Taking the Pulse of RonPaulForums.com - Please assess Lawyers for Ron Paul

[Constitutional Paulicy]

I am concerned that this isn't going to be recognized by the court of public opinion. If it goes unnoticed by the masses, it will be easily dismissed.

 

[RonRules]

I am concerned that this isn't going to be recognized by the court of public opinion. If it goes unnoticed by the masses, it will be easily dismissed.

What matters is that the delegates be unbound and I think the case is strong.

Once that happens, the delegate vote in Tampa cannot be ignored.

If we can have criminal charges on the GOP/Romney, then the media has to cover it.

But we also have citizens media or alternative media. It is important to produce our own media and encourage it.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

It is important to produce our own media and encourage it.

Right. This is what I'm eluding to. If we don't have a greater public awareness of our cause, the courts will find it easy to "brush it under the rug" as they say. We need be certain that the powers that be are under the microscope.

 

[G-Wohl]

What I think is that you are rather new and asking "interesting" (and I do not mean that in a good way) questions...

Things perhaps not best for the world (or supporters of other candidates/political contractors - AHEM!) to see...

If I was doing opposition research for mittens - that's a question I would ask. Lets keep this under the hood guy. At least put it in a private sub-form that google and twitter doesn't broadcast!!!

-t

-t

I really wish people would stop posting crap like this. Even if this ridiculously unfounded conspiracy theory were true, what difference does it make?

People like you need to stop sucking Alex Jones' dick all the time - and I don't care how long you've been a member here, acting like this is just plain rude, and doesn't help our cause of legitimizing our political goals at all. Everyone here needs to stop and think about what a layperson would think if they read some of the bullshit that is routinely posted in this public forum. This is the kind of bullshit that doomed Peter Schiff's Senate campaign, and it didn't help our cause for RP2012 this time around either.

 

[ChristopherShelley]

I thought most states have been served?

PLEASE SPREAD THIS FAR AND WIDE! We NEED 14 more process servers! Be part of this historic project to take back our country! Anyone over the age of 18 may serve the papers in regard to the suit against the RNC and GOP for election fraud.



Check the states needed and if you can serve, please e-mail [email protected] and include a phone number to contact you back and wait for further instructions.



As of 06/22/2012, we need process servers in: DE, HI, ID, KY, MS, NC, ND, NE, NV, PA, RI, SD, TN, WV, WY



A Federal Class Action Civil/Voting Rights Lawsuit was filed against the RNC/GOP on 06/11/12, to view this case, you can go to www.electionfraudremedy.com

 

[MrWalker]

I think they are the only people that really fight for the revolution. They are the only thing that really scares the Romney side, now that the main brass has given in to Romney.

If Ron Paul is still going to have any cards left when he reaches Tampa, hed better hold on to them and their uncompromising stance on the Revolution.

 

[Carlybee]

PLEASE SPREAD THIS FAR AND WIDE! We NEED 14 more process servers! Be part of this historic project to take back our country! Anyone over the age of 18 may serve the papers in regard to the suit against the RNC and GOP for election fraud.



Check the states needed and if you can serve, please e-mail [email protected] and include a phone number to contact you back and wait for further instructions.



As of 06/22/2012, we need process servers in: DE, HI, ID, KY, MS, NC, ND, NE, NV, PA, RI, SD, TN, WV, WY



A Federal Class Action Civil/Voting Rights Lawsuit was filed against the RNC/GOP on 06/11/12, to view this case, you can go to www.electionfraudremedy.com

Why dont they just hire some process servers and ask for a chipin?

 

[jethro654]

Process servers are being hired.. and the list is dwindling, I WISH I could have seen Rience Prebus's face when he got his. "priceless" I imagine. BTW, You all rock!! AND, in the case, we ask for injunctive relief, THIS is the clause that covers the fraud, and illegal activities...can anyone say...HELL YEAH !! We have so much evidence, wow. I knew it was bad, but I didnt have a clue, until it all started coming in...Thank you Guys again, and I will post more as I get it, right now, getting these last few states served is tops on the agenda.

Jerry E. Davis, Legal Researcher, L4RP.

 

[Carson]

There is one really passionate guy at the center of this. The lawyers have cred. They are getting tons of support from actual delegates. They are taking the fight to where most of us simply can't.

One of the areas that Ron Paul himself has said he is not interested in is fighting legal battles. That is fine. I see this as the liberty movement growing and branching out.

The case will be heard. There is a good chance something comes out of it that we'll like.

I never really wanted to waste time pursuing someone in a lawsuit...but then again that is what a lot of lawyers live for.

It is about time we stood up for ourselves...or at least allow an attorney a chance to right some wrong that has happened to some very good people.



ChristopherShelley,

Thanks for stepping up and doing the serving the lawsuit thing on Republican Party of Maryland in Annapolis.


P.S. Perhaps it was hurting the party more to not do anything about some of the abuse.

 

[dannno]

Are any of you available to be process servers? It's really easy.

I can only do it if I have a sketchy yet comical drug dealer in tow.

