Student suspended after refusing to step on Jesus

[Cowlesy]

LOL in the words of Shelby Stanga, the Swamp Logger, 'Heere we go!!!!"

 

[Smart3]

Your research is lacking. Mormonism and Jehovah Witnesses have a different view of Jesus than the rest of Christianity (Jesus as a created being). Seventh-Day Adventists do not. If you are wanting to talk "different denominations" then you have to throw in Baptists, Pentecostals, Episcopalians etc.

Edit: My apologies for the further thread derail. Just wanted to clear that up.

Mormonism and JWs, as well as SDAs are all offshoots or Christian neo-religions. Much like the Qadayanis of India, they have re-interpreted the religion, added new prophets (Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White) and dismissed traditional doctrines like the Trinity. All three groups are exclusionary - it is not possible to be a believer in Jesus without accepting Joseph Smith or Ellen G. White as modern-day prophets. In that respect, they are the inspiration for Scientology.

As always, I do not intend to offend anyone who belongs to these groups.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Interesting to note that despite all of the attacks recently on Mormons not being Christians, it was a Mormon who stood up for Jesus. Who's willing to bet there were some nominal Christians in the class who went along with the teacher? Romans 13. Obey the authority put above you.

Lol. Romans 13 certainly does not apply when it means disobeying God... And while Mormons are not actually Christians in the traditional senses (Or at least, I don't believe they are) I'm still impressed with this guy.

Mormonism and JWs, as well as SDAs are all offshoots or Christian neo-religions. Much like the Qadayanis of India, they have re-interpreted the religion, added new prophets (Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White) and dismissed traditional doctrines like the Trinity. All three groups are exclusionary - it is not possible to be a believer in Jesus without accepting Joseph Smith or Ellen G. White as modern-day prophets. In that respect, they are the inspiration for Scientology.

As always, I do not intend to offend anyone who belongs to these groups.

Do the SDA's believe other Christians are not believers in Christ? I do not recall this. And I've heard some actual debate amongst Evangelical circles regarding what exactly the SDA is. "Kingdom of the Cults" author Walter Martin argues that the SDA's are not a cult all the while arguing that JWs, Mormons, Scientologists, exc. are...

 

[Cowlesy]

Isn't the point of this news story that this kind of activity constitutes a class that you pay tuition for in an establishment of higher education?

 

[jmdrake]

Mormonism and JWs, as well as SDAs are all offshoots or Christian neo-religions. Much like the Qadayanis of India, they have re-interpreted the religion, added new prophets (Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White) and dismissed traditional doctrines like the Trinity. All three groups are exclusionary - it is not possible to be a believer in Jesus without accepting Joseph Smith or Ellen G. White as modern-day prophets. In that respect, they are the inspiration for Scientology.

As always, I do not intend to offend anyone who belongs to these groups.

You're not offending, just showing your ignorance. SDA's have the same believe on the trinity as any other mainstream Christian religion. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are co-equal and have always existed. The prophet Joel and well as the apostle Paul taught that prophecy would be an ongoing gift to God's church. And the SDA church has never taught that you have to accept Ellen White as a prophet to be a Christian. In fact she never even referred to herself as a prophet. Inspiration for Scientology? Don't make me laugh!

 

[jmdrake]

Lol. Romans 13 certainly does not apply when it means disobeying God... And while Mormons are not actually Christians in the traditional senses (Or at least, I don't believe they are) I'm still impressed with this guy.

I agree. I just think that some Christians have been beaten down so much by misapplication of Romans 13 that they no longer really stand for God when it actually counts. Standing for God includes questioning your government to make sure it's actually in line with God's principles. The "Don't you dare question America" attitude of some precludes any real stand on principle.

Do the SDA's believe other Christians are not believers in Christ? I do not recall this. And I've heard some actual debate amongst Evangelical circles regarding what exactly the SDA is. "Kingdom of the Cults" author Walter Martin argues that the SDA's are not a cult all the while arguing that JWs, Mormons, Scientologists, exc. are...

SDA's do believe other Christians are believers in Christ. In fact SDA's got the Sabbath from Seventh-Day Baptists. The "Adventist" part refers to particular believes about the end time and the 2nd coming of Jesus. Ironically while that was once unique to various "Adventist" groups, aspects of that belief (that Jesus is literally coming again in the clouds) have been adopted by most evangelical Christians. But SDAs have never bought into the "secret pre-tribulation rapture" idea that's recently become resurgent because of the "left behind" series.

 

[acptulsa]

Except, Abraham never existed...

