Story on Ventura, Tucker

[Rangeley]

From our friends at the Weekly Standard. It's written by Matt Labash, a friend of Tucker Carlson (apperantly) and journalist for the above organization.

...My high-placed Paultard source gives me all sorts of insider dope. Former Minnesota governor/pro wrestler Jesse Ventura, who is on the speaking docket, is a serious 9/11 denier. So the Paulians have convinced Ventura to button it on the subject, since furthering the cause of liberty and sound money doesn't have much to do with who Ventura thinks may or may not have felled the Twin Towers...

...Backstage I find Jesse Ventura holding court. In jeans and a Navy SEAL T-shirt under a sports jacket, his large shiny head ringed with long wisps of unkempt hair, he has, since leaving office and moving to Mexico, taken on the demeanor of a deranged homeless man. When I approach, Ventura is talking about his Belgian Malinois attack dog who understands commands in three languages, and who's picking up Spanish as a fourth. "He's the smartest one in the house," he says, making an entirely believable claim.

I decide to bait Ventura, offering that some of the 9/11 Truthers in the crowd are disappointed their viewpoints aren't being represented.

"They will when I get up there," he growls. He says he's been studying the issue "for well over a year and a half," and he feels "very strongly that the truth has not been forthcoming."

When asked what the truth is and whether the government had something to do with it, he says, "I don't know. But I know this, I do have somewhat of a demolition background, being a member of the Navy's underwater demolition team, and I spoke to a few of my teammates a couple weeks ago. We're all in agreement that buildings can't fall at the rate of gravity without being assisted. And that's called physics, that's not an opinion."

Taking the stage, Ventura has the crowd ululating as he hits all the hot buttons, from the evils of the Patriot Act and closed presidential debates to the need to jealously guard our Second Amendment rights. Then, keeping his promise to me (and breaching assurances to convention organizers), he gets down to business, to a little "something called 9/11." It's like lighting a match around the double-knits. They ignite.

Under the impression that there are no stupid questions, Ventura proceeds to ask several: such as why doesn't the FBI website's list of top ten international terrorists include the 9/11 attacks among Osama bin Laden's other crimes? And why hasn't the Justice Department charged Osama bin Laden? Though he doesn't actually accuse the government of participating in the attacks, he doesn't need to, judging from the crowd reaction. "Inside job!" someone chants.

Backstage afterwards, Ventura is further holding court for reporters, after having hinted to the crowd that he might be amenable to a presidential run in 2012 if the Revolution stays on track. "I will be watching!" he threatened.

Tucker hadn't heard the speech, so I break the news to him that Ventura got off his leash. Being a devout believer in the conventional, single-bullet version of the 9/11 attacks (that the terrorists acted alone), Tucker is both alarmed and offended, but doesn't have much time to reflect. He is accosted by some grubby indie-media types who start trying to engage him: "Have you ever heard of the Controlled Demolition Hypothesis. .  .  . Who I believe did it are the ones who control our money systems. .  .  . Have you followed the [National Institute of Standards and Technology] report on the collapse of building seven?"

After a brief sparring match with the nutcakes, Tucker looks ashen. "This is crazy. I've got to get out of here. Let's go get dinner." We slip out the back door of the arena to hail a cab and get some steaks. But Tucker's still supposed to be emceeing the event, and Paul has yet to speak.

"Are you going to tell him you're leaving?" I ask.

"Nahhh," Tucker says. "I really like Ron Paul. I don't want to hurt his feelings."

While I can't say that the sole act of this journalist's baiting was what caused Ventura to break his promise to Ron Paul and the organizers of the rally, I can say Ventura, for whatever reason, broke his promise to them. People who said he wouldn't have been invited if Ron Paul didn't want him to talk about it are silly - he invited people who probably have all sorts of different views on different issues. The one area they all agreed on was on liberty - and not coincidentally, that was what the rally was about. It wasn't about religious views, it wasn't about people's favorite sports teams. And it wasn't about 9-11.

It also sheds light on Tucker Carlson's leaving - he was given assurances that it would stay on message, and that was broken. While I don't really like that he left, he wasn't the one to break the agreement and at least had a reason to leave.

 

[Primbs]

Why leave at that point. He was already there on camera. Tucker can't hide the fact that he wasn't there.

Didn't Tucker put Ron Paul in a difficult position again, by leaving during the middle of an event?

 

[RickyJ]

Tucker looks ashen. "This is crazy. I've got to get out of here. Let's go get dinner." We slip out the back door of the arena to hail a cab and get some steaks. But Tucker's still supposed to be emceeing the event, and Paul has yet to speak.

"Are you going to tell him you're leaving?" I ask.

"Nahhh," Tucker says. "I really like Ron Paul. I don't want to hurt his feelings."

Tucker is a good little stooge for the government. This was his plan all along folks, to sabotage the rally by getting up and leaving in the middle. He is a lowlife loser and always will be.

 

[Kotin]

Tucker is a good little stooge for the government. This was his plan all along folks, to sabotage the rally by getting up and leaving in the middle. He is a lowlife loser and always will be.

yeah shit.. he sure sabotaged it.


