Story on Ventura, Tucker

[Nirvikalpa]

I hear ya with the tucker "balls" coMment but, why do u think Ventura needs to grow a brain? What was so out of line with the bin laden questions? Ron Paul even admitted that the questions were perfectly valid in a post-rally interview.

I see alot of Ventura bashing but have yet to see anyone of the "anti-truthers" give a decent response to the perfectly valid questions Ventura raised.

Ventura also does not make claims, he just asks questions about things that don't make sense to him.

Simple: it wasn't the time or the place to be discussing the matter. Out of something called respect (for Ron Paul) he should have kept his big mouth shut and not have ran with his ego.

 

[sratiug]

Anti-truthers are just stupid. Doesn't everybody know that some of those hijackers were found later alive and well? WTF? And why has there been no trial of Bin Laden. Really. Why not? Why were Bin Ladens aloud to fly out of the US (when no one else could) without being treated as suspects, or is it because they were suspects? Bush wanted Henry Kissinger to head the 911 Commission. One of the biggest criminals in history. Why not a prosecutor? There is no rational explanation for the events of 911. If you are anti-truth you are anti-American. Please STFU.

 

[awake]

If I were looking to disrupt this movement the most (which I am not) I would most want to pour salt onto the Truthers vs Ron Paulers drama that is so easily done here. Remember folks there are programs already long ago at work to disrupt this movement. Be wise and recognize that it is systematic to them in nature - divide and conquer, place false leaders, diversion, play one faction on another etc.

Psyops 101

For those who do not fall for the above tactics can easily appreciate that we share a single idea that we all are allowed to say what we believe... let this be our common denominator of who is welcome in this movement and who is not.


The whole thing can be summed up in the universal solder portion of Dr. Pauls speech... we all have been deceived by powerful men and their delusional quests for self validation. Mr Ventura is not out of line in any way shape or form when he approaches the 9/11 topic, let the man ask valid questions....

 

[RickyJ]

I am relieved to hear that Jessie was not suppose to talk about 9/11.

You can believe what you want to believe but I highly doubt that Jesse agreed to not talk about 9/11 and then did so. Jesse is a man of his word. First of all he wouldn't agree to not talk about something in the first place that he thought was important. Second, if he did so then he would keep his word.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Yeah, there's no reason to believe Ventura made some kind of agreement when the only source is this neo-con article. I'll only believe it if someone inside or close to the CFL organizers speak up and say this was so.

 

[RickyJ]

Out of something called respect (for Ron Paul) he should have kept his big mouth shut and not have ran with his ego.

It is OK to give Ron Paul respect, but when he is as wrong as he is about 9/11 it is time to wake him up, not let him remain ignorant.

 

[ClayTrainor]

Simple: it wasn't the time or the place to be discussing the matter. Out of something called respect (for Ron Paul) he should have kept his big mouth shut and not have ran with his ego.

well, that's your opinion.

He didnt' make any baselss claims, and is a well known "911 Truth Advocate", so Ron Paul simply inviting him to speak is ground enough for the media to connect him to the 911 truthers.

Ron Paul is not afraid of associating himself with the truthers and actually welcomes their support but, you are correct there is a time and place for this angle of marketing but, i argue that Ventura did not disrespect Ron Pauls convention in any way.

Even if Ventura completely left out the bin laden questions, im pretty sure we'd have alot of people upset and badmouthing jesse simply because he's a truther, who implied that he may make a run for the presidency (with extreme confidence), and will most likely have a large portion of the RP Revolutions support. This tends to anger people who think the 911 conspiracies are simply ridiculous. Although i still have yet to hear what was so ridiculous about his questions.

Dont forget we're all labeled as conspiracy theorists by the media without even including the 911 issue.

Jesse does have a big ego, but I think he's genuinely concerned for his nation, and did not go into 911 truth, just asked a couple of provocative questions.

I actually think he was quite respectful with the issue and the questions he asked are genuine, logical questions that we should all be aware of, truther or not.

There were several people with 911 truth tshirts on at the rally... I dont appreciate the chanting and aggressive tactics at the rally but, i stand by my statement that,

Ventura said nothing out of line in regards to 911 and you guys seem more pissed off at his personality than his positions.

And i still stand my statement that i've been saying since the beginning of these Ventura topics...

I hear ALOT of bitching about Ventura's questions but have yet to hear 1 single response that discredits them.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Anti-truthers are just stupid. Doesn't everybody know that some of those hijackers were found later alive and well? WTF? And why has there been no trial of Bin Laden. Really. Why not? Why were Bin Ladens aloud to fly out of the US (when no one else could) without being treated as suspects, or is it because they were suspects? Bush wanted Henry Kissinger to head the 911 Commission. One of the biggest criminals in history. Why not a prosecutor? There is no rational explanation for the events of 911. If you are anti-truth you are anti-American. Please STFU.

