Student Calls Out Teacher in Front of Class

[dannno]

How old are you if its ok to ask?

I'm early 30s. It wasn't that way when I went to school or even college but maybe school has changed that much? I ask because I've got 2 small ones, one about to start Kindergarten.

I think packets didn't really take off until after the year 2000. Conan missed that one.

 

[dannno]

Another fun story.

Had a history teacher in high school. He was tenured so there was nothing you could do about him. He literally had a recliner in his room. It was not uncommon on nice days for him to pop a video in and go drive golf balls outside.

Anyway, his grades were as follows: If you read the book, turn in all the homework you get a C. If you miss even one homework your grade is entirely dependent on your fill in the bubble test scores. I knew that I could get an A just doing the tests. I didn't do one single piece of homework. At the end of the year he called me up and chewed me out for not "participating" in class by not doing his homework. (there were no checks in his book for homework) I asked if that meant I get graded based on my test scores. He said yes. I asked him what my test scores gave me for a grade (I knew it was an A). He opened his book for the first time and added all them together. He said an A. I said thank you and walked off.

Not as good as the Germany story.

 

[Lucille]

Duncanville student's teacher rant goes viral
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/22201163/duncanville-students-teacher-rant-goes-viral

DUNCANVILLE, Texas - A Duncanville High School student who was kicked out of class lectured his teacher on his way out.

FOX4's Calvert Collins spoke with him after his rant, which was recorded by a fellow classmate.

His passionate speech has gone viral. It's gotten tens of thousands of hits and comments after it was posted online.

On Thursday, the district announced it would not punish Jeff Bliss for his actions. He said he was upset by what he says is his teacher's lack of passion for her profession

The teacher has been put on paid leave while the district investigates the incident. The district said that is standard procedure during investigations, but wouldn't say how long the leave will last.

"We love it when students are passionate about education," Duncanville ISD superintendent Dr. Alfred Ray told FOX4.

Ray also admitted the "setting and the tone could have been different" about Bliss' statements.

Bliss' mother is relieved the district didn't punish her son.

"When you take a chance like that, there could always be something that doesn't work out well," Rhonda Bliss said.

Jeff Bliss said he was standing up for his education but admits he could have handled it differently.

He hit a boiling point over a test in his World History class Tuesday morning.

"My question was, why we don't get the same amount of time to take the test as the rest of her classes," said Bliss.

He says his teacher replied with profanity telling him to stop his questioning and leave. That's when he erupted.

Bliss says in the rant, "If you would just get up and teach them instead of handing them a freaking packet, there's kids in here who don't learn like that."

Even though the video is viral, he said he doesn't want all the attention.

"I don't want people to look up to me as something to idolize or anything, I'm just as human as the next person," said Bliss.

He said he's received support from teachers and administrators.

Bliss said his mom was proud of him but said his attitude could have been better.

He said he backs up his outburst with his past because he dropped out of high school after his freshman year. He later returned and said he takes his schoolwork seriously. He asks that his teachers do the same.

Duncanville ISD released a statement reading, "We want our students and teachers to be engaged, but the method by which the student expressed his concern could have been handled in a more appropriate way."

 

[kcchiefs6465]

How old are you if its ok to ask?

I'm early 30s. It wasn't that way when I went to school or even college but maybe school has changed that much? I ask because I've got 2 small ones, one about to start Kindergarten.

We honestly had test questions about what was in our syllabuses. Random parts of it too. Sometimes it would be extra credit and sometimes not. To keep you on your toes and make sure you are reading the packet. I've had teachers require to bring it to class daily, some require you write your homework assignments in them. Annoyed me to no end. About as much as having to show your work on math problems.

As I understand it, with No Child Left Behind and the emphasis on memorizing standardized bullshit test questions, they started putting pressure on the teachers to do such meaningless things. We had whole classes devoted to how to study. They somehow turned 'study' into an acronym but I was a little to stoned to care to memorize it.

Much of high school is a waste. The times I asked my teachers why I was learning things I'd never use they'd simply reply because it's on the test.

 

[fr33]

So he didn't get suspended but his teacher did. Good stuff.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Seems like a lot of people are trying to say that he could have done it better. I disagree. I think he did it absolutely perfectly. He solicited the best possible response from the teacher for all to see in doing it the way that he did. Is how things get done and perhaps why so many are saying he should have done it differently. Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.