Wait a minute. You're saying that these three religions which all key on this figure Abraham have no relationship with each other because you don't believe this key figure was a historical figure? So, are we arguing that the fact that there's a Abraham that plays prominently in each religion, and the fact that he has sons named Isaac and Ishmael in each religion, is merely a coincidence?

Because that, buddy, is one hell of a coincidence for three unrelated religions.

And if Abraham, father of Isaac and Ishmael, is Abraham, father of Isaac and Ishmael, is Abraham, father of Isaac and Ishmael, then God is Yahweh is Allah, and the details of his construction is merely a subject of disagreement among distant cousins. Right? Because any other argument is just stupid.

Let's not go throwing our brains out with our bathwater around here. There's enough religious warfare around without the would-be peacemakers losing our minds too.

 

[osan]

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/2...-was-suspended-for-refusing-to-step-on-jesus/

WHAT.

THE.

FUCK.

This is the first time I have ever heard of anyone being suspended from college.


Seriously, what planet am I on?

 

[acptulsa]

WHAT.

THE.

FUCK.

This is the first time I have ever heard of anyone being suspended from college.


Seriously, what planet am I on?

Oh, I've heard of people being suspended from college. I have, in fact, heard of people being suspended from college for being extremely offensive. This is, however, the first time I've heard of someone being suspended from college for refusing to be offensive...

 

[QuickZ06]

Oh, I've heard of people being suspended from college. I have, in fact, heard of people being suspended from college for being extremely offensive. This is, however, the first time I've heard of someone being suspended from college for refusing to be offensive...

Yeah this whole story is just plain bizarre.

 

[Ender]

Mormonism and JWs, as well as SDAs are all offshoots or Christian neo-religions. Much like the Qadayanis of India, they have re-interpreted the religion, added new prophets (Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White) and dismissed traditional doctrines like the Trinity. All three groups are exclusionary - it is not possible to be a believer in Jesus without accepting Joseph Smith or Ellen G. White as modern-day prophets. In that respect, they are the inspiration for Scientology.

As always, I do not intend to offend anyone who belongs to these groups.

Mormons are NOT "off-shoots". They are a separate religion based on Jesus Christ with a philosophy that believes that prophets are still an important part of religion. They also believe in the Father, Son & Holy Ghost, but their belief is that these are 3 separate beings not one God rolled into one.

And, you can certainly be a Christian w/o believing in Joseph Smith- don't know where you got that idea.

 

[QuickZ06]

I think some might be getting there facts from South Park regarding Mormonism............

 

[Ender]

Except, Abraham never existed and Monotheism is a product of six-century (BCE) thinking circling around the Three Great Ancient Monotheisms (Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Samaritanism). Later these religions ended up creating dozens more - Mandaenism, Manichaenism, Christianity, Islam, Druze, Baha'i, etc just to name a handful. Not to mention the offshoots of these (Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, the Seventh-Day Adventists, Alevi, Alawi, etc)

So saying they go back to Abraham is about as ridiculous as saying Hinduism goes back to Lord Krishna 5000 years ago.

(I'm a descendant of "Abraham" allegedly)

Sorry- but Abraham did exist, as does Krishna.

And Allah is the Arabic name of God- Christian Arabs call God, the father, ALLAH.

 

[Cody1]

Smart3 you're full of shit. Many in my family are SDA's and aren't exclusionary like you claim they are. The trinity is in SDA unlike your claims. The only main issues that really clash are over the true Sabbath which is Saturday, not Sunday, and the concept of an immortal soul/Eternal suffering in "Hell". I believe in grace which supersedes denominational boundaries.

In other words.

You're full of shit.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I wouldn't write anyone's God or religion on a piece of paper, fold it up, and step on it. It's called respect and common decency.

 

[AFPVet]

Should have just wrote "Obama" on the piece of paper.

Yup

 

[Philhelm]

Years ago I would have claimed that there must be more to this story. Not these days though. What kind of stupid classroom activity is this? Students could become more enlightened by sticking their fingers in their butts.

 

[phill4paul]

Years ago I would have claimed that there must be more to this story. Not these days though. What kind of stupid classroom activity is this? Students could become more enlightened by sticking their fingers in their butts.

I see what you did there.....

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4668

 

[jclay2]

Interesting to note that despite all of the attacks recently on Mormons not being Christians, it was a Mormon who stood up for Jesus. Who's willing to bet there were some nominal Christians in the class who went along with the teacher? Romans 13. Obey the authority put above you.

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

[AFPVet]

Telling students to step on what they hold dear is repugnant and unacceptable.