Tax Whisper

actually... after listening to it again... I think it was the moderator whispering something to someone while trying to hold his hand over the mic.
 
amy31416 said:
So you admit to being gullible in *not* believing something so outrageous could be true?

I'll give myself the "touche" on that one, since I doubt you will. ;)
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Being skeptical and being gullible are the opposite, not the same.

If you must know, the notion that there could be some credence to the hypothesis doesn't come from my lack of critical thinking, nor does it come from being a conspiracy theorist (I'm absolutely not), nor do I come up with plainly idiotic suggestions-I didn't come up with this one, but I always look for more information and ask questions. Which is the thing that brought me around to Ron Paul, see. I'm a borderline obsessive-compulsive researcher. Some of the things that seem to be simple 'conspiracies' and easily brushed off, often have some credence to them. And I'm not talking about 9/11 or that sort of BS, I'm talking about the National ID, the slippery slope of the Patriot Act, manipulations of our economy, etc.

Not answering questions, implying I'm stupid for asking them is a ridiculous way to try to deal with anyone like myself. I'll only ask more questions and research it more. So, if Romney is being coached, I'd like to know and was interested in finding out, not concluding first that he was, and screaming it over the 'net.

With this issue, I'm honestly not even that interested in it because it will have zero negative affect on Romney and will not be covered, true or not. It was simply you avoiding the original questions and implying that I'm an idiot. My thought was not that you are a troll, but that you needed some help in communicating and reading comprehension.
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Saying "what was that whisper all about? Let's investigate and find out" is much, much different than saying "Romney was being fed answers, look here's proof!" So, don't position yourself as being mildly quizzical, go back and read the thread, you are challenging my assertion that the easiest and simplest answer is also the likely correct one (Occam's Razor, in other words). I'm also curious who said it and why, but I can tell you what's stupid to think: that it was somebody telling Mitt Romney what to say throughout the debate (that nobody else standing mere feet from him happened to notice, including our own Dr. Ron Paul, by the way).

And just because it's fun, let's see how you first addressed my statement:

Why are you defending Romney against this and that "who let the dogs out" video?

Why did MSNBC post something about it then immediately get rid of it with no explanation?

Why did Romney edit it out from his YouTube video?
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I had to remind you I'm not "defending" anybody, I'm saying that this whisper is not part of a secret plan to give Mitt Romney answers in his debates. I don't think you learned that type of rhetoric in debate class either. We now understand why MSNBC deleted it, so I don't have to answer that question for you. And we agree that any youtube video that edits it out is pointless, and I further question if "Romney" edited anything from a youtube video, but if I had to answer, it would be because it flows better without, but it's clearly complete folly to say he would edit any video to suppress truth when there are a billion of the same clips right next to it unedited.

I will say I should not have been so hard on you specifically, my disdain is for the ones who are freaking out with their hair on fire because they're convinced they have found a new Bilderberger conspiracy. It makes the whole campaign look idiotic because........ it's idiotic. Being inquisitive and skeptical is good, seeing patterns and conspiracies where they simply do not exist is foolish.

Having said all of this, how awesome if I'm completely wrong and there's a massive scandal tomorrow?
 
libertythor said:
Would tinyurl help?
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no, because then the http "referer" would all come from tinyurl. Turn referer tracking off in your browser, very few websites make good use of it, most use it to invade your privacy. Install RefControl if you use Firefox, Press 12 and uncheck "Enable referrer logging" if you use Opera.
 
That's utter BS that it came from the audience! It was definitely a whisper into or in very close proximity to a mic. you could hear the softness (ie breath) of the voice and a little bit of sibilance,, also if it was from the audience you would probably be able to notice somewhat of a room effect in the audio that would suggest a far distance in the voice/source. Also, unless they were using shotgun mics (which they definitely wouldn't be :D ) the words wouldn't be so distinguishable.

Also it seems like the master engineer/mixboard operator was having problems with cutting some mic channels/busses when going to break. Hence Russert's "did you see that"/"I don't believe it" remarks bleed before the break.


Now don't take what i stated up there without a grain of salt, i tinkered in audio prod in my youth and may be a little rusty ;)
 
MSNBCs way of saying "nothing to see here guys move along....."

Its so obvious they were practically pushing Mitt all year long. They gave him the most time, They worshiped him on all the pundit programs. just like Fox News did with Mccain.


I would love the for someone to add up the total amount of air time per candidate all year long. Fox News vs MSNBC.
 
I noticed it about 4pm Eastern time.

How weird is this getting?? Just like the other one. This is a split second before he repearts the exact word. To much of a coincdence...

Imagine if the media actually wanted to report this???!!
What has this country become???:(
 
Bruce4Ron said:
I'm sorry but that is total BS.

Their mic's are SO sensitive that they picked up a whisper from someone in the audience sitting 10-15 FEET behind the moderators !?!?!?!

How stupid do they think people are? Mitt Romney was SPOON FED!
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I know, if they were that good why didn't we hear people yawning the whole night? Or wouldn't we here an "excuse me" from someone going to the bathroom sometime during the debate?
 
Would a free audio program like "Audacity" work? I'm not familiar with the filtering options, but perhaps an audio technician (or enthusiast) might be able to find said "whispers" with enough fiddling.
 
Hahahahhaha this is getting nuts, full blown crazy... I don't want to insult you guys, but I honestly feel this is a huge wild goose chase. You will hear lots of sounds by scouring over audio (the second romney 'whisper' sounds nothing like a whisper), that doesn't point to any sort of nefarius plot at all... Why are you guys so obsessed (I count over 10 threads :|) ?
 
This whisper stuff is getting out of hand guys..

Hahahahhaha this is getting nuts, full blown crazy... I don't want to insult you guys, but I honestly feel this is a huge wild goose chase. You will hear lots of sounds by scouring over audio (the second romney 'whisper' sounds nothing like a whisper), that doesn't point to any sort of nefarius plot at all... Why are you guys so obsessed (I count over 10 threads :|) ?

If you listen to the debate the entire time you often hear little mumblings in the background, papers being shuffled (that's what I think the second romney 'whisper' is, you hear it through the entire little clips and it's loud at just one point) and moderators breathing...
 
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