I mean gosh, without tucker there it cant be good.


lol cmon wtf who cares that he left??

 

[Jeremy]

this sounds like fiction

youre saying he left because he wanted to have a chat with some guy?

 

[Rangeley]

Why leave at that point. He was already there on camera. Tucker can't hide the fact that he wasn't there.

Didn't Tucker put Ron Paul in a difficult position again, by leaving during the middle of an event?

I agree, I don't think he should have left. But when Ventura broke his promise, it meant that the promise to Tucker that it would not drift into such side topics was broken.

 

[Rangeley]

this sounds like fiction

youre saying he left because he wanted to have a chat with some guy?

No, we already knew he left because of Ventura. This just shows that 1. Ventura wasn't supposed to talk about his 9-11 views, 2. Ventura was baited into talking about them on stage, 3. Ventura, whether directly because of the baiting or for another reason, broke his agreement and talked about his 9-11 views, 4. The agreement bring broken, Tucker decided to leave.

As I said before, I don't think Tucker should have even though the agreement was broken, but you have to admit that he wasn't the one breaking the agreement. He should have stayed despite it, though, but oh well.

 

[Ninja Homer]

Tucker's a pussy. I hope they didn't pay him anything.

What promise did Ventura break? I haven't heard anything about that.

 

[Jeremy]

No, we already knew he left because of Ventura. This just shows that 1. Ventura wasn't supposed to talk about his 9-11 views, 2. Ventura was baited into talking about them on stage, 3. Ventura, whether directly because of the baiting or for another reason, broke his agreement and talked about his 9-11 views, 4. The agreement bring broken, Tucker decided to leave.

As I said before, I don't think Tucker should have even though the agreement was broken, but you have to admit that he wasn't the one breaking the agreement. He should have stayed despite it, though, but oh well.

in other words, Matt Labash is our newest enemy

 

[No1ButPaul08]

How does the author know that Ventura promised convention organizers to not speak about 9/11?

 

[Rangeley]

in other words, Matt Labash is our newest enemy

The Weekly Standard is a neoconservative magazine, of course they are going to be hostile to our message and trying to do things like this. But the press always tries to bait people into saying things they shouldn't, not just us. If Ventura was truly so foolish as to take the bait and break the agreement, that doesn't reflect well on him. If he was planning on talking about it even without the baiting, well, that doesn't either.

 

[Orgoonian]

Isn't the weekly standard owned by Bill Crystal?

Oops,he is the editor,my bad.

 

[Primbs]

The campaign doesn't want to emphasize the 911 stuff. That is why they wanted Ventura not to mention it.

Probably Ventura got riled up before going on stage and forgot about that one part he wasn't suppose to mention.

It could have been an honest slip up on Ventura's part.

Tucker on the other has proven himself before to not have the best interest of Ron Paul at heart. When he shows up with hookers to a campaign event and gets national news, that is bad.

Did the Nevada delegation try to credential hookers for RNC to put on national television for John McCain? I don't think so.

 

[Rangeley]

Isn't the weekly standard owned by Bill Crystal?

Owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, founded/edited by Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes.

The campaign doesn't want to emphasize the 911 stuff. That is why they wanted Ventura not to mention it.

Probably Ventura got riled up before going on stage and forgot about that one part he wasn't suppose to mention.

It could have been an honest slip up on Ventura's part.

Tucker on the other has proven himself before to not have the best interest of Ron Paul at heart. When he shows up with hookers to a campaign event and gets national news, that is bad.

Did the Nevada delegation try to credential hookers for RNC to put on national television for John McCain? I don't think so.

Yeah, I don't think he should have been chosen as the emcee as he was only signing on under the agreement that people would not delve into their 9/11 views. They should have had someone who would be in even if someone broke their agreement and talked about it, not only just in case something like this happened, but because I think we need people with a higher level of commitment then that. Ron Paul doesn't believe in 9-11 conspiracy theories, yet it doesn't stop him from working with people who talk about it that share his view on freedom.

 

[RickyJ]

If Ventura was truly so foolish as to take the bait and break the agreement

You have no proof there was any agreement to not talk about 9/11.

 

[Ninja Homer]

Asking again... How do you know the CFL asked Ventura not to mention 9/11?

 

[ClayTrainor]

Asking again... How do you know the CFL asked Ventura not to mention 9/11?

I would also like to know this, as it's the first i've heard of it.

Not denying it but, i would like to see some evidence of it before i believe it.

 

[RickyJ]

Ron Paul doesn't believe in 9-11 conspiracy theories

Oh yes he does. He believes the biggest most far out one of them all, the government version.

 

[Rangeley]

You have no proof there was any agreement to not talk about 9/11.

True, until this article I merely speculated that they would have asked people to stay off the topic. With this article, the author is claiming that there was an agreement. I realize it's the Weekly Standard and they have a rather terrible track record for truth, but why would they claim there was an agreement if there wasn't one?

Wouldn't the lack of an agreement be better for them, as they could then criticize the rally, Ron Paul, the CFL etc for approving of it?

 

[RockEnds]

Honestly, I didn't even notice Tucker was gone until I got home and read this forum.