 

[fr33]

Are they really?! I hope callers are taking them to school, so to speak.

Mark Davis was as well as the few callers he took. It's weird. Conservatives don't like the public education system but they also have this deep respect for authority that contradicts their limited-government principles.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

sad but true. i work at a school as a lowly janitor so i get to see and hear it all. this is true about the packets. however the teachers at our school HATE the packets bs. they despise having to do it. but the system makes them anyway. they have to pass almost everyone even if the kid has a 40 average. and a 40 in this school is very very common. the kids refuse to do homework, do tests, do anything because they know the system will pass them anyway. they just sit there and the parents always blame the teachers.

im sure some teachers suck and are lazy, but this kid in the video spoke the damn truth about the way things are done in the schools. this needs to go viral. i doubt it will matter though.

this coming year in ga the kids will start filling out review sheets on the teachers. these sheets will play a part in determining the pay scale. its an excuse for the system to cut pay. the crap teachers should be fired. the good ones will be swallowed up with the bad however at this rate. shitty system.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

sad but true. i work at a school as a lowly janitor so i get to see and hear it all. this is true about the packets. however the teachers at our school HATE the packets bs. they despise having to do it. but the system makes them anyway. they have to pass almost everyone even if the kid has a 40 average. and a 40 in this school is very very common. the kids refuse to do homework, do tests, do anything because they know the system will pass them anyway. they just sit there and the parents always blame the teachers.

im sure some teachers suck and are lazy, but this kid in the video spoke the damn truth about the way things are done in the schools. this needs to go viral. i doubt it will matter though.

this coming year in ga the kids will start filling out review sheets on the teachers. these sheets will play a part in determining the pay scale. its an excuse for the system to cut pay. the crap teachers should be fired. the good ones will be swallowed up with the bad however at this rate. shitty system.

I remember filling those out as well. Most of my teachers were generally good people trying to make the best of a bad situation so I'd always give them good marks. I think if there was an honest survey the teachers would be by and large against the packets as well. No Child Left Behind, which brought about some standardized tests, which determine if a school ought to be taken over by the government, completely ruined what was to begin with a pretty bad system.

One of the things I have against public schooling is that people excel at different things. Why someone who aspires to be a writer needs to know calculus I'll never know. There are a few areas that all people should know but a good majority of my 'schooling' I've never used and forgotten. It wasted a lot of my time. Not to say high school wasn't fun.

 

[osan]

Signs of intelligence in the classroom!

To be stamped out forthwith and with extreme prejudice.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Seems like a lot of people are trying to say that he could have done it better. I disagree. I think he did it absolutely perfectly. He solicited the best possible response from the teacher for all to see in doing it the way that he did. Is how things get done and perhaps why so many are saying he should have done it differently. Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.

If we were completely honest, if he had filed a complaint with the administration this story would never have gotten the coverage it did. His complaint would likely have been blown off and things immediately returned to the status quo. He's basically backed the school board into a corner, which would never have been possible without a rant and a viral youtube video (whom we should really credit with the student with the camera-phone, since Jeff Bliss admitted he wasn't aware he was being filmed).

It's a shot heard round the world in terms of our education system.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Government has perfected education. In the old days, there was very little homework, and students were far more advanced. The government has duplicated its own inefficiency.

And don't get me started on these traffic jams as parents pick up their kids from Middle School. We walked (or rode bikes) to school by ourselves in kindergarden! No one was picked up by their parents, unless it was a storm or an emergency. We are creating a nation of ignorant, overworked, helpless drones.

 

[The Bavarian]

The greatest culture shock that I received when I moved to this country was the vast difference in how the educational system was run, including but not limited to, the blatant sloppy laziness of most teachers and the dreaded PACKETS.

PACKETS, that word still haunts me to this day.

 

[V3n]

If Education is of interest to you; I hope everyone has the chance to see "Waiting for Superman" (on Netflix streaming)
It's an eye-opener!

 

[affa]

can someone explain what this 'packet' is?

i'm old enough to have never experienced them, and my kid will never end up at a public school.

 

[nobody's_hero]

can someone explain what this 'packet' is?

i'm old enough to have never experienced them, and my kid will never end up at a public school.

It's education in a can. Just add water. We tell you the answers and you fill in the blank. Then *poof!* You're smart-ified.

