Tax Rebate BS

jkm1864

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Hey am I stupid or is giving people money when they only made 3,000 dollars a year total Bullshit. I mean the average middle class family is spending 120 hours a week or more trying to live the so called good life while someone whom makes 3,000 dollars a year isn't doing crap. I mean come one if You work for 5 dollars an hour for 40 hours a week that is 10,000 dollars a year in 52 weeks. These people are only working like 10 - 15 hours a week and I am supposed to feel bad that they are poor.

I get so frustrated because I work on a boat away from my family 7 - 9 months a year with very few comforts living in confined space with dirty smelling dudes. Now I realize that is my choice in what I do to make a living. Now this is America the so called land of opportunity and plenty so would it stand to reason that people are poor in this country due to choice?

Now people think I am a jerk because I get uptight about taxes especially when I am taxed like 3.5K for a months worth of work. Now they say You're a jerk its for the POOR. These people act like if You are poor it's a infliction from GOD that can never be over come what soever.

Now let these people be on the loosing end and have to work 84 hours a week and have 33% of their check taken from them. I would imagine that these assholes that call me heartless will get pissed off real quick. These people would probably walk into a post office and blow people away if they had to spend all their time on call and away from their family 7 - 9 months a year living in gas station bath room conditions....


Tell me I am a selfish bastard because right now I am praying for economic collapse so the lazy pukes will starve like they deserve. I mean come on Jesus even said the poor will be around forever but He will not be around forever. You know what that means to me? It means that there will be people that work harder than others to get ahead while others will do just enough to get by. I am so tired of this unfair un-constitutional tax system that is robbing me of my reserves.

The DEMS want to help out all the POOR people that are loosing their homes... Oh poor people "pat on the head" we will help you... Now what happens when I loose my house .... Nothing You rich Asshole You made 77k last year.. You know if I had 33% more money especially when I worked like a mad man and stayed out of country 9 months my House would be paid off.

I wonder how many POOR people stay away from family and friends 9 months a year just to house their children and work toward a common family goal. I guess I am just a fool for going the extra mile and working for raises every year. We the middle class knows that the best raise You can get is to get knocked up out of high school and live a totally irresponcible life.

What do the poor really have to worry about in this country. Please tell me I want to know. We have families living in middle class homes paid for by HUD. You goto walmart and You can tell who is on welfare and whom is not by just looking into their cart. These people don;t worry about bills at all while working Americans have to worry every day weather We will loose our homes or not.

You know the LA riots happened because one black man was beat down by some idiot cops. I wonder when the American tax payer is going to get pissed off and RIOT because whats done to us is alot worse than some dude we don't even know getting beat down. Am I wrong for feeling like a slave?
 
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You are a slave.

And it's time to rebel... shed the chains that bind you... And... oh! Look!
There a Second Declaration of Independence sitting there waiting for you to sign it!

Declare your freedom, revoke your consent, and show your "servant" who the master is.
 
I stopped reading after "Hey am I stupid or is giving people money"

No one is giving anyone money. It's a tax credit in advance of next year's tax refund.
 
Is wealth distribution a conservative principle? lol. That's what they're doing!!! You know, I thought that was something the socialists wanted? hmm
 
I stopped reading after "Hey am I stupid or is giving people money"

No one is giving anyone money. It's a tax credit in advance of next year's tax refund.

Dude, its money out of thin air...and the guy's point is that some lazy schmuck who'd makes all of $3000 a year gets the same amount as a hard working middle class dude who busts his ass 40++ hours a week.

He makes a good point wherein perhaps being poor is due alot to personal choice...and I agree with him. In this welfare, entitlement rich state we live in, IT PAYS TO BE POOR. I hate to say it, and forgive me it your on it, but most people I've met on welfare are LAZY.

Yes, LAZY. They have become beholden to Daddy Government. They are slaves every bit as much as we are...except with them, it is worse. They (the lazy ones) LIKE being slaves...All they do is work just enough to get by so that the welfare check comes every month...then they pay the $250 Section 8 rent for an apartment a person like me would have to pay $800 for. The rest they use to buy 47 inch plasma televisions and 22" rims for their P.O.S. used police cruiser. If you don't beleive me, move to a large city, get out of the subburbs, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

You say you stopped reading after, "Hey am I stupid or is giving people money..." Why don't you read the rest...the guy speaks THE TRUTH...and if you read my signaure, you'll see what the truth is good for. Ciao.:)
 
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Is wealth distribution a conservative principle? lol. That's what they're doing!!! You know, I thought that was something the socialists wanted? hmm

Amen, brother (or sister). Not only is it wealth redistribution, it is money out of thin air...it is FASCIST/COMUNIST in nature.
 
Amen, brother (or sister). Not only is it wealth redistribution, it is money out of thin air...it is FASCIST/COMUNIST in nature.

lol. It's extremely pathetic. They propose and pass these socialistic programs and then they preach about smaller government and free markets? Total hypocrites. And, guess what? They get away with it. True conservative voters STILL vote for these socialists that parade around as believers of the free market. It's ridiculous! :D. This is NOTHING but wealth distribution. I can't imagine the Democrats fighting this? Maybe fighting for MORE money to distribute (err steal and waste). Your party and your government...corrupt. No doubt about it. This is all just the systematic draining of the US treasury, why do you think they went to Iraq in the first place? To drain the economy, give the money to their friends and deal out contracts left and right. They're robbing you...us. It's not about oil, it's about the contracts.
 
