***SUPER BROCHURE PROJECT Idaho***

[ZakCarter]

Want to knock a competitor out of business? Come up with something better at a cheaper price.

I suggest Veterans For Ron Paul, Gun Owners For Ron Paul, and Christians For Ron Paul radio ads to be run on conservative talk radio in the states yet to vote - talk radio listeners tend to vote in much higher percentages than your average TV viewers...a very big added bonus would be when you start paying for advertising, it becomes much easier to get your favorite guest speakers on the shows the ads are running on, so not only do you get the ad, but you get to alter the content that people are tuning in for - think Colonel Macgregor, a veteran for Ron Paul, might sway a few who are on the fence or concerned about Ron Paul's foreign policy?

I also think Blue Republican ads run in open voting states on progressive/independent shows would be effective - and money much better spent than on "super" brochures.

The Daily Paul just might take down the brochure at the top of the page and replace it with a microphone...

Your thoughts?

 

[ironj221]

My biggest problem with this is that DP took down the campaign donation story to put up the super brochures.

-rep DP

 

[bluesc]

My biggest problem with this is that DP took down the campaign donation story to put up the super brochures.

-rep DP

One brings profits, the other doesn't.

 

[VictorB]

If the campaign feels strongly against these brochures, then they need to put out an official statement against them. That is the only way that they will be stopped.

Someone find out the truth from Doug Wead.

 

[bluesc]

If the campaign feels strongly against these brochures, then they need to put out an official statement against them. That is the only way that they will be stopped.

Someone find out the truth from Doug Wead.

It's probably illegal to do that. We have heard that the campaign is strongly against the brochures though. Not that the Daily Paul cares when there is money to be made.

 

[LibertyEagle]

What?! If you knew these brochures hurt Dr. Paul, then why would you be against others warning about them? When you knew that they were marketed as a great product and working, when they were the opposite?

My, how you twist things.

When I posted about the brochures early on, I gave my OPINION that they were not the best tool to use for mass-mailing and gave the reasons why I believed that to be true.

My opinion is not the same thing as fact. What you don't seem to understand is that all you have is an opinion too. Which is probably why you have resulted to insults and personal attacks.

Then, there was the whole thing with the videos being brought up by the search terms in the brochure. I kept raising the issue here until enough people seemed to realize the problem, then I considered my work done. Because it is not my decision whether someone wants to support this effort with their own money, but I wanted them to understand what they were responsible for sending out. A couple of other forum members, who now understood the problem, took it upon themselves to make sure other more appropriate videos were kept bumped up to the top. This solved the immediate problem.

Then, I contacted ronpaulproducts and talked to the guys. They had not realized what the search terms in their brochure were now pulling up. We talked about a solution which was to move all the videos they wanted to point to, to a channel that they controlled. This would end any possibility that people would be viewing a different video than they had intended. They were very open to recommendations and very gracious.

That to me is even worse than someone who does not know the true nature of this product.

Ha ha. You're pretty funny, dude.

Do you just not care about Dr. Paul's chances?

That's right. You've found me out. I don't care about Dr. Paul at all.

The guy will not listen to feedback, this was weeks ago, and it's obvious by now that he will NOT not stop marketing these brochures as being "helpful" to Dr. Paul. Why? There's money to be made I guess. And some people are blind, some people can see it and will do nothing, and some people will do something and help people see the truth.

People do not respond well to being attacked.

I have taken the time to talk to him and his colleague on the phone. So, I know for a fact that they will listen and incorporate feedback. No, they may not stop selling the brochures. But, unless you gather all of your supposed proof and approach them, we will never know. But, you seem to prefer just libeling them on an internet forum. To each his own, I suppose.

Bloviate away, dude.

 

[bobburn]

Goddamn them for diverting funds from things that actually have an impact.

 

[bluesc]

Goddamn them for diverting funds from things that actually have an impact to their bank accounts.

FTFY

 

[bobburn]

These people only care about profiting from Paul's campaign through the brochures. They have hurt us far more than they've helped.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Want to knock a competitor out of business? Come up with something better at a cheaper price.

I suggest Veterans For Ron Paul, Gun Owners For Ron Paul, and Christians For Ron Paul radio ads to be run on conservative talk radio in the states yet to vote - talk radio listeners tend to vote in much higher percentages than your average TV viewers...a very big added bonus would be when you start paying for advertising, it becomes much easier to get your favorite guest speakers on the shows the ads are running on, so not only do you get the ad, but you get to alter the content that people are tuning in for - think Colonel Macgregor, a veteran for Ron Paul, might sway a few who are on the fence or concerned about Ron Paul's foreign policy?

I also think Blue Republican ads run in open voting states on progressive/independent shows would be effective - and money much better spent than on "super" brochures.

The Daily Paul just might take down the brochure at the top of the page and replace it with a microphone...

Your thoughts?

Well, it's my opinion that direct mail is best left to the campaign. Because through Phone-from-Home they can identify the key issues that each voter has and target them with those specific campaign materials.

 

[LibertyEagle]

It's probably illegal to do that. We have heard that the campaign is strongly against the brochures though. Not that the Daily Paul cares when there is money to be made.

I'm not sure we know that. It may be the case, but I'm not totally sure. It may have been the early brochures that had the coffins on them. Those may be what brought about the negative comment.

Regardless, basic marketing is enough to tell us that the shotgun approach to campaign materials is not the best way to win over most voters. Especially, on a blind mail-out.

 

[Tobias2dope]

This is just sad.

 

[happyphilter]

Must of spent all that money they made from last time.

 

[bluesc]

I'm not sure we know that. It may be the case, but I'm not totally sure. It may have been the early brochures that had the coffins on them. Those may be what brought about the negative comment.

Regardless, basic marketing is enough to tell us that the shotgun approach to campaign materials is not the best way to win over most voters. Especially, on a blind mail-out.

I'm sure they oppose the concept too. Any form of marketing training will teach them that the superbrochures are failing in every department.

Ron should slap some sense into Nystrom like he used to.

 

[Lucille]

My god. A state we can win, a state that the campaign just opened a new office in due to increased confidence, and they are back again.

Why didn't these people donate this spare money to the moneybomb that is going on right now?

Either the SB shills are working for another candidate's campaign, or they're just dumbasses.

 

[parocks]

Why do people hate the super brochures?

they suck.

 

[Lucille]

How can we stop these dumbasses from sending these out? They're losing RP votes, for crying out loud. Can't the campaign sue them for misrepresentation, or something? Anything! My God, these f'n things are a disaster yet they keep being sent out and no one is doing anything to stop them.

 

[opinionatedfool]

Please spend the money on RevPAC or something. There are so many people who think the super brochures are crap it might be good to listen to them.

 

[Lightweis]

I'm going to give this thread one star.. hold on one second!

 

[sailingaway]

there were no super brochures in Maine. There were no superbrochures that I am aware of in Minnesota.

I think we should leave direct mail to the campaign.

That is not as a mod, that is my personal opinion.

I am very impressed with the business organization and the delivery; and if it just said something unobjectionable like he would balance the budget in three years without cutting social security, medicare or veteran's benefits, and details his cuts to do so, while Romney only cuts INCREASES in spending and still cuts medicare.... I'd be fine with it. But I just saw another interview yesterday where someone rejected him because 'getting rid of the IRS is crazy' and it does not explain that is a philosophical goal to work towards, not something he would do walking in the door. Walking in the door he has a very specific plan and that is what needs to be out there, imho.