Tax Rebate BS

[Libertytree]

Lisa,

I don't think you can opt out, though I could be wrong. If you sent it back you don't know that they will ever recognize that you indeed opted out. You do have options though, 1. Stick it in the bank and forget about it and use it next year for any tax liabilities you may incurr. 2. Use it to stock your pantry with canned goods, you very well might need them. 3. Buy gold or silver and sit on that for a year, you just might make a lil money in the process. 4. Use it to pay off any debt.

 

[rodent]

I personally tolerate the welfare sytem and recognize the need for improvement. You cannot simply solve the problem by cutting off the money. We need to focus on funding education and training for these people. Even if we do that however, we will still see a sizable welfare system and the inevitable leeches that accompany it.

What's the point of job training if the corporate overlords want foreign labor instead?

 

[Laughingcow]

Thanks for the explaination. I still would like to opt out. It's not free money. I can't help but feel that it will hurt us in the end because it creates a false business cycle. Businesses will react to the flood of money, but then when the consumer spending is down again, they will be stuck with extra head counts, extra inventory, on, and on...it will still fail in the long run.

Can we opt out?

 

[Laughingcow]

Lisa,

I don't think you can opt out, though I could be wrong. If you sent it back you don't know that they will ever recognize that you indeed opted out. You do have options though, 1. Stick it in the bank and forget about it and use it next year for any tax liabilities you may incurr. 2. Use it to stock your pantry with canned goods, you very well might need them. 3. Buy gold or silver and sit on that for a year, you just might make a lil money in the process. 4. Use it to pay off any debt.

Silver, Silver, Silver!!!!!

 

[FreedomFighter8008]

Don't get me started. I'm not getting any money back (because I made "too much" money - meaning I paid a bucket load of taxes) while people who didn't even pay any taxes are getting money back. WTF? How is that fair and how the heck does that qualify as a "rebate"?

 

[Libertytree]

"I can't believe Congress doesn't understand that."

They know what's going on! Ron Paul has been in their ass telling them for years. Those people aren't stupid, they're just covering their ass for the time being. You can bet that have a fall back plan when this house of cards collapses.

 

[rodent]

168 billion more debt that we owe for this "stimilus package". It's a short term "fix" and will only hurt us more in the long run. I can't believe Congress doesn't understand that.

I can believe it. Have you listened to some of the retards in Congress? In a perfect world I'd be able to kick Rangel in the butt and knock some sense into him.

 

[Libertytree]

The language Congress actually used is "prebate", though they didn't think the average person would understand it and resorted to using rebate, while in most cases it's a freebate.

 

[Libertytree]

LOL...Rangel, hahahaha.

They got that smuck to intorduce the Involuntary Service Acts, disguised as some political stunt. They know what they're doing!

 

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Hey am I stupid or is giving people money when they only made 3,000 dollars a year total Bullshit. I mean the average middle class family is spending 120 hours a week or more trying to live the so called good life while someone whom makes 3,000 dollars a year isn't doing crap. I mean come one if You work for 5 dollars an hour for 40 hours a week that is 10,000 dollars a year in 52 weeks. These people are only working like 10 - 15 hours a week and I am supposed to feel bad that they are poor.

I get so frustrated because I work on a boat away from my family 7 - 9 months a year with very few comforts living in confined space with dirty smelling dudes. Now I realize that is my choice in what I do to make a living. Now this is America the so called land of opportunity and plenty so would it stand to reason that people are poor in this country due to choice?

Now people think I am a jerk because I get uptight about taxes especially when I am taxed like 3.5K for a months worth of work. Now they say You're a jerk its for the POOR. These people act like if You are poor it's a infliction from GOD that can never be over come what soever.

Now let these people be on the loosing end and have to work 84 hours a week and have 33% of their check taken from them. I would imagine that these assholes that call me heartless will get pissed off real quick. These people would probably walk into a post office and blow people away if they had to spend all their time on call and away from their family 7 - 9 months a year living in gas station bath room conditions....


Tell me I am a selfish bastard because right now I am praying for economic collapse so the lazy pukes will starve like they deserve. I mean come on Jesus even said the poor will be around forever but He will not be around forever. You know what that means to me? It means that there will be people that work harder than others to get ahead while others will do just enough to get by. I am so tired of this unfair un-constitutional tax system that is robbing me of my reserves.

The DEMS want to help out all the POOR people that are loosing their homes... Oh poor people "pat on the head" we will help you... Now what happens when I loose my house .... Nothing You rich Asshole You made 77k last year.. You know if I had 33% more money especially when I worked like a mad man and stayed out of country 9 months my House would be paid off.

I wonder how many POOR people stay away from family and friends 9 months a year just to house their children and work toward a common family goal. I guess I am just a fool for going the extra mile and working for raises every year. We the middle class knows that the best raise You can get is to get knocked up out of high school and live a totally irresponcible life.

What do the poor really have to worry about in this country. Please tell me I want to know. We have families living in middle class homes paid for by HUD. You goto walmart and You can tell who is on welfare and whom is not by just looking into their cart. These people don;t worry about bills at all while working Americans have to worry every day weather We will loose our homes or not.

You know the LA riots happened because one black man was beat down by some idiot cops. I wonder when the American tax payer is going to get pissed off and RIOT because whats done to us is alot worse than some dude we don't even know getting beat down. Am I wrong for feeling like a slave?

I feel ya, even though I'm poor. I'm also in college. I take no handouts and I certainly feel the pain of inflation.

 

[lisajames96]

Silver, Silver, Silver!!!!!

I'm way ahead of ya, but DH is not letting me buy anymore, even with the refund. I will take the advice and save it, or donate it.
I wont spend it! I have family members who habitually work 3 months out of the year and received over $4000 back and we both work our butts off, away from our kids all day and we OWED money! I am tired of this whole system.
I was online today researching growing gardens so I can make sure we have a source of food in the future(if you knew me, you'd know how strange that is).
My hubby just wants the whole thing to collapse on the US to serve us right, but that scares me because we have 3 very little children...ranting over

 

[BigRedBrent]

but most people I've met on welfare are LAZY.

Yep, that sums me up. But to be fair I think I may have some mental problems, but I am to lazy to go and get it diagnosed.

But hey, at least Bush is sending me some money for nothing, that I intend to use for the Ron Paul campaign. I may have problems, but I try not to be selfish. I still try to do what is right even though it may hurt me the most. If only more people would do what was right even if it would be detrimental to themselves.

 

[TruthAtLast]

It's a short term "fix" and will only hurt us more in the long run.

Wrong. it wont fix anything. Not even in the short term. This is not going to increase consumer spending. People will save it (for future debt like the next house payment) or pay off existing debt (like a credit card).

And based on the explanation given previously in this thread where $50 is taken off for each $1000 you make above $75k... well I guess I'm getting something like NEGATIVE $6200. Woooo Hooo!

I'm not living in luxury and don't even own a home. But I guess my financial responsibility is punished. I didn't graduate from college but my tax dollars will go to help someone else in college. I made a responsible life choice NOT to have kids right now, but I guess I get FUCKED for that too, don't I? No $300 for me!

Meanwhile, feel free to take 33% of my earned wages (plus more because of the AMT).

Now this is the American Dream.... let's penalize productivity and ambition. Yay!