get out. The United States should be firmly in the lead to make sure the job is done right.”- Ted Cruz

Link

 

[FrankRep]

IMO, he is more like a "moderate neocon" and is either a political hack or has some nuts lose in upper compartment.

Wikipedia: Neoconservatism

Neoconservatism is a political movement born in the 1960s inside the monthly review Commentary, the journal of the American Jewish Committee, which replaced the Contemporary Jewish Record in 1945. On the "theoretical" side of neoconservatism, most influential neoconservatives such as Norman Podhoretz and his son John, Irving Kristol and his son William, Donald Kagan, Paul Wolfowitz, and Abram Schulsky, refer explicitly to the ideas in the philosophy of Leo Strauss. They often describe themselves as "Straussians."
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Neoconservatism is supportive of the welfare state of the New Deal, but critical of some aspects of the Johnson administration's Great Society programs, offers lukewarm applause for free markets, and advocates "assertive" promotion of democracy and American "national interest" in international affairs including by military means.​

Ted Cruz is not a Neo-Conservative.

 

[fr33]

Rand Paul supports this position. He is the successor to Ron Paul and therefore our current leader. There's no problem with agreeing with him.

Strongly and openly disagreeing with Ron on endorsements is aligning yourself against both Ron and Rand, which of course makes you an enemy of the new liberty movement as a whole.

You don't have the authority to make such calls.

 

[T.hill]

Sanctions are an act of war.
And putting a foreign government ahead if the US interests is treason.

Debatable point.

 

[T.hill]

Ron Paul isn't infallible and some of us aren't as isolationist as he is.

Using the word 'isolationist' to describe Ron Paul's foreign policy views is misleading. Non-interventionism is a completely separate and distinct international relations theory from isolationism.

 

[eduardo89]

Using the word 'isolationist' to describe Ron Paul's foreign policy views is misleading. Non-interventionism is a completely separate and distinct international relations theory from isolationism.

I agree, they are different.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I agree, they are different.

Then a follow up question would be, do you know the definition of isolationism?

Obviously you do. We may just have differing opinions.

You see, isolationism is what many propose. Containment, as another possible name. A "policy of strength" they describe. What they don't tell, and you well know, is that it is a policy of dick waving and threats. Though we are the isolationists? Because now that America has been so endowed as many enemies as countries, we don't advocate sanctions, or other less aggressive measures? A sincere apology is isolationist? You'll consider the previous question naive but what I consider naive is the notion that we are killing more enemies than we are creating. That many of the enemies we have aren't the result of our policies over the years. That trade and honest respect doesn't take a two thousand page bill affirming as much. Is that isolationist? Or are some, old school republicans, who think America cannot show strength without shitting on weaker nations?

 

[oyarde]

I think there is a huge difference between "we won't trade with them" and blockading their ports to prevent other countries from trading with them.

I do as well. So just , we do not wish to trade with you are not sanctions per se , blockading and interference probably should be considered acts of war .....

 

[oyarde]

Because a lot of self proclaimed libertarians think that its all about abortion, gay marriage, weed, and maybe cutting taxes a little bit, but only after the first 3 are accomplished.

That is correct . Which explains the failure , because social issues are no place to be , half the country believes one , half the other and they already have a candidate .

 

[vita3]

Yep. Sanctions are an act of war.

Of course they are. Economics & war go hand in hand. Can't bullshit that one.