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[Cyclone]

My experience is that old people are scared of the terrorists. They are not scared of the economy failing. Not here in America. Impossible. I'm not saying they are right, I'm saying that is the way they are.
We must convince old folks that RP's foriegn policy will make them safer, and it will. They also must be convinced that leaving Iraq is not surrender and another war lost.
They can be convinced, I have done it. But it is not a quick fix and must be proven with logic, not noise. They will listen if you speak logically, but as soon as you become aggressive in any percieved way, they are gone. Its like foreplay, the gentler you are, the farther you're gonna get.

Then boy, you have never tried to live on a fixed income. Are you out of your mind? They ain't gonna be drafted. Most of them live in places where a terrorist would have to be bored out of his mind to go. ALL they care about is whether or not their money is going to make it to the end of their life or if they are going to go broke before they die. That is a big worry, and when you are unable to work anymore you will understand it.

I just have to say this. When you write for Ron Paul or go door to door for him, be professional and that includes using SPELL CHECK when you post. This whole board is full of illiterates and it makes us all look bad. I before E except after C. Perceived. Foreign is one of the exceptions where the E comes before the I.

The people on this board don't know the difference between its and it's, their, there and they're, your and you're. These are things I learned in second grade. I would not have gotten past fourth grade spelling like that. And today you have computers to spell for you and check your grammar.

 

[jjockers]

You just compared winning a senior to Ron Paul with enticing your partner to sex.

+1

bump, excellent post!

Should make a checklist before heading out to canvas

 

[Abyss]

You just compared winning a senior to Ron Paul with enticing your partner to sex.

Now if we can make winning seniors as popular as sex.

anyway bump

 

[driller80545]

You just compared winning a senior to Ron Paul with enticing your partner to sex.

Yes, and both can very difficult and take lots of diplomacy.

 

[Sey.Naci]

I'm 24 and agree with you. Sadly the older folks only watch Fox News for their info, I don't know how we can reach out more to this group, someone from this older age group needs to step up with the plan.

Well there you go generalizing. THIS 'older folk' has NEVER watched Fox News. Indeed, for most of my life that network wasn't around. Since people tend to stick with what's familiar, it's quite possible that we old ones have been watching more of ABC, CBS, and NBC instead of FOX.

 

[BreakYourChains]

Bump

 

[MsDoodahs]

Either we figure out how to accomplish this, or we have to wait for the younger generation to age before we can have a POTUS like Ron Paul.

And herein lies the problem: the younger generation is trapped within the system (think Social Security) and by the time you've aged, you have paid in sooooo much money that you will no longer WANT the system to be changed because if it does get changed, you'll be shortchanged.

 

[driller80545]

Then boy, you have never tried to live on a fixed income. Are you out of your mind? They ain't gonna be drafted. Most of them live in places where a terrorist would have to be bored out of his mind to go. ALL they care about is whether or not their money is going to make it to the end of their life or if they are going to go broke before they die. That is a big worry, and when you are unable to work anymore you will understand it.

I just have to say this. When you write for Ron Paul or go door to door for him, be professional and that includes using SPELL CHECK when you post. This whole board is full of illiterates and it makes us all look bad. I before E except after C. Perceived. Foreign is one of the exceptions where the E comes before the I.

The people on this board don't know the difference between its and it's, their, there and they're, your and you're. These are things I learned in second grade. I would not have gotten past fourth grade spelling like that. And today you have computers to spell for you and check your grammar.

I am retired and live on a fixed income. and no longer interested in spelling bees.

 

[Abyss]

And herein lies the problem: the younger generation is trapped within the system (think Social Security) and by the time you've aged, you have paid in sooooo much money that you will no longer WANT the system to be changed because if it does get changed, you'll be shortchanged.

That is why we need to explain that they will NOT be shortchanged. We can get the youth out (which is what they wanted before) and keep them going (even better) if we bring the troops home.

