Teacher had sex with her 8th grade student for a year, turned herself in.

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That woman needs to go to prison for a really long time for going after some half-wit looking dweebus like that. For Christ's sake, he looks like a fucking retard.
 
This was a young man and a young woman.

No, it wasn't. It was someone who was trained and licensed by the government, and paid by the government to be in charge of the boy, who was forced to be in her pigpen classroom. She abused her power. She put him in her personal vehicle and drove him around. She had sex with a minor who was under her authority as an agent of the government.

Does that put it in a different light for you?

Men who claim to be advocates of liberty need to realize that when someone in the government has sex with a minor, it is not just about a young man under the age of consent and a grown woman in authority over him. As much as he is not of an age to consent, she is also under a rule that says she cannot sleep with a student. If he is under the age to contract such a relationship, she is not only fully of age to contract, but she has officially made an agreement that she will not seek such a relationship.
 
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No, it wasn't. It was someone who was trained and licensed by the government, and paid by the government to be in charge of the boy, who was forced to be in her pigpen classroom. She abused her power. She put him in her personal vehicle and drove him around. She had sex with a minor who was under her authority as an agent of the government.

Does that put it in a different light for you?

Men who claim to be advocates of liberty need to realize that when someone in the government has sex with a minor, it is not just about a young man under the age of consent and a grown woman in authority over him. As much as he is not of an age to consent, she is also under a rule that says she cannot sleep with a student. If he is under the age to contract such a relationship, she is not only fully of age to contract, but she has officially made an agreement that she will not seek such a relationship.

I find the argument from contractual agreement or abuse of authority stronger than the age argument. Age is pretty arbitrary and doesn't indicate maturity.
 
I find the argument from contractual agreement or abuse of authority stronger than the age argument. Age is pretty arbitrary and doesn't indicate maturity.

Age is not the whole point. The point is the agreement the teacher accepted when she accepted her diploma and her teaching license from the government. Their permission, their rules. She cannot do what she did and claim to be the victim. She is of age to consent to the indoctrination, the diploma, and the licensure. She did so and received recompense for her presence in the classroom. She may not violate the terms of her agreement under any standard.
 
I find the argument from contractual agreement or abuse of authority stronger than the age argument. Age is pretty arbitrary and doesn't indicate maturity.

as do I,,
but that is where the focus is being put.

I agree with her being fired,, but I certainly can't condemn her for having consensual sex with a young man.

as to other points raised,,,

Government schools should not exist. They are child abuse.

"Abuse of Authority",?,,

I have never known authorities to be anything but abusive. History is full of example.
Power corrupts? no,, Power is corrupt.
 
I find the argument from contractual agreement or abuse of authority stronger than the age argument. Age is pretty arbitrary and doesn't indicate maturity.

It is not arbitrary. We don't stop forming our brains until late 20s. Age difference makes for a big difference in maturity. People who find someone much younger than them to be their equal in maturity have problems. I would not want such people around my child.
 
And that is what parents are for. You don't expose your children to people who may be dangerous.

I suppose you could keep them chained at home.
but that is frowned upon.

or you could educate them yourself,, and then trust them to make their own choices.

If your children are in Public School then you already abdicated your authority.

Make no mistake they will have sex. sooner or later

where do you want them to learn?
 
I suppose you could keep them chained at home.
but that is frowned upon.

or you could educate them yourself,, and then trust them to make their own choices.

If your children are in Public School then you already abdicated your authority.

Make no mistake they will have sex. sooner or later

where do you want them to learn?

You are not making sense.

Keeping children locked up and what school they are going to are not related to my argument. It is not relevant on how you introduce your children to sex. What is relevant is that age difference is bad because of all the reasons I mentioned. I am not discussing this particular instance beyond the age difference.

For example I also think the parents are no good for approving of this. And I do prefer homeschooling. But this is irrelevant.
 
She already had a daughter...

Vera is the mother of a 5-year-old girl,*according to her Facebook page.*She last posted a photo with her daughter on May 24. She also posted a photo in Disney World in April, after the investigation had already begun. Vera had been placed on leave on April 15.

She is the daughter of former Houston police officer Jaime Vera, a source told Heavy.com. Her father was fired by the police department in 2011 after a 13-year career that was clouded in controversy.
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http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/alexa...t-facebook-instagram-photos-pictures-mugshot/
 
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