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[driller80545]

Believe it or not but there are some of us old people around who can still remember a time before tv. And Swath is right, old people are afraid of the Arabs (and want to turn them into Ozzie and Harriet HA). I have been successful in convincing them 100% that we are in more danger with our troops overseas than we would be with them here at home, but it is a long arguement full of tiny steps and not easily done.

 

[thuja]

I think in order to win the older vote Ron's gotta get on tv. My grandparents only watch Fox News, their main issue is killing the Arabs before they kill us and forcing the rest of them to be wholesome Ozzie and Harriets for their own good. I can't get through to them. All I hear is "he want's to leave Iraq, he must be a liberal", "he can't win", "I don't know, I never see him on the news", "I heard Hannity say he got all that money from George Soros and credit card scams", "I like some of what he says but he can't win, I never see him on tv". Unbelievably frustrating the stranglehold the media has. It's like they can't believe their own eyes until they receive validation from the media.

i know an old fox watcher. he needs a little shock, so i have to get that fox expose on vcr for him. then we will see if he keeps paroting what he hears on fox

after this, i will try to explain why he should vote for RP.

.

 

[BeFranklin]

None of your post hurts me because it's far too easy to see for what it is, and it'll take a helluva lot more than some post in a forum to hurt me.
[...]
Take the damned thread for what it's worth. Jump on board and quit looking for crap to argue about.
Bosso

More cussing. You ought to feel hurt. Its called having a conscience. When you try to hurt other people, say untrue or hypocritical things, inflate your ego, in the end you are just hurting yourself.

If you claim you don't know that now, you will know it soon when you die and meet the Lord.

 

[BeFranklin]

you criticize us for criticizing others, don't you find that a little ironic?

No, they're tone death.

And their generation did cause the problem. Ron Paul is an exception, not apparently the rule, or everyone would be voting for him.

 

[BeFranklin]

This thread convinces me more than any other that the older generation is the problem. I guess they truly hated everyone else. Accepting things like torturing people and tasoring others, that is really the only explanation.

In my family, older people protected the younger. If that isn't the issue of this election, I'm not sure what is.
We don't care of its evil, but make sure you cut your hair and don't throw a snowball.

 

[driller80545]

I have a few times now heard that my generation is responsible for all the problems in the country today. Do you have any idea of the country that we inherited. It hasn't been a lost cause. Please study some history and then lets get back on the same page together working for a common goal.

 

[slamhead]

My precinct has a retirement community...100+ homes. I canvased there and was glad when I was done. Having them change their minds from what the TV is telling them is extremely hard. I don't think I converted but 3 people there. They are set in their ways and many of them voted long ago by absentee ballot. Many of them did not have internet so I could not even get them on the RP website.

I don't know how to get that vote. On the bright side...during our sign waiving today there were many seniors that were giving us thumbs up.

 

[driller80545]

Perseverence works with old people. They respect someone who believes in what they are doing. They take longer to change their minds, but they do pay attention when someone is sincere.

 

[Dustancostine]

Great Post

 

[pacelli]

If you are canvassing to an elderly couple or person, the deal changes quite a bit.

These folks have been through numerous campaigns in their lives, and many are used to the "old-fashioned" way of canvassing. If you do not pay respect to this simple fact, you'll give them literature and be on your way. Or, they'll see you and not answer the door.

A good strategy that I've been using to canvass the elderly in my precinct involves the following: Shirt, Tie, Jacket. Name tag. Ron Paul button. Since I have a crew cut, I wear a cloth driving cap which is a design I've seen many elderly gentlemen wearing around the neighborhood.

I ring the doorbell and stand at least 5 feet away from the door, even if that requires me to go down steps. If the door opens in a minute and the homeowner(s) appears, my script goes like this:

"Hello Sir/Ma'am/Folks my name is Dr. X and I'm volunteering for a political campaign. I have some papers that you might find to be of interest - did I catch you at a bad time?"

From there, if they are interested they usually ask about one of my keywords - "which political campaign", "what are the papers about?". Then I'll tell them the information they want, and try to engage them in a little light conversation while I'm getting their hand-out.

If they aren't interested, they'll say "it is a bad time". Then I'll say, "well here are some things you might want to examine when you have a chance, sorry to interrupt your day".

It is as simple as that.

 

[Revolution9]

I have a few times now heard that my generation is responsible for all the problems in the country today. Do you have any idea of the country that we inherited. It hasn't been a lost cause. Please study some history and then lets get back on the same page together working for a common goal.

I was born in 1957. I am from the generation coming right after the baby boomers, who have some responsibility as well. I have accomplished some huge projects like landmark sculptures, had high level careers and should be quite wealthy right now..but I kept getting furiously disgusted with the people I was around, the methods they would devise to make a profit and their lack of care in what they process brought about in the real world. They grubbed literally for money and thought they had class because of it.. I was always the wierd genius in the rafters they came to to simplify tech for salespeople, come up with ads, bu7ild giant megaton statues, devise a method for driving a 45 foot Aztec eagle puppet make architectural blueprints, create hacking counter-intel teams, write commodity contracts and whatever was too complex for their materially acquisitive minds to wrap around. Maybe I am too much of an idealist but I do not belong in their society as it stands/sinks. I sold my vehicle when they went into Bagdhad. My maker knows I would be a raging hypocrite to consume oil to get where I really didn't need to go and people were dying due to greed over the commodity. I refused to participate. I have legs and everything is close by.