Courtesy of every child left behind.

 

[affa]

wow.
okay, i'm posting two comments from the news article someone just linked to.

they're both from high school aged people, based on their facebook info (i can't believe people posting on news articles now have their face and affiliation listed).

anyway, the first is... what it is. but the response? awesome.

in response to someone defending the kid:

POST 1:
Still, in Romans 13 it states we are to obey our authority. Obviously, that doesn't quite sit well when we are under circumstances like this, but if I was going to approach a certain or instructor in such a way about my issue with the curriculum.. I would have addressed it one on one, and if matters werent addressed then I'd take it to the Board. Now, there is the issue that people are patting him on the back for a job well done, when in relevance to what I've studied in scripture and have grown in my submission to who God has placed over me, everything about this bothers me. This is why the older generation looks at our youth as "disrespectful", because back then, they would cringe at the idea of lashing out at a teacher because they knew that the teacher was placed above them.. but nowadays, kids have no respect for adults or instructors. Everywhere in the word of God can you find a scripture to prove that how this kid addressed the issue is very unbiblical because, obviously: "Everyone must submit themselves to the governing authority, for there is no authority except that which God has established." Romans 13 , Proverbs 21:23, "Whoever keeps his mouth and his tongue keeps himself out of trouble." , Ephesians 4:29, "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasions, that it may give grace to those who hear." and plenty more... thats just my take on everything.

POST 2 / response:
Samantha, perhaps the young man isn't Christian, or perhaps a ‘biblical conversation’ wasn't what he was looking for. Sometimes you've got to make some noise to be heard. This boy felt passionately about a righteous cause, and he stood up for something he knew to be just. That takes courage and heart, and IS to be applauded. That type of honor is rare in our society today. Respect is not something that is automatically inherited just because one was born first; you must first GIVE respect if you wish to be given respect, and clearly this Teacher lacked respect for her students, her school district, and her profession. Why on earth would she expect any respect in return? She didn't earn it! I am going to be a high school teacher, and they won’t respect me because they are ‘supposed’ to, they will respect me because I earned it; because I will respect them. Do you honestly believe that God would prefer his children sit idly by, and silently watch the injustices of the world, out of fear that standing up for what is Right may ruffle a few feathers? Christians are supposed to be a force of good in the world, not a force of righteous indifference.
“Everyone must submit themselves to the governing authority, for there is no authority except that which God has established”— Did you just suggest that everyone in power, and everyone who’s ever been in power, has a divine right to rule? Seriously? Where would civilization be if no one Ever revolted against a corrupt system? If everyone silently and unquestioningly accepted the injustices and cruelties.. Who would that benefit? How would society evolve? THIS is not why the ‘older generation’ thinks our generation ‘disrespectful’ the Older Generation (the generation of My grandmother and grandfather) raised hell, and kicked and screamed, to try and fight for justice in this country. They were freedom fighters and hippies and soldiers. They pity our generation because we are silent, because there aren’t more of us willing to put ourselves out there and stand up for what is right, like that young man did. Because we silently and obediently accept the “authority” of people that have no more ‘right to rule’ than you or I. Authority is something WE give THEM, not something they were innately born with. I’m sorry dear, but you’ve got it all wrong.

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that second comment made my morning. that it was written by a high school kid made my day.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

can someone explain what this 'packet' is?

i'm old enough to have never experienced them, and my kid will never end up at a public school.

I think it's like 5 or 6 pages stapled together that explain the lesson. When I was in HS (private) it was used in addition to teaching and a textbook. I suppose in this case (and I doubt this teacher is the only one doing this) the teacher handed out packets instead of actually standing up teaching the class.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

This is simply proof that the public education system is actually working. See, the children of our nation have acquired such a vast wealth of knowledge they're literally capable of teaching themselves. So of course the next logical step is to hoard them into classrooms for the 12-hours out of every single day of the week throughout the entire year. Those genius teachers of ours!

I've never known a school to be in session for 12 hours a day...

 

[V3n]

I've never known a school to be in session for 12 hours a day...

I'll let him speak for himself; but he did say "next logical step"

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/28/e...-for-12-hour-school-days-longer-school-years/

Education secretary calls for 12-hour school days, longer school year

“In all seriousness, I think schools should be open 12, 13, 14 hours a day, seven days a week, 11-12 months of the year,” Duncan said.