 

[torchbearer]

Process servers are being hired.. and the list is dwindling, I WISH I could have seen Rience Prebus's face when he got his. "priceless" I imagine. BTW, You all rock!! AND, in the case, we ask for injunctive relief, THIS is the clause that covers the fraud, and illegal activities...can anyone say...HELL YEAH !! We have so much evidence, wow. I knew it was bad, but I didnt have a clue, until it all started coming in...Thank you Guys again, and I will post more as I get it, right now, getting these last few states served is tops on the agenda.

Jerry E. Davis, Legal Researcher, L4RP.

+rep to you sir.
thank you.

 

[ChristopherShelley]

I apologize for not getting back to people today. I will be focused on these posts for the rest of tonight and this weekend.

Thank you for your patience!

 

[LopTarDaBoo]

My overall, uninformed impression of the group is negative because:

A) Even though I follow a lot of Paul news, I haven't seen a good, concise summary of why they are suing and who they are suing.

B) From what little I've read they've decided to sue the entire GOP instead of targeting specific state committees and violations of the law.

C) We've been doing work at the local level to find common ground with GOP members and encourage them to get back to limited government policy, and this damages that process.

I would love to have my impression changed. It seems like enough shit has gone down that we could have really good cases in a handful of states, rather than this shotgun approach.

 

[ChristopherShelley]

My overall, uninformed impression of the group is negative because:

A) Even though I follow a lot of Paul news, I haven't seen a good, concise summary of why they are suing and who they are suing.

B) From what little I've read they've decided to sue the entire GOP instead of targeting specific state committees and violations of the law.

C) We've been doing work at the local level to find common ground with GOP members and encourage them to get back to limited government policy, and this damages that process.

I would love to have my impression changed. It seems like enough shit has gone down that we could have really good cases in a handful of states, rather than this shotgun approach.

I understand your concerns, and though I can't speak to the legal strategy, as I am not qualified, I can say that to me their lawsuit makes sense because they are basically asking a federal judge to rule that all delegates at the RNC will be able to vote their conscience. I can't see ANYTHING wrong with that!

I recommend you join their facebook group, if you are on facebook.

There is a "mirror" site http://wtpnetwork.com/lfrp for non-facebookers.

Thanks!

PS I will also be posting links to the various interviews and documents this weekend that are available so that people can get info straight from the source. Here is the longest and most comprehensive of the 3 radio interviews that I have heard:

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=118018&cmd=tc

Episode 6/14 is the longest and most comprehensive. 6/21 - actual interview regarding LFRP starts at about 50 min in.

 

[ChristopherShelley]

I have to admit, I don't know a lot of the details about the suit. I really need to do a bit more research.

With that said, I'm a little afraid of the blow back, honestly. I agree that anyone who intimidated delegates (and those jerks that actually physically harmed our guys LA) need to be held accountable, absolutely. But I'm a little worried about a blanket lawsuit to get all delegates unbound. I understand the reasoning, but do we actually have the delegates to to win if this succeeds? Would Ron Paul accept the nomination if this happened?

I fear that the only thing that this will accomplish is further the narrative in the media (and within the upper ranks of the leadership of the state parties, where delegate selection rules are made for 2016 and on...) that somehow we are stealing delegates, etc. I have heard state leadership talk about this very thing.

I also worry that this might hamper our efforts to infiltrate our local parties.

EDIT: I reread my post and I hope it doesn't sound too negative. If there was fraud in your state, then I support this (I know there were some tricks played at the Colorado conventions, and there weren't even any bones broken). But if this is a blanket lawsuit I have some reservations.

Hey Monotaur,

Don't worry, your posts can't be to negative for this thread. I wanted to get peoples opinions because I saw a divide as to the perception of the group and I wanted to see what people thought.

I would argue that delegates have been stolen from us, and that LFRP is trying to get them back.

I have no idea what will happen, whether LFRP wins or loses. I just thought this was an opportunity that could do a lot of good things.

Thanks!

 

[ChristopherShelley]

There is one really passionate guy at the center of this. The lawyers have cred. They are getting tons of support from actual delegates. They are taking the fight to where most of us simply can't.

One of the areas that Ron Paul himself has said he is not interested in is fighting legal battles. That is fine. I see this as the liberty movement growing and branching out.

The case will be heard. There is a good chance something comes out of it that we'll like.

Hey newbitech,

I believe you're speaking of Richard Gilbert? Yeah, he gets poetic about this stuff when he speaks, imo. He's pissed off!

The case will be heard!

Thanks!

 

[ChristopherShelley]

What I think is that you are rather new and asking "interesting" (and I do not mean that in a good way) questions...

Things perhaps not best for the world (or supporters of other candidates/political contractors - AHEM!) to see...

If I was doing opposition research for mittens - that's a question I would ask. Lets keep this under the hood guy. At least put it in a private sub-form that google and twitter doesn't broadcast!!!

-t



-t

Can you please pm me and expound? I am not trying to do damage here but if I am I need to be told so I can stop.

Thanks.

 

[ChristopherShelley]

my outburst

 

[ChristopherShelley]

my outburst part 2

 

[tod evans]

Chill out man........

Post what you've got access to.

Some of us appreciate the effort.