Study: Contemporary Mosques Are A Deterrent To The Spread Of Terrorism

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In recent weeks, conservatives who have been arguing against the construction of an Islamic community center near Ground Zero have been claiming that such a building would be “offensive” to the memory of the 9/11 victims. They have also tried to imply that this mosque would embolden terrorists, with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich saying:

The idea of a 13-story building set up by a group many of whom, frankly, are very hostile to our civilization — and I’m talking now about the people who organized this, many of whom are apologists for sharia, which is a form of law that I think we cannot allow in this country, period.

However, today the New York Times highlights an academic study that concludes the opposite of what Gingrich and his uninformed ilk are claiming, finding that many mosques deter terrorism:

A two-year study by a group of academics on American Muslims and terrorism concluded that contemporary mosques are actually a deterrent to the spread of militant Islam and terrorism. The study was conducted by professors with Duke’s Sanford School of Public Policy and the University of North Carolina. It disclosed that many mosque leaders had put significant effort into countering extremism by building youth programs, sponsoring antiviolence forums and scrutinizing teachers and texts.

“Our research suggests that initiatives that treat Muslim-Americans as part of the solution to this problem are far more likely to be successful,” said David Schanzer, one of the authors of the study. Co-author David Kurzman added, “Muslim-American communities have been active in preventing radicalization. This is one reason that Muslim-American terrorism has resulted in fewer than three dozen of the 136,000 murders committed in the United States since 9/11.”

The Center for American Progress recently held an event on identifying, preventing, and responding to domestic terrorism, with Schanzer and other experts. Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) was the keynote speaker, and he pointed to the “critical role Muslims in America have played and must continue to play in fighting domestic violent extremism.” For example, as ThinkProgress highlighted, Aliou Niasse, a Senagalese Muslim immigrant who works as a vendor in Times Square, was the first to bring the smoking car that was part of the failed Times Square bombing plot to the police’s attention.

Unfortunately, the battle at Ground Zero is playing out across the country. In Murfreesboro, Tennessee, protesters are similarly disparaging a proposed mosque. In June, Lou Ann Zelenik — a Republican candidate for Congress in that area — claimed the mosque was “designed to fracture the moral and political foundation of Middle Tennessee.” Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey (R), who is running for governor, wondered whether Islam is a “cult” and said Muslims “crossed a line when they start trying to bring Sharia Law into the state of Tennessee.”

Additionally, supporters of these Islamic centers are not the ones who

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/08/mosques-deterrent/
 
Let's all take a moment and thank all the rapid, anti-intellectual, fanatical right wing christian nutjobs for making America look stupid. Again.

Those religious people yelling at the little kids... really acting in the name of jesus aren't you?
 
Let's all take a moment and thank all the rapid, anti-intellectual, fanatical right wing christian nutjobs for making America look stupid. Again.

Those religious people yelling at the little kids... really acting in the name of jesus aren't you?

Agreed, as long as we also agree that not all Christians are such nutjobs.
 
Let's all take a moment and thank all the rapid, anti-intellectual, fanatical right wing christian nutjobs for making America look stupid. Again.

Those religious people yelling at the little kids... really acting in the name of jesus aren't you?

Only after you come to terms with the fact that Ron Paul is a conservative Christian and basis his non interventionist views on his Christian philosophy.
 
“Our research suggests that initiatives that treat Muslim-Americans as part of the solution to this problem are far more likely to be successful,” said David Schanzer, one of the authors of the study. Co-author David Kurzman added, “Muslim-American communities have been active in preventing radicalization. This is one reason that Muslim-American terrorism has resulted in fewer than three dozen of the 136,000 murders committed in the United States since 9/11.”

Interesting point. Especially against the backdrop of psycho who recently went on a stabbing spree was (apparently) not Muslim.

Unfortunately, the battle at Ground Zero is playing out across the country. In Murfreesboro, Tennessee, protesters are similarly disparaging a proposed mosque. In June, Lou Ann Zelenik — a Republican candidate for Congress in that area — claimed the mosque was “designed to fracture the moral and political foundation of Middle Tennessee.” Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey (R), who is running for governor, wondered whether Islam is a “cult” and said Muslims “crossed a line when they start trying to bring Sharia Law into the state of Tennessee.”

Note that Lou Ann Zelenik and Ron Ramsey both lost their election bids. Note also that Lou Ann was actively seeking our support. Note that she ended up being close enough that we could have pushed her over the top if she had been worthy of our support.
 
I wonder if there are many atheists out there who vehemently hate Islam as opposed to their being OK with Christianity :confused:
 
Let's all take a moment and thank all the rapid, anti-intellectual, fanatical right wing christian nutjobs for making America look stupid. Again.

Those religious people yelling at the little kids... really acting in the name of jesus aren't you?

Why does defense of Islam on RPF always end with an attack on Christianity?
 
This study might come to a common sense conclusion, but I'm glad for it having been done. It helps present an alternative, constructive strategy for fighting the [extremely overblown] threat of terrorism.
 
I don't get it either. :confused:

Yeah I don't get it. Someone should look into it. Is it that we have many atheists/agnostics/anti-theists in the libertarian movement? Or is it that some people see Christianity as a threat to libertarianism? I don't get it.

This study might come to a common sense conclusion, but I'm glad for it having been done. It helps present an alternative, constructive strategy for fighting the [extremely overblown] threat of terrorism.

Immediately after 9/11, moderate Muslims practically screamed out this alternative, constructive strategy at the top of their lungs. And then Bush came out with his "with us or against us" crap, and moderate Muslims either shut up out of fear of being shipped out to Gitmo, or sold out to the tyrannical governments and became their mouthpieces, or went underground and joined the extremists.

God, you gotta love Bush.
 
I'm not sure these kinds of studies are really going to make much difference in the minds of Americans who are already opposed to the building of the mosque. They've already made up their minds that many Muslims are prone to violence, and the study would help further that idea in their minds, in the sense that the mosque builder is trying to "hold back the tide" of radical Islam. The reality is that the guy is building an Islamic center for many different purposes that have nothing to do with stamping out radical Islam.

Why feed into the stereotype by trying to argue with these bigots that building the mosque would help prevent the spread of terrorism? To me the better argument is to show how Muslims are ordinary Americans like everyone else and deserve the same property rights, and the same freedom of religion. It's much harder to win an argument when you give your opponent's stance some credence by using it as a starting point.
 
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