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Student turns in parents to DARE officer at school
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I had a girl stop by the house to get money for DARE. I told her I wouldn't donate to it since DARE tells kids to turn in their parents. She told me that they never told her to do that. I still didn't donate. Told her to research her own organization.
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I don't think they usually use those words exactly, but they encourage kids that it is safe for them to let the officer know if there are any 'problems' at home.
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Looks like the kids might benefit from valuable first hand experience of benevolent government foster care.
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I remember a time when it was not questioned.
I was buying my own at 13. No questions asked.
I also carried a rifle openly at that age. (British .303) No questions asked.
My High School had a smoking area for students. and a rifle range.
Times have changed.,, not for the better.
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The Use of Children as Informants
"Children are asked to submit to D.A.R.E. police officers sensitive written questionnaires that can easily refer to the kids' homes" and that "a D.A.R.E. lesson called 'The Three R's: Recognize, Resist, Report' … encourages children to tell friends, teachers or police if they find drugs at home."[30]
In addition, "D.A.R.E. officers are encouraged to put a 'D.A.R.E. Box' in every classroom, into which students may drop 'drug information' or questions under the pretense of anonymity. Officers are instructed that if a student 'makes a disclosure related to drug use,' the officer should report the information to further authorities, both school and police. This apparently applies whether the 'drug use' was legal or illegal, harmless or harmful. In a number of communities around the country, students have been enlisted by the D.A.R.E. officer as informants against their parents."[31]
"In the official D.A.R.E. Implementation Guide, police officers are advised to be alert for signs of children who have relatives who use drugs. D.A.R.E. officers are first and foremost police officers and thus are duty-bound to follow up leads that might come to their attention through inadvertent or indiscreet comments by young children."[32]
As a result, "children sometimes confide the names of people they suspect are illegally using drugs. A mother and father in Caroline County, Maryland, were jailed for 30 days after their daughter informed a police D.A.R.E. instructor that her parents had marijuana plants in their home, according to a story in The Washington Post in January 1993. The Wall Street Journal reported in 1992 that ‘In two recent cases in Boston, children who had tipped police stepped out of their homes carrying D.A.R.E. diplomas as police arrived to arrest their parents.’ In 1991, 10-year-old Joaquin Herrera of Englewood, Colorado, phoned 911, announced, ‘I'm a D.A.R.E. kid’ and summoned police to his house to discover a couple of ounces of marijuana hidden in a bookshelf, according to the Rocky Mountain News. The boy sat outside his parents' home in a police patrol car while the police searched the home and arrested the parents. The policeman assigned to the boy's school commended the boy's action. Nine-year-old Darrin Davis of Douglasville, Ga., called 911 after he found a small amount of speed hidden in his parent's bedroom because, as he told the Dallas Morning News, "At school, they told us that if we ever see drugs, call 911 because people who use drugs need help . . . . I thought the police would come get the drugs and tell them that drugs are wrong. They never said they would arrest them. . . . But in court, I heard them tell the judge that I wanted my mom and dad arrested. That is a lie. I did not tell them that." The arrest wrecked his parents' lives, said the Dallas newspaper; both parents lost their jobs, a bank threatened to foreclose on their homes and his father was kept in jail for three months "[33]
"Children are asked to submit to D.A.R.E. police officers sensitive written questionnaires that can easily refer to the kids' homes" and that "a D.A.R.E. lesson called 'The Three R's: Recognize, Resist, Report' … encourages children to tell friends, teachers or police if they find drugs at home."[30]
In addition, "D.A.R.E. officers are encouraged to put a 'D.A.R.E. Box' in every classroom, into which students may drop 'drug information' or questions under the pretense of anonymity. Officers are instructed that if a student 'makes a disclosure related to drug use,' the officer should report the information to further authorities, both school and police. This apparently applies whether the 'drug use' was legal or illegal, harmless or harmful. In a number of communities around the country, students have been enlisted by the D.A.R.E. officer as informants against their parents."[31]
"In the official D.A.R.E. Implementation Guide, police officers are advised to be alert for signs of children who have relatives who use drugs. D.A.R.E. officers are first and foremost police officers and thus are duty-bound to follow up leads that might come to their attention through inadvertent or indiscreet comments by young children."[32]
As a result, "children sometimes confide the names of people they suspect are illegally using drugs. A mother and father in Caroline County, Maryland, were jailed for 30 days after their daughter informed a police D.A.R.E. instructor that her parents had marijuana plants in their home, according to a story in The Washington Post in January 1993. The Wall Street Journal reported in 1992 that ‘In two recent cases in Boston, children who had tipped police stepped out of their homes carrying D.A.R.E. diplomas as police arrived to arrest their parents.’ In 1991, 10-year-old Joaquin Herrera of Englewood, Colorado, phoned 911, announced, ‘I'm a D.A.R.E. kid’ and summoned police to his house to discover a couple of ounces of marijuana hidden in a bookshelf, according to the Rocky Mountain News. The boy sat outside his parents' home in a police patrol car while the police searched the home and arrested the parents. The policeman assigned to the boy's school commended the boy's action. Nine-year-old Darrin Davis of Douglasville, Ga., called 911 after he found a small amount of speed hidden in his parent's bedroom because, as he told the Dallas Morning News, "At school, they told us that if we ever see drugs, call 911 because people who use drugs need help . . . . I thought the police would come get the drugs and tell them that drugs are wrong. They never said they would arrest them. . . . But in court, I heard them tell the judge that I wanted my mom and dad arrested. That is a lie. I did not tell them that." The arrest wrecked his parents' lives, said the Dallas newspaper; both parents lost their jobs, a bank threatened to foreclose on their homes and his father was kept in jail for three months "[33]
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Exactly. The kid will probably be beaten, sexually abused and exposed to heroin in foster care.