Yes.. The baby boomers and those who became the disco and the beginning of the new wave generation fucked this country. They cared about nothing but acquiring status and sex. Being smart was a good way to get shut up..nobody wanted to hear about politics and the TV ruled supreme. I dropped out as I was from a mindset I had cultivated through study of the classics of arts, philosophy and literature. These clowns were not what I wanted to be amongst .. The getting cuffed for providing a means of defense to an outnumbered and weaponless man against someone seven inches and 50 pounds heavier with three pals waiting to jump in is an indication of the moral turpitude these generations have laden us with.

Randy

 

[driller80545]

If you are canvassing to an elderly couple or person, the deal changes quite a bit.

These folks have been through numerous campaigns in their lives, and many are used to the "old-fashioned" way of canvassing. If you do not pay respect to this simple fact, you'll give them literature and be on your way. Or, they'll see you and not answer the door.

A good strategy that I've been using to canvass the elderly in my precinct involves the following: Shirt, Tie, Jacket. Name tag. Ron Paul button. Since I have a crew cut, I wear a cloth driving cap which is a design I've seen many elderly gentlemen wearing around the neighborhood.

I ring the doorbell and stand at least 5 feet away from the door, even if that requires me to go down steps. If the door opens in a minute and the homeowner(s) appears, my script goes like this:

"Hello Sir/Ma'am/Folks my name is Dr. X and I'm volunteering for a political campaign. I have some papers that you might find to be of interest - did I catch you at a bad time?"

From there, if they are interested they usually ask about one of my keywords - "which political campaign", "what are the papers about?". Then I'll tell them the information they want, and try to engage them in a little light conversation while I'm getting their hand-out.

If they aren't interested, they'll say "it is a bad time". Then I'll say, "well here are some things you might want to examine when you have a chance, sorry to interrupt your day".

It is as simple as that.

Bump

 

[Mark]

If you are canvassing to an elderly couple or person, the deal changes quite a bit.

These folks have been through numerous campaigns in their lives, and many are used to the "old-fashioned" way of canvassing. If you do not pay respect to this simple fact, you'll give them literature and be on your way. Or, they'll see you and not answer the door.

A good strategy that I've been using to canvass the elderly in my precinct involves the following: Shirt, Tie, Jacket. Name tag. Ron Paul button. Since I have a crew cut, I wear a cloth driving cap which is a design I've seen many elderly gentlemen wearing around the neighborhood.

I ring the doorbell and stand at least 5 feet away from the door, even if that requires me to go down steps. If the door opens in a minute and the homeowner(s) appears, my script goes like this:

"Hello Sir/Ma'am/Folks my name is Dr. X and I'm volunteering for a political campaign. I have some papers that you might find to be of interest - did I catch you at a bad time?"

From there, if they are interested they usually ask about one of my keywords - "which political campaign", "what are the papers about?". Then I'll tell them the information they want, and try to engage them in a little light conversation while I'm getting their hand-out.

If they aren't interested, they'll say "it is a bad time". Then I'll say, "well here are some things you might want to examine when you have a chance, sorry to interrupt your day".

It is as simple as that.

Wow, now THAT'S effective. You should have entered psychology.

 

[BeFranklin]

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[driller80545]

ummm are we still trying to get the older voters here

 

[pinkmandy]

Nicely done! Volunteer, do nice things...wear your RP shirts, talk RP, take out someone's trash...anything! They will vote for NICE. That's what they do. If they like YOU and you ask them to vote for RP for you, quite a few will actuall go do that! Young people could get together in groups and be RP senior volunteers. Just go to helpful things like offer to change lightbulbs for them, take out their trash, little things. And be respectful, it goes a long long way.

 

[Highstreet]

Amen.

I may call my grandma this weekend.

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

+1 from this 21 year old

 

[Dave Pedersen]

Remember in the Florida debate Tim Russert asked Ron about social security? Tim quoted an old statement that Ron wanted to abolish social security and then in the debate asked him if he still wanted to abolish social security, pointing out that there were 3.5 million social security recipients in the state of Florida. Ron didn't back down and did a great job of explaining that he was ironically the best hope for people on social security even though he supported its eventual dissolution.

I'm 50. My momma just had her 86th birthday and we talk about Ron Paul and she watches the debates with me. She can see for sure Ron doesn't get as much time as the others and I even helped her donate ten bucks on the Tea Party..

I started this new thread a while back and so here's the link you can check it out if you haven't seen it. Thanks.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=97207

 

[Crickett]

Well, I, too, am a fairly old fart. So all the hygiene stuff is important, and not crowding the door is important. The local ads in the paper EVERY day if you can swing it..even a personals classified ad would be great. Seeing it in the paper MANY or EVERY day will make it seem much more familiar. ALso, some of us are not happy with the way things are going. So, if you came to my door, and said you lived in my voting precinct, and you wondered what issues were impt to me, or you wondered if I was happy with the way the govt. was running the country, you would already get me talking. If I didn't mention it, then you could ask me what was my most important issue. If I said something RPish, you could ask me if I was going to vote democrat or republican, because if I was a dem, then it is too late to change. Then you could always at any point say that you are voting for Ron Paul because of that, too..ask them to look at some of your literature on RP. That would be my talk on the subject, as an authority.