Supreme Court Justice Scalia dies on hunting trip

[JK/SEA]

Depends. How much do you trust McConnell and Cornyn?

mitch already said he will wait till after the election.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

mitch already said he will wait till after the election.

No, he said that the next President should appoint the next SCOTUS Justice. That leaves one hell of a lot of weasel room.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

OK let's back off the shit-throwing for a bit and get back to the topic.

The big picture is that the headlong slide into tyranny is exactly what the people of this country want, and they want it good and hard. Pretty much all the pillars of tyranny have overwhelming popular support. Imposing liberty on them would be exactly that - an imposition. They're not interested, so it would have to be tyrannically imposed, which of course would violate their liberty.

The last chance for liberty in America died in 2012 with the end of Ron's campaign. The next chance will happen only after this country is so sick and tired of suffering the evils of tyranny that it revolts.

Scalia was not and could not be the difference-maker. If his death is devastating, what is being devastated is the illusion that there was something left of the current system to save.

There isn't.

If you want liberty, withdraw your consent from the current system rather than legitimizing it with your voluntary participation. Create liberty personally and locally with the choices you make and the relationships you form and the education of those who are willing to learn. Prepare yourself for the collapse of the present system so that you have the initiative in the aftermath, and then and only then will there be the opportunity for liberty to once again be proclaimed throughout the land and unto all the inhabitants thereof.

Aside from a handful of bad (and some really bad) decisions, Scalia has been a consistent difference maker for the last 25 years. I reject your entire premise that Scalia has been irrelevant. His death is devastating because one of the last remaining roadblocks to full blown tyranny is now gone. I may recognize that the US is heading for despotism no matter what, but that doesn't mean that I'm just itching for it to hurry up and get here. What you do not understand is that a Despotic USA will not be a collapse and a rebuild, but a monstrously evil tyranny that the vast majority of us will not survive, but die violently and horribly.

 

[JK/SEA]

No, he said that the next President should appoint the next SCOTUS Justice. That leaves one hell of a lot of weasel room.

wrong....will not...but the prez 'should' appoint said REID...but...there will be no vote.


http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/13/...ia-replacement-until-we-have-a-new-president/

 

[misterx]

Why the hell are all the justices old farts so they die at same time and let an [insert type] of president to nominate several justices that is the same [insert type]? lol.Seems like a design flaw.

Shit.. Obama is gonna nominate someone based on race. Like first hispanic woman... this time probably first gay or first muslim justice lol. haha

He already checked off the gay box with Kagan. A Muslim wouldn't surprise me, but it would make it easy for the Republicans to block the nomination. There's no way the electorate would punish Republicans for that.

 

[Dianne]

mitch already said he will wait till after the election.

Well, do you know when Mitch McConnell is lying? When his lips are moving.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

wrong....will not...but the prez 'should' appoint said REID...but...there will be no vote.

No, I am not wrong. Here are a handful of quotes:

http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/13/...ia-replacement-until-we-have-a-new-president/

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/mitch-mcconnell-antonin-scalia-supreme-court-nomination-219248

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said the Senate should not confirm a replacement for Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia until after the 2016 election — an historic rebuke of President Obama’s authority and an extraordinary challenge to the practice of considering each nominee on his or her individual merits.

http://www.nytimes.com/live/supreme...xt-president-should-appoint-scalia-successor/

Mitch McConnell Says the Next President Should Appoint Scalia’s Successor

https://twitter.com/AP/status/698648939030016000

BREAKING: GOP Senate Leader McConnell says Supreme Court vacancy should not be filled until there is a new president

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ce-antonin-scalia-found-dead-west-texas-ranch

Update: as expected the Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell said that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia should not be replaced until after the presidential election.

As the Hill notes, since McConnell sets the Senate's schedule, his remarks signal the GOP's intent to not confirm any nominee offered by President Obama.

“The American people‎ should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice," he said in a statement. "Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new President.”

Dude is the Senate Leader for goodness sakes. There shouldn't be any "should" about it. HE HAS THE FINAL SAY. McConnell is not saying "will not," he is saying "should not." For a man in his position, this is problematic.

 

[Dianne]

Depends. How much do you trust McConnell and Cornyn?

LOL .. only when I'm on a suicidal pact. McConnell's Father In Law was busted with huge amounts of cocaine on his boat last year. All Obama has to do, is tell Mitch they will not prosecute his father in law, just lay down and play dead.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

No, he said that the next President should appoint the next SCOTUS Justice. That leaves one hell of a lot of weasel room.

If the Ryan/McConnell axis does weasel out and puts another Obama appointee on the court (to make it effectively a 6-3 left-authoritarian fortress on all major decisions), this might finally wake the right up, to finally vote the milquetoast set out. They bought into the passive "waiting for Godot" constitutionalist court majority strategem Republicans were supposed to deliver on, for decades. What has it gotten them, except still more decisions reinforcing the bad case law?