 

[phree]

I'm 24 and agree with you. Sadly the older folks only watch Fox News for their info, I don't know how we can reach out more to this group, someone from this older age group needs to step up with the plan.

Well for starters...

"Now stop your whining and go think of ways to correct this crap."

I'm sure you all know some old people. Use them for inspiration.


PS. I love you MsDoodahs ma'am.

 

[virgil47]

MSDOODAH, you are a woman after my own heart. I believe we are most likely in the same age group and have had similar life experiences. I truly hope the young movers and shakers in the Ron Paul grassroots see the light and start trying to recruit more and more older americans. They should all memorize your post and then make use of that information to become proactive in the recruitment of their grandparents, neighbors and local senior citizens.

 

[pcosmar]

Yes and No

I got to speak my mind on this.
I agree with the spirit of your post. More attention needs to go to getting older voters.
But before I do that, well this is me. I am 50 and my wife is 62.

I have gotten upset at people bashing the young people, for their zeal, passion or enthusiasm.
There are many "older" supporters that are also loud and proud. I met some at Mackinac Island that were older than me.
I have spoken to folks in my area, My Pastor likes Ron Paul but won't preach it from the pulpit.
Some in my church like him, some are convinced that he has no chance.
And the real unfortunate reality is that some are just STUPID. I know I have spoken to them, and can find no logical thinking process. They think Rudy is Conservative , cause they say so on TV.
Many do not use computers.
Until they see him ON TV, all day long. they are not going to consider him a candidate.
They will not research, they do not think. They will be herded.
It sucks, but it is true.
My 82 year old mother is intelligent, She looked at the material,and she watched the first debate.
"he was the only one that made any sense." was her response.
Some people get it.
I don't see people getting turned off of Rons Message by some loud kids, most folks don't care.
I agree that we should be the best ambassadors we can, but at the end of the day it comes down to the message and not the delivery.
Some people just don't get it.

 

[LionHeart87]

bump for significance

 

[Spirit of '76]

Thread of the month.

 

[driller80545]

I spend a lot of time with "old" people and do find that they get most of their info from media. But they can be convinced with the facts if you are willing to treat them with respect.
PS. This post not proof read for mistakes in grammar

 

[Cyclone]

I am retired and live on a fixed income. and no longer interested in spelling bees.

So are you more interested in being safe (foreign policy) or keeping your money safe? (SS, inflation tax, the economy in general). I am in your shoes as well and for me it is no contest. I am dead without the money for sure, I don't know if I will ever get hit by a terrorist. How about you?

 

[FreeTraveler]

You're preachin' to the choir, here, MsDoodahs, but thanks for such a great sermon! If all the young ones would polish up a little and go visit the local retirement centers and senior citizen centers for a couple of hours, Ron Paul would be winning. As an "oldie" of sorts myself (55) I appreciate what you had to say about scaring folks, too. Myself, I'm likely to be out there chanting and chasin' myself, but it won't be around old folks, and it won't be in front of cameras!

 

[Cyclone]

I spend a lot of time with "old" people and do find that they get most of their info from media. But they can be convinced with the facts if you are willing to treat them with respect.
PS. This post not proof read for mistakes in grammar

Clearly or you would have known that both post and script are abbreviated and therefore you need a period after the P as well as the S and sentences end in periods.

 

[freedom-maniac]

Bump...for...whatever.

 

[imaginegirl]

I wholeheartedly AGREE. Our months of research & a well-written article turned my liberal grandmother around (who only cares about her Social Security check)... check here for what we discussed with her:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=102207

& use it on your own "old folks"! We're printing out copies she can give all her old lady friends at church.. & you know how those older ladies find out everything about everybody. Get it in their hands & it could spread like wildfire. And if they're like my grandma, they'll have time to read the entire thing, so don't worry about how long it is. (above thread).

Oh - "their" is another one of those I before E exceptions... yeah, I'm an editor & it drives me crazy, too.