The real lesson ehre is Legalize Pot as there simply isn;t a valid reason to keep it illegal.
Mom and Dad could've had a mini-bar full of booze and the authorities wouldn't think twice about it.
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Oh my, this happened in my former hometown! Can't say I'm surprised of course. I vividly remember my government-approved DARE indoctrination, which was perhaps even more strident back then because of the general anti-drug, law-and-order ethos of the late '80s and early '90s.
I even remember that incredibly traumatic "Cartoon All-Stars" special where they enlisted the entire Saturday Morning roster (Muppets, Bugs Bunny, Chipmunks, etc.) to propagandize against pot, even suggesting that somehow, smoking it makes your skin rot and turn green. But I digress...
I could conceivably see a 6 or 7-year-old being convinced by a bureaucrat that NARCing on his or her parents is in their best interest; but an 11-year-old?! I'm guessing they lack a great deal of communication as a family and weren't especially close.
Either that, or the betrayal was a deliberate attempt by the child to obtain revenge for some perceived wrong done to him in the past. Either way, something is rotten in Denmark.
I even remember that incredibly traumatic "Cartoon All-Stars" special where they enlisted the entire Saturday Morning roster (Muppets, Bugs Bunny, Chipmunks, etc.) to propagandize against pot, even suggesting that somehow, smoking it makes your skin rot and turn green. But I digress...
I could conceivably see a 6 or 7-year-old being convinced by a bureaucrat that NARCing on his or her parents is in their best interest; but an 11-year-old?! I'm guessing they lack a great deal of communication as a family and weren't especially close.
Either that, or the betrayal was a deliberate attempt by the child to obtain revenge for some perceived wrong done to him in the past. Either way, something is rotten in Denmark.
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That's true as well, but I wouldn't let my kid anywhere near a government school.
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You act as if 1) everyone tries marijuana 2) people are against prohibition only if they have tried marijuana.
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I'm trying to find links to a number of stories that I've seen where gift cards and cash were offered as incentives to kids to turn in the "druggies".
Perhaps the kid was naive but well meaning, doesn't say whether it was boy or girl, could have just been a creep, punk kid.
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In the last days...
Matthew 10:21
Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
Matthew 12:53
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 54 And He was also saying to the crowds, “When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, ‘A shower is coming,’ and so it turns out. 55 “And when you see a south wind blowing, you say, ‘It will be a hot day,’ and it turns out that way. 56 “You hypocrites! You know how to analyze the appearance of the earth and the sky, but why do you not analyze this present time?
TMike
Matthew 10:21
Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
Matthew 12:53
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 54 And He was also saying to the crowds, “When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, ‘A shower is coming,’ and so it turns out. 55 “And when you see a south wind blowing, you say, ‘It will be a hot day,’ and it turns out that way. 56 “You hypocrites! You know how to analyze the appearance of the earth and the sky, but why do you not analyze this present time?
TMikePublic schools, yet another concern that needs to be addressed, but one that will never be in the political hackery of the current US mentality.
Our children did quite well with public school, BTW, but we were also heavily involved with their education at home as well.
These kids narcing on their parents is as much a matter of the parents as it is the authorities, IMHO. If you're going to toke, explain it to your kids and warn them about said authorities and what they might say.
Much of what is wrong with the public school system today is simply lazy parenting.
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Yup.
And we see where the USSR is today.
Coming soon here, and I can only hope this whole shitting mess blows apart as relatively painlessly as the fall of the USSR did.
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Pretty much everyone I know has at least tried it..
It helps, but it isn't full proof.. and certainly not required.. I would say that one issue is that some people try it after drinking, since drinking lowers inhibitions. The best way to convince people that cannabis is safe is to have them try it sober. Doing it after heavy drinking can cause dizziness and cause you to throw up, not a pleasant experience.
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