With us or against us, is it?

Hypocrite.

 

[ClayTrainor]

With us or against us, is it?

Fuck you, hypocrite.

Yea i hear ya...

sometimes i really get angered at the behavior of some truthers.

I'm always preaching unity... we need everyone in this movement, truthers and anti-truthers alike.

The debate simply isnt over, and there's no point in us dividing ourselves on an unresolved issue when we have so much in common in so many other aspects of the political spectrum.

We need to learn to discuss 911 with respect, and leave the insults behind... that goes for both sides of the argument!

 

[CasualApathy]

Simple: it wasn't the time or the place to be discussing the matter. Out of something called respect (for Ron Paul) he should have kept his big mouth shut and not have ran with his ego.

Ron Paul doesn't demand respect from people, thats what makes him so special. He would never limit the free speech of anyone because he is a man of principle. We should all live up to that standard instead of getting offended so easily, and so should people outside this movement. The only way they are going to learn that is by being brought out of their comfort-zone every once in a while.

 

[jyakulis]

seriously tucker can eat shit. he probably lost us more votes than the truthers did singlehandedly with his little racist piece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWpADkP4QqY

at least 3 people that i spoke with about ron paul trying to talk them into supporting him immediately started telling me how ron was a racist and how they could never support him because of this.

 

[Flash]

seriously tucker can eat shit. he probably lost us more votes than the truthers did singlehandedly with his little racist piece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWpADkP4QqY

at least 3 people that i spoke with about ron paul trying to talk them into supporting him immediately started telling me how ron was a racist and how they could never support him because of this.

The most shocking thing is that 3 people actually watched that boring show.

 

[ChrisInMN]

It wasn't an open mic night where notable guests got to exercise their first amendment rights and speak on a topic of their choosing. The rally was for the CFL, and was about liberty. I don't see why people would think that the organizers wouldn't tell speakers to actually stay on topic.

And Ventura's speech was 100% about liberty. Before he brought up 9/11 he stated that his mother and father are both WWII vets, himself and his brother are both Vietnam Vets and that he's earned the right to say what he wants to say and regardless of the venue I agree with him.
After Ventura's been on Alex Jones several times talking 9/11, and every single mainstream media event he's done in support of his book (which again, he talks about 9/11 for half the book) and bring up 9/11 - does it really take a rocket scientist to understand what he's probably going to bring up in a speech?
Sure, it wasn't open mic night, but obviously someone thought it would be a good idea to have a Ventura open mic night and that's what they got. For people to cry about what happens after they make a choice is 100% against what Dr. Paul preaches. If they were scared of anything 9/11 related coming up, then Ventura was a poor pick for a speaker - plain and simple.

ChrisInMN

 

[RickyJ]

Heck, whoever invited Tucker really screwed up. I sure hope Dr. Paul didn't.

 

[libertarian4321]

Anti-truthers are just stupid. Doesn't everybody know that some of those hijackers were found later alive and well? WTF? And why has there been no trial of Bin Laden. Really. Why not? Why were Bin Ladens aloud to fly out of the US (when no one else could) without being treated as suspects, or is it because they were suspects? Bush wanted Henry Kissinger to head the 911 Commission. One of the biggest criminals in history. Why not a prosecutor? There is no rational explanation for the events of 911. If you are anti-truth you are anti-American. Please STFU.

You look good in that tin foil hat, where can I get one?

 

[nate4ron]

It's hard enough getting people to support Ron Paul and his message, but it becomes impossible once they find out 9/11 truthers are associated with him. Good job, guys! Less people are inclined to join the "revolution" because you can't help but be so outspoken about 9/11 being an inside job. Awesome!

 

[HaddEnuff]

You look good in that tin foil hat, where can I get one?

In other words, you have no answers.

 

[HaddEnuff]

It's hard enough getting people to support Ron Paul and his message, but it becomes impossible once they find out 9/11 truthers are associated with him. Good job, guys! Less people are inclined to join the "revolution" because you can't help but be so outspoken about 9/11 being an inside job. Awesome!

Yeah, guys. If you "truthers" weren't here, the mainstream media would have seen the light and jumped on Ron Paul's side and he would be the Republican nominee by now.

 

[nate4ron]

Yeah, guys. If you "truthers" weren't here, the mainstream media would have seen the light and jumped on Ron Paul's side and he would be the Republican nominee by now.

I'm talking about getting others to join Ron Paul's movement and adopt his message. I said nothing of the mainstream media...

 

[HaddEnuff]

I'm talking about getting others to join Ron Paul's movement and adopt his message. I said nothing of the mainstream media...

...and that's the problem. You don't even see the connection.