SWAT flash-bangs toddler in play pen - the "Baby Bou Bou" saga

[thoughtomator]

The saddest part is that this was totally predictable.

Wonder when we get to the point where they just pick some random bystander and charge him with the crime, because F you.

 

[moostraks]

This seems to be the newest tactic for covering their butts and legitimizing the most heinous and violent acts. Neat trick on their part to have the DA in their back pocket like they do. Now not only can they cry about how they are not morally responsible but they can start to silence future outrage with the fear that legal responsibility for the state's abuses can be reassigned at will.

 

[Root]

I want those cops hung.

+1

 

[CaptUSA]

CNN has updates on the story of the Georgia SWAT team that threw a flash bang while executing a no-knock warrant that severely burned a nineteen-month-old baby. Habersham County Sheriff Joey Terrell says the deputies involved are "devastated" and that they've been called "baby killers" and received threats. "All I can say is pray for the baby, his family and for us," the sheriff told CNN.

Pray for them?!!!

Ok...

I pray that one day you will understand the crimes you are committing.
I pray that one day you will understand that you did this because your bosses told you it was OK.
I pray that one day you will understand how sick it is to use violence to stop non-violent activity.
I pray that one day you will understand you are engaged in a war on your fellow Americans.
Finally, I pray that you come to this understanding before you burn in hell for eternity.

Until then, Fuck You.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Pray for them?!!!

Ok...

I pray that one day you will understand the crimes you are committing.
I pray that one day you will understand that you did this because your bosses told you it was OK.
I pray that one day you will understand how sick it is to use violence to stop non-violent activity.
I pray that one day you will understand you are engaged in a war on your fellow Americans.
Finally, I pray that you come to this understanding before you burn in hell for eternity.

Until then, Fuck You.

I second this prayer. All in favor??

 

[fisharmor]

I want those cops hung.

See sig line.

If they ever did get charged with anything (and we both know that's not going to happen) then it would be on the premise that they've broken the state's rules.
It would have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they harmed another human being. Our legal system has no concept whatsoever of victims. Since victims aren't necessary for there to be a crime, since it's just about breaking the state's rules, an agent of the state, acting on behalf of the state, cannot legally be breaking its rules.

The state directed these people to do exactly the things they did.
If anything serious did happen to these men at the hands of the legal system, it would be nothing more than a show trial to get the crowd of 1000 rifle-wielding citizens standing outside the police station to agree not to burn the place down with everyone inside.

But they're short about 1000 people for that scenario. And one reason why you're never going to get 1000 people to go along with that is because at least one of those is going to point out that show trials are not justice. And then someone else is going to recognize that killing them isn't justice. And then when everyone's discussing the topic of justice, we might all realize there's a complete void there, and what we were taught is justice, since we were that burned kid's age, is anything but justice.

We all need to slow the hell down here and recognize just how monkey fucked this system is. Our legal system is incapable of regularly producing justice and has been since day one.

So before we go lynching folk, we ought to have an idea what things are going to look like when we're done. And "anything but that" is not a complete enough answer to justify grabbing ropes.

 

[JK/SEA]

See sig line.

If they ever did get charged with anything (and we both know that's not going to happen) then it would be on the premise that they've broken the state's rules.
It would have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they harmed another human being. Our legal system has no concept whatsoever of victims. Since victims aren't necessary for there to be a crime, since it's just about breaking the state's rules, an agent of the state, acting on behalf of the state, cannot legally be breaking its rules.

The state directed these people to do exactly the things they did.
If anything serious did happen to these men at the hands of the legal system, it would be nothing more than a show trial to get the crowd of 1000 rifle-wielding citizens standing outside the police station to agree not to burn the place down with everyone inside.

But they're short about 1000 people for that scenario. And one reason why you're never going to get 1000 people to go along with that is because at least one of those is going to point out that show trials are not justice. And then someone else is going to recognize that killing them isn't justice. And then when everyone's discussing the topic of justice, we might all realize there's a complete void there, and what we were taught is justice, since we were that burned kid's age, is anything but justice.

We all need to slow the hell down here and recognize just how monkey fucked this system is. Our legal system is incapable of regularly producing justice and has been since day one.

