Support spreads for officer in Ferguson shooting

He didn't seem like he was "beaten very severely" in the videos I've seen of him in the street after he killed Brown. He looked as cool as a cucumber to me.

If Gillespie keeps this up, he's gonna lose his cosmo cred:

http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/20/source-ferguson-cop-who-killed-michael-b

There's no question that Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon's insistence on a "vigorous prosecution" is disturbing, as it implies a legal process directed by political expediency rather than rational deliberation. But beyond the above account's reliance on a single anonymous source, the actions of the Ferguson and St. Louis County cops are a bit tough to square.

If Darren Wilson was badly injured in the incident, why not disclose that sooner (and openly)?
 
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Being hypothetical... I wonder if a crowd of people like above protesting protesters down in Furgonson outside the designated protester zone and past curfew would end up getting tear gas thrown at them, pelted by rubber bullets, or fully automatic guns shoved in their face?
 
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source
Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”

This seems bizarre to me. Why have they waited so long to disclose this information if it was true?

If I was "nearly beaten unconscious", I wouldn't be walking back and forth on the road next to Brown's dead body following being attacked. If I suffered "severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture", I'd probably be holding the injured side of my face and asking for ice. From the video, Wilson does neither-- he walks back and forth, converses with another officer, and doesn't appear to be in any type of pain:



It's possible there was a tussle between Wilson and Brown. However, imho, the "severity" of Wilson's "injuries" are either being vastly exaggerated in these new accounts by the press, or entirely prefabricated.
 
If I was "nearly beaten unconscious", I wouldn't be walking back and forth on the road next to Brown's dead body following being attacked. If I suffered "severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture", I'd probably be holding the injured side of my face and asking for ice. From the video, Wilson does neither-- he walks back and forth, converses with another officer, and doesn't appear to be in any type of pain:



It's possible there was a tussle between Wilson and Brown. However, imho, the "severity" of Wilson's "injuries" are either being vastly exaggerated in these new accounts by the press, or entirely prefabricated.


It's possible he isn't feeling pain due to adrenaline.
 
And the cop's defense attorney would say that it was adrenaline, that it was the heat of battle due to being hit by and struggling with Brown, that he had tunnel vision, and was following procedure when it comes to a charging and violent person.

That's how it will work out. And the burden of proof will be on the prosecutor.

And that is the story going around now with the revelation of the orbital sock injury. Someone on TV even said that he was temporarily unconscious. Of course that is nonsense, as someone who comes out of unconsciousness rarely continues any fight. Just getting punched does send the adrenaline through the roof though.

It's possible he isn't feeling pain due to adrenaline.

Quite possible, even very likely.
 

From that link, looks like they raised more than initial target and then upped the target.

$142,155 of 150k


Raised by 3,508 people in 3 days


This cop will be more popular than Zimmerman. He'll probably raise 1 million.

Won't be too surprising looking at recent trend and leaks operation.

Has P. Diddy ever called out his business partner Mark Wahlberg?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg

For self-interest, career promotion, money etc, many deals are routinely made. Diddy, Will Smith, Corey Booker, SWC droneking etc amay be few examples in the African-American community. Similar phenomenon in other communites, compromisers, puppets, tools al around esp in politics.
 
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Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

This seems bizarre to me. Why have they waited so long to disclose this information if it was true?

KD thinks it's bull. So do I.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229323

EXCLUSIVE: Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

Even assuming all of this is true it does not matter when it comes to the officer shooting Brown.
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Here's the problem -- whether it's a good shoot or manslaughter (at best) turns entirely on whether Brown was actively assaulting the officer when he was shot because the legal justification to shoot him for the previous assault ended when that assault terminated.

My issue with the claim that it was a good shoot predicated on the above is the following:
  • How could Brown have heard a command to stop when his ears were, seconds before, a few inches from a weapon that discharged in a confined space with no hearing protection? I don't recommend you try reproducing this on your own, by the way. If the "command" was in fact shots fired at his back (which Brown could hear, deafened or not, and of course if he was hit in the hand, which is possible from a ballistics perspective, he'd feel that).....
  • The evidence does not support that Brown went for the officer's gun and it discharged during said altercation. Specifically, there was no evidence of powder residue anywhere on Brown, including his hands. I assume for the moment there is physical evidence of a discharge in the vehicle (somewhere in the vehicle there is a hole from the inside out, etc.) -- but to assert that Brown caused the discharge or was within inches of the weapon when it happened should have deposited evidence of same on his body, and that evidence is missing.
  • Show me the ballistics and geometric solution that allows an average-height man to shoot a 6'4" guy, who is roughly 6" taller than the officer, in the head and face with the known angles of entry and (for the shot to the eye) exit while that man is on his feet, charging or not. He did not fall to his knees while charging as the autopsy showed no abrasions on his knees or legs -- inescapable injuries if you are charging someone, are shot, and fall forward on pavement. The only abrasion injury was a very light and flat-forward impact injury to Brown's face consistent with a face-first fall from a stationary position. He thus could not have suffered the fatal shots in a scenario where he is hit superficially in the arm or hand, falls to his knees while running and thus presents the necessary angle for the last two rounds to go into his head that are being fired at an actively-charging suspect.
You have to get past these facts that get in the way of the claims in the Fox News story, and you have to do it with physical facts, not supposition, because the physical evidence released to date points the other way.

