Teacher had sex with her 8th grade student for a year, turned herself in.

What is relevant is that age difference is bad because of all the reasons I mentioned. I am not discussing this particular instance beyond the age difference.
You are not making sense.
age is irrelevant. it is an individual thing.

Whether physical maturity and mental maturity or social maturity occur at the same time is irrelevant,, ( I have doubts of them coinciding)

I know elderly folk who have never matured socially

21 does not = any level of maturity.
 
You are not making sense.
age is irrelevant. it is an individual thing.

Whether physical maturity and mental maturity or social maturity occur at the same time is irrelevant,, ( I have doubts of them coinciding)

I know elderly folk who have never matured socially

21 does not = any level of maturity.

Well let's start with that you shouldn't want a 25 year old at the maturity of a 14 year old dating your 14 year old.
 
Agree.

She's beautiful but I think finding a 14 year old boy sexually attractive at that age is a bit bizarre.

It really is, though I admit that I am less offended by a younger boy with an older woman than I would be with it the other way around. One day the human race is going to have to face facts: girls are different from boys.
 
It really is, though I admit that I am less offended by a younger boy with an older woman than I would be with it the other way around. One day the human race is going to have to face facts: girls are different from boys.

It's because girls have higher sexual market value than guys. So it is disturbing in either case. But when it happens to girls we recognize how there is more incentive to after them than boys.
 
It's because girls have higher sexual market value than guys. So it is disturbing in either case. But when it happens to girls we recognize how there is more incentive to after them than boys.

Sorry, unlike you I so not see dollar signs when I look at people.
 
Well let's start with that you shouldn't want a 25 year old at the maturity of a 14 year old dating your 14 year old.

lets start with,, who the Frak makes that decision.

and in years past parents approved of me with their teen daughters,, and they were exceptional women.
 
Sorry, unlike you I so not see dollar signs when I look at people.

I think I made a scientific statement.

If you think about it girls are fertile and produce children. They eventually become a lot less attractive once they have children or no longer can produce them. Boys on other hand have jack shit and become much more productive as years go by. This has nothing to do with what I think. This is how humans behave.
 
I think I made a scientific statement.

I have no doubt that you do.

If you think about it girls are fertile and produce children. They eventually become a lot less attractive once they have children or no longer can produce them. Boys on other hand have jack shit and become much more productive as years go by. This has nothing to do with what I think. This is how humans behave.

Value is not objective, it is subjective, and the value of humans is the most subjective of all. You cannot make objective conclusions about subjective realities, except to objectively say that value perception is subjective.
 
I would hope responsible parents. What was your age difference?

I think so.

Less than me and my wife.. 5 to 7 years.
One young lady could not relate to those her own age.. hung out with college level or professors.. She was wonderfully bright and competent.
I was invited into their home, and I did stay the night more than once.
never did actually have sex with her though,,

The other one I did.. She was my teacher. 15 when I took her across state lines. Took her to Florida on a transport run,, but she taught me so much.

lived together 2 years,, still love her.

Have you lived some very sheltered life?? I knew one like that too.

got caught in her room. she was 18. (damn near prisoner)
 
I have no doubt that you do.



Value is not objective, it is subjective, and the value of humans is the most subjective of all. You cannot make objective conclusions about subjective realities, except to objectively say that value perception is subjective.

So is the price of gold or price of feathers higher per pound right now? Objectively.

What you said is a nice talking point for someone who does not think much outside of libertarian thought.

For a parent of a child that is 14 what you said sounds like bs. It may be technically true but no one is going to take that chance with their child.

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I think so.

Less than me and my wife.. 5 to 7 years.
One young lady could not relate to those her own age.. hung out with college level or professors.. She was wonderfully bright and competent.
I was invited into their home, and I did stay the night more than once.
never did actually have sex with her though,,

The other one I did.. She was my teacher. 15 when I took her across state lines. Took her to Florida on a transport run,, but she taught me so much.

lived together 2 years,, still love her.

Have you lived some very sheltered life?? I knew one like that too.

got caught in her room. she was 18. (damn near prisoner)

First I don't know what you are saying. You are not very coherent.

Second my life was not too sheltered but my parents would have put a stop to anyone older than me dating with me.

Also I did not date much, I locked down my wife while we were young :).
 
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I think I made a scientific statement.

If you think about it girls are fertile and produce children. They eventually become a lot less attractive once they have children or no longer can produce them. Boys on other hand have jack shit and become much more productive as years go by. This has nothing to do with what I think. This is how humans behave.

:eek::mad:

I ought to neg you for that.
 
First I don't know what you are saying. You are not very coherent.

.

On what am I incoherent.? exactly..
other than revealing actual names.

I can tell you for most certain,, I would have lost my virginity much sooner,, if I could have.

and I was trying from about 12/13 or so. I left home at 16. been on my own since..
like most folk,, I had to unlearn a lot of crap on the way.

I can not fault the 14 yr old that succeed. nor for the angel that aided him.

You have absolutely no idea of what level of intellect resides in any body. at any given age.

Also I did not date much, I locked down my wife while we were young :).

How young?
and were you allowed to decide or was it chosen for you?
 
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:eek::mad:

I ought to neg you for that.

Suzy you will always be lovely :).

On what am I incoherent.? exactly..
other than revealing actual names.

I can tell you for most certain,, I would have lost my virginity much sooner,, if I could have.

and I was trying from about 12/13 or so. I left home at 16. been on my own since..
like most folk,, I had to unlearn a lot of crap on the way.

I can not fault the 14 yr old that succeed. nor for the angel that aided him.

You have absolutely no idea of what level of intellect resides in any body. at any given age.
Don't you think you are not a good example of a well balanced person? How many 16 year olds leave their house? I am not trying to say anything bad about you.

So it does not surprise me that you would describe a woman rapist to be an angel.


How young?
and were you allowed to decide or was it chosen for you?

16. It was not arranged. I am Russian orthodox my wife is Chinese. We have families that are intact and without troubles. So when we were young that is exactly what we were looking for.
 
It really is, though I admit that I am less offended by a younger boy with an older woman than I would be with it the other way around. One day the human race is going to have to face facts: girls are different from boys.

It's the other way around for me. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I've always preferred older men and because I'm thinking of myself at 24 and can't imagine a 14 year old boy as a sexual partner or because I'm the parent of a 15 year old boy and can't imagine what a 24 year old woman would see in him.
 
How many 16 year olds leave their house?


I am Russian orthodox my wife is Chinese. We have families that are intact and without troubles. So when we were young that is exactly what we were looking for.

A great many,,
Several notable historical figures,,,much better examples than myself.

I started working at 12,

I am 59 this year. I am still alive. (yeah,, I did the whole wealth and property thing.)

Sound interesting.. though it sounds rather political. did you meet on the playground..

I hope it is working out.
 
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A great many,,
Several notable historical figures,,,much better examples than myself.

I started working at 12,

I am 59 this year. I am still alive. (yeah,, I did the whole wealth and property thing.)

Sound interesting.. though it sounds rather political. did you meet on the playground..

I hope it is working out.

Snort. Playground. Times changed :).

I am happy you are doing well at 59.
 
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