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Hey am I stupid or is giving people money when they only made 3,000 dollars a year total Bullshit. I mean the average middle class family is spending 120 hours a week or more trying to live the so called good life while someone whom makes 3,000 dollars a year isn't doing crap. I mean come one if You work for 5 dollars an hour for 40 hours a week that is 10,000 dollars a year in 52 weeks. These people are only working like 10 - 15 hours a week and I am supposed to feel bad that they are poor.

So I left the working world to go back to school. I picked up a university job where they gave me a tuition credit. I lost a lot of salary switching jobs but managed to pick up $12000 in tuition benefits in 2007. Guess what? That $12000 is taxable income. God damned ridiculous. They want me to go to college (graduate school), get a higher education, but then they want to tax me on 12k income I never actually made.

So basically, I'm getting taxed on something that was granted to me for "free" in exchange for labor. The costs get tacked on as taxes.

These idiot democrats talk about making college affordable, but I blame this mess on them (and the big govt republicans.)
 
I feel your pain.

I made $75,000 and paid over $20,000 in taxes and now I apparently owe them $4,000 more!!! What the hell is $300 gonna do for me? My stoner friend said "sweet, I can buy some weed". I work my ass off and owe $4,000... my friend doesn't do shit and gets money. This system is so fucked.

I am supporting my girlfriend and she is having a baby any day.

And they take my money cause Im "rich" while the lazy bastards around us want their "free" health car and handouts. Who the hell do they think has to pay for it? WE DO!!!

I earned my heath care and I feel if you haven't earned yours... tough shit, get a new job.

It makes me sick every time I think about it.
 
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No one is giving anyone money. It's a tax credit in advance of next year's tax refund.

Horse shit! A lot the people getting this tax credit never paid tax to begin with. And even if it was an advance on next year's tax refund, who is to say they're currently working and will pay any tax? This is redistribution of wealth plain and simple.:rolleyes:
 
Dude, its money out of thin air...and the guy's point is that some lazy schmuck who'd makes all of $3000 a year gets the same amount as a hard working middle class dude who busts his ass 40++ hours a week.

He makes a good point wherein perhaps being poor is due alot to personal choice...and I agree with him. In this welfare, entitlement rich state we live in, IT PAYS TO BE POOR. I hate to say it, and forgive me it your on it, but most people I've met on welfare are LAZY.

Yes, LAZY. They have become beholden to Daddy Government. They are slaves every bit as much as we are...except with them, it is worse. They (the lazy ones) LIKE being slaves...All they do is work just enough to get by so that the welfare check comes every month...then they pay the $250 Section 8 rent for an apartment a person like me would have to pay $800 for. The rest they use to buy 47 inch plasma televisions and 22" rims for their P.O.S. used police cruiser. If you don't beleive me, move to a large city, get out of the subburbs, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

You say you stopped reading after, "Hey am I stupid or is giving people money..." Why don't you read the rest...the guy speaks THE TRUTH...and if you read my signaure, you'll see what the truth is good for. Ciao.:)

Dude. I know. The stimulus plan is pure stupidity. I just wanted to clarify what the "rebate" actually was because I just learned it was a "tax credit" not an actual rebate the way the gov is selling it.
 
Horse shit! A lot the people getting this tax credit never paid tax to begin with. And even if it was an advance on next year's tax refund, who is to say they're currently working and will pay any tax? This is redistribution of wealth plain and simple.:rolleyes:

Yes... I know. ^^^
 
I stopped reading after "Hey am I stupid or is giving people money"

No one is giving anyone money. It's a tax credit in advance of next year's tax refund.

Refunds are going to people who don't even pay taxes. The IRS has said that even if you don't pay taxes, to be sure and file a tax return so you can get your $300 check.
 
While I don't necessarily agree with you guys, you do have some valid points. The system is messed up. But the point of the refund check is to try to stop the recession/depression. They are trying to get people to spend money. So yes, you might have worked a lot more then poorer people, if they don't have money, they can't spend it. So it is giving them money to put INTO the economy. Now people are going to do exactly the opposite and horde the money. So no matter how stupid this plan was to begin with, it is likely to fail even more because of this. And everyone that works 20 hours a week isn't lazy. I am a college student at a engineering school, going to school full time, and I am working 20 hours a week. I would hardly call my self lazy. So yes, I believe I deserve this check just as much as you do when your working 40 hours a week.
 
I look at it as a bipartisan bribe, to make the sheeple think they actually care and are doing something to help them.

One lady said to me that I should be happy and grateful for their efforts on this. I replied to her that I would be happy and grateful if they would stop stealing from me the $100.00 or so that they take from me very week.

That's sadly the mindset we are up against.
 
RP voted No.

And, for me, I plan to do my part to screw with the package. I am not 'spending' it. I will actually be using it to pay my taxes for this year. :)

And, save the rest.
 
While I don't necessarily agree with you guys, you do have some valid points. The system is messed up. But the point of the refund check is to try to stop the recession/depression. They are trying to get people to spend money. So yes, you might have worked a lot more then poorer people, if they don't have money, they can't spend it. So it is giving them money to put INTO the economy. Now people are going to do exactly the opposite and horde the money. So no matter how stupid this plan was to begin with, it is likely to fail even more because of this. And everyone that works 20 hours a week isn't lazy. I am a college student at a engineering school, going to school full time, and I am working 20 hours a week. I would hardly call my self lazy. So yes, I believe I deserve this check just as much as you do when your working 40 hours a week.

I couldn't care less what they intend for us to do with the money. The fact is, it's welfare if you receive more back than you've paid in taxes. If you work 20 hours a week, you probably don't fall into this category, though you certainly don't deserve as much as people who have made more money. If they're going to do this, I don't see why it isn't done as a percentage rebate on taxes paid for 2007.
 
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