If you can do that then the shoot was good and I'll change my mind; anyone, including this officer, is within his rights to shoot a man that is at that instant in time presents a credible threat of assault to do great bodily harm or worse, and Brown, according to this story, had demonstrated his ability to do exactly that.

But if you can't get past the above problems with objective evidence the officer needs to charged with and convicted of either Manslaughter or Murder 2.
 
Facts are the first casualty again?

Way to go non-controlled free MSM.

This making its way around the net:

"Police officer did not have a broken eye socket."

Just saw a CNN report that sources close to the investigation confirm, no broken or fractured eye socket or orbital blowout occurred.

This would conflict earlier reports such as this one that talked about the specific injury.



The clarification that no serious injury to his eye comes on the heels of another video coming out showing Darren Wilson after the event talking with another officer, while not appearing to be in great pain, of course this is all speculation. What is worth noting is that the media's "sources close to the investigation" are beginning to conflict with each other in terms of the actual report given by the officer the day or days after the event occurred and specific facts of what happened to the officer himself. It also seems now that earlier reports from the St. Louis Dispatch about a dozen or so witnesses corroborating the officer's story is false and those statements have been walked back as mentioned in the above video.



Imagine my shock.
 
My wife knows Darren Wilson's wife.. I know for a fact he's a dirtbag.

Care to elaborate?

Even if he was in the right using deadly force in this one instance, I'm sure he's violated plenty of citizen's rights, "put lumps" on people for the hell of it, popped a few dogs for looking at him funny, etc. All that goes with being a cop -- there are no "good" ones.
 
It seems like this really isn't good for the anti police state movement, as this is appearing to be a rare example of the police killing in self defense. There are countless examples all around the country of instances where the police didn't kill in self defense, including killing pets, and those instances are never mentioned in the media. It just happens that the one event that actually ends up being a big deal and gets covered by the media ends up being an instance where the police officer most likely didn't do anything wrong.
 
It seems like this really isn't good for the anti police state movement, as this is appearing to be a rare example of the police killing in self defense. There are countless examples all around the country of instances where the police didn't kill in self defense, including killing pets, and those instances are never mentioned in the media. It just happens that the one event that actually ends up being a big deal and gets covered by the media ends up being an instance where the police officer most likely didn't do anything wrong.

It seems bit different case than Miriam Carey shooting with infamous congressional standing ovation.

But all key facts are not known still.
 
Wow... so much armchair quarterbacking going on here....

How about we let the process work and wait for all the facts to come out before we judge?

:toady:
 
Wow... so much armchair quarterbacking going on here....

How about we let the process work and wait for all the facts to come out before we judge?

:toady:

In terms of the behavior of the police department, those facts are in and they are extremely ugly.

Is anyone going to be charged in the tear gas attack on the Al-Jazeera film crew? Anyone going to be charged for the false arrest of the WaPo reporters? Is Officer GoFyourself going to be charged with brandishing and making threats?

I think we all know the answers to those questions. The problem remains the same - the law does not apply to the police, they refuse to enforce the law against their own members while going balls-to-the-wall, comply-or-die, with respect to everyone else - black, white or other.
 
2:45 mark of CNN video:
"They easily could of easily given(the police) these videos as well, because they confiscated my phone(video recording)."

There you go... this is all about 'protecting the state' and their racketeering profit centers. Also the lies perpetrated about officer "6 Shot" injuries were all to drum up sympathy and cash. Then next hurdle, of many, will be the corrupt organized crime syndicate aka District Attorney, then the rigged grand jury, then the rigged jurors, then the rigged judge, and then the rigged verdict.

It's like every other city and town in America today, "JUST-US".
 
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This is top news headline on google now. It appears fund raising has been suddenly stopped while earlier target had been moved up every $50K when it exceeded previous target. It was was at $250K short while ago and now changed to $235 and closed.

$225000 in Crowdfunding Raised to Support Darren Wilson


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A crowdfunding site created this week to support Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson and his family continues to rake in donations, but not without backlash against comments made by some of the campaign's donors.
 
Wow... so much armchair quarterbacking going on here....

How about we let the process work and wait for all the facts to come out before we judge?

:toady:

That approach did not turn out so good after Miriam Carey was executed, so can't really blame people for trying to speculate in all directions.


In other news, they have raised an astonishing $400,000K for Darren Wilson so far and still going.

https://www.gofundme.com/OfficerWilsonFundraiser
 
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