No more passive strategies, time for an active approach, without cave-ins. In a year where anti-establishment anger is already expressing itself, this last betrayal could act as a rocket booster for fostering change. Primary any GOP incumbent who caves, and move the battle to overturn the liberal precedents to Congress, where it belongs.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

wrong....will not...but the prez 'should' appoint said REID...but...there will be no vote.


http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/13/...ia-replacement-until-we-have-a-new-president/

You will note that my citations are direct quotes from McConnell. Your citation is one websites interpretation of McConnell's words. Reread the article you cited. It includes quotes from McConnell. Those quotes from McConnell only say "should not," and they certainly do not say "will not," as I have said.

 

[Dianne]

If the Ryan/McConnell axis does weasel out and puts another Obama appointee on the court (to make it effectively a 6-3 left-authoritarian fortress on all major decisions), this might finally wake the right up, to finally vote the milquetoast set out. They bought into the passive "waiting for Godot" constitutionalist court majority strategem Republicans were supposed to deliver on, for decades. What has it gotten them, except still more decisions reinforcing the bad case law?

No more passive strategies, time for an active approach, without cave-ins. In a year where anti-establishment anger is already expressing itself, this last betrayal could act as a rocket booster for fostering change. Primary any GOP incumbent who caves, and move the battle to overturn the liberal precedents to Congress, where it belongs.

Agree with you, gotta get these corrupt bastards and bitches out of the Congress !!! Yesterday was too damn late.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

If the Ryan/McConnell axis does weasel out and puts another Obama appointee on the court (to make it effectively a 6-3 left-authoritarian fortress on all major decisions), this might finally wake the right up, to finally vote the milquetoast set out. They bought into the passive "waiting for Godot" constitutionalist court majority strategem Republicans were supposed to deliver on, for decades. What has it gotten them, except still more decisions reinforcing the bad case law?

No more passive strategies, time for an active approach, without cave-ins. In a year where anti-establishment anger is already expressing itself, this last betrayal could act as a rocket booster for fostering change. Primary any GOP incumbent who caves, and move the battle to overturn the liberal precedents to Congress, where it belongs.

 

[misterx]

LOL .. only when I'm on a suicidal pact. McConnell's Father In Law was busted with huge amounts of cocaine on his boat last year. All Obama has to do, is tell Mitch they will not prosecute his father in law, just lay down and play dead.

We have some hope because he's said he's going to stop it, but I think he'll strike a deal to get Obama to nominate someone awful before nominating someone less awful. Then McConnell will claim victory, and act like he saved us all from someone worse. If I had to bet this is the scenario I'd put my money on.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

We have some hope because he's said he's going to stop it,

No, he said it should be stopped, not that it would be stopped. Given that McConnell has plenary power to actually stop it, this language should be troubling.

but I think he'll strike a deal to get Obama to nominate someone awful before nominating someone less awful. Then McConnell will claim victory, and act like he saved us all from someone worse. If I had to bet this is the scenario I'd put my money on.

McConnell's actual language here is foreshadowing this exact eventuality, yes.

 

[tod evans]

Scalia or not, justice will not be had in their courts.

 

[oyarde]

From the article:
"EL PASO -- An El Paso source close to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia tells ABC-7 that the 79-year-old died in his sleep last night after a day of quail hunting at Cibolo Creek Ranch outside of Marfa, Texas."

Crap , there is good quail hunting around Marfa , I did not know you could hunt in Feb .

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Scalia or not, justice will not be had in their courts.

Absolutely correct! The "courts" are bought and paid for by the "owners" of this country and there is not likely to ever be a "liberty" ruling from the courts unless it's an accident...

 

[enhanced_deficit]

How quick is SWC handlers:

February 13, 2016, 8:22 PM
Obama: I plan to nominate a successor to Justice Scalia
President Obama commemorated deceased Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia Saturday evening but also promised to nominate a successor in due time, in spite of Republicans who are say that responsibility belongs to the next president.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obama-to-address-antonin-scalias-death/

Was he hunting with Dick Cheney?

I was just going to warn peoples to not mention this.. and I was late.

 

[JK/SEA]

You will note that my citations are direct quotes from McConnell. Your citation is one websites interpretation of McConnell's words. Reread the article you cited. It includes quotes from McConnell. Those quotes from McConnell only say "should not," and they certainly do not say "will not," as I have said.

well, in fact i read Mitch said he WILL NOT, so i'm not sure what you're reading. Either way, my personal opinion is he will not...

 

[Weston White]

Certainly, Justice Scalia may have suffered bouts of constitutional blindness--which serves a wise allegory--the present Court falls further into usurpation without him.

RIP Hon. Antonin Scalia, J.

mitch already said he will wait till after the election.

...Or at least until he too gets his ride on AF1.