So before we go lynching folk, we ought to have an idea what things are going to look like when we're done. And "anything but that" is not a complete enough answer to justify grabbing ropes.

lol

 

[unknown]

The state directed these people to do exactly the things they did.

Is this why they're rarely prosecuted?

But they're short about 1000 people for that scenario.

Which IMHO is part of the problem. When people fall victim to the State, demonstrations need to take place.

It seems to work in lower income neighborhoods. Why cant it work for everyone else?

 

[thoughtomator]

It seems to work in lower income neighborhoods. Why cant it work for everyone else?

Because everyone else still believes they have something to lose.

Don't worry, it's only temporary.

 

[donnay]

Pray for them?!!!

Ok...

I pray that one day you will understand the crimes you are committing.
I pray that one day you will understand that you did this because your bosses told you it was OK.
I pray that one day you will understand how sick it is to use violence to stop non-violent activity.
I pray that one day you will understand you are engaged in a war on your fellow Americans.
Finally, I pray that you come to this understanding before you burn in hell for eternity.

Until then, Fuck You.

+rep

 

[TonySutton]

So by their logic if they no knock the wrong door it would also be the fault of the person they are looking for?

 

[fisharmor]

So by their logic if they no knock the wrong door it would also be the fault of the person they are looking for?

Yes. This is pretty well established in a lot of places.
For instance, if you and your best friend decide to rob a bank and your best friend ends up getting shot to death by a bank guard, they're going to try you for murder.

This makes perfect sense, if you realize that the only real purpose of the legal system is to procure convictions and ruin lives to the greatest extent possible.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

http://reason.com/blog/2014/05/30/sheriff-in-burned-baby-raid-wants-your-p
He told CNN that his officers "obviously would have done things different" (IF they knew there was a child in the home), like go in through a side door or not use a flash bang.

I love how apparently it still hasn't occurred to them that--shortly after the death squad bombed the baby and the home--they were able to kidnap the "terrorist" without any bombs and home invasions at all. So the idea that they don't need a death squad and home invasion to kidnap an innocent teenager is still completely beyond them although its interesting that after reflecting on their handywork they seem to think launching the bombs through different doors would make them feel better about themselves.

 

[jkr]

I second this prayer. All in favor??

aye!

 

[aGameOfThrones]

"And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy."

 

[Anti Federalist]

Terrell has insisted his officers and those of the local police department did nothing wrong and blamed the target of the warrant (not found at the house that was invaded) on the attack on the toddler. A chief assistant district attorney for the county, J. Edward Staples, says the target of the warrant could in fact be charged for the injuries the sheriff's deputies caused the toddler. In an obvious attempt to immunize himself and his office from liability, the sheriff has claimed the situation was unavoidable even as he attempted to offer reassurances that his SWAT team would be more diligent in the future. He told CNN that his officers "obviously would have done things different" (IF they knew there was a child in the home), like go in through a side door or not use a flash bang. Until using violence to crack down on non-violent "crimes" becomes politically untenable for "public servants," it won't matter how much ass-covering law enforcement does after the fact, these kinds of incidents will continue to happen.

Of course it was "avoidable".

Even if everything the cops said was true, why would you toss incendiary grenades into an enclosed space that allegedly had a meth lab?

Meth labs produce explosive fumes.

It was "avoidable" in the sense that there should never be, in a supposedly "free country", heavily armed assault squads, hut hutting about in full military regalia, kicking in people's doors and blowing up their kids in the middle of the night.

Aside from that, the Berserkers could care less, if they had blown the whole place sky high, killing everyone inside and a couple of their own, "oh well, collateral damage".

 

[Philhelm]

Un-fucking-acceptable.

 

[Philhelm]

Pray for them?!!!

Ok...

I pray that one day you will understand the crimes you are committing.
I pray that one day you will understand that you did this because your bosses told you it was OK.
I pray that one day you will understand how sick it is to use violence to stop non-violent activity.
I pray that one day you will understand you are engaged in a war on your fellow Americans.
Finally, I pray that you come to this understanding before you burn in hell for eternity.

Until then, Fuck You.

Pray harder.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

dad mentioned in an article I saw a little bit earlier that there was a SUV parked right by the door they broke down with a bunch of family related bumper stickers and 4 child safety seats...

didn't know - my ass!

-t

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

JUST-US system... get used to it, oh, and it will get worse with these Marxists-Fascists running government.