Stop This Flyer~!

[max]

Look, I admire you for putting out the flyer. I love the front side. I have been impressed with the results you have gotten from it, so much so that I will be printing out 500 of them and handing them out this coming weekend.

But I would much rather have them destroy each other, than for Ron Paul supporters to be the ones smearing other candidates.

A funny thing happened tonight. I live in Portland, OR and I was reading a post on this forum. I don't even like Oregon that much, but when someone posted that they thought that it was fascism haven, my hackles rose in defense and I started thinking of all the ways Oregon is not a fascism haven. Then I thoguht to myself, "Wait, what am i doing?" You see, when you attack somebody else's candidate (or sports team or state, apparently) all you get is a response that has that has that person digging in. Not exactly favorable conditions for persuasion. This is why I am against smearing other candidates. You get blowback and unintended consequences.

I see your point...but this is North New Jersey...a bit different from Oregon....folks here go for this stuff..believe me

 

[bbachtung]

that flyer has raised $2000 bucks for group already and brought in several new members..

fuck off you jealous prick

The flyer is great, and I don't know what that mofo singapore is talking about.

 

[Dustancostine]

Did someone make that POS flyer in paint? Hire a professional for fucks sake.

Come on people have some tact. Max did a great job on the flier. Is it professional looking? Maybe not. But that is where the strength of the group comes in. Someone who can do this professionally should take it and redo it and repost it.

Instead of attacking someone, ask how we can make each other better.

If you have a problem with the flier, pm the poster and give some criticism instead of getting all emotional, making a rude post and yell the sky is falling.

Come on People.

--Dustan

 

[max]

The flyer is great, and I don't know what that mofo singapore is talking about.

Sing is a Giuliani or Romney troll who is terrified of the Founding Fathers Flyer,,,,

trust me, this thing has been very effective

 

[bbachtung]

Come on people have some tact. Max did a great job on the flier. Is it professional looking? Maybe not. But that is where the strength of the group comes in. Someone who can do this professionally should take it and redo it and repost it.

Instead of attacking someone, ask how we can make each other better.

If you have a problem with the flier, pm the poster and give some criticism instead of getting all emotional, making a rude post and yell the sky is falling.

Come on People.

--Dustan

I think when you say "professional looking" you mean "slick" and "phony" like Willard. This looks like a very talented grassroots supporter created an excellent persuasion piece.

 

[deedles]

I agree with the last few posts in not liking the pics of H and R. Everything we do is a reflection on Dr. Paul, we all have to remember that always.

I suggest leaving off ALL the pictures except Dr. Paul. Why give those 'chosen ones' any more face time than they already get. Everyone has seen them ad nauseum anyway....

We want people to focus on Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul.

 

[Dustancostine]

I think when you say "professional looking" you mean "slick" and "phony" like Willard. This looks like a very talented grassroots supporter created an excellent persuasion piece.

True.

Not necessarily phony.

If the pictures could be clearer it would be great. But I do love this flier.

--Dustan

 

[American]

If it works dont fix it. There are other flyers that might be more suited to your needs whoever doesnt like the flyer. I know myself personally dont use it because I dont think it would fit in my small conservative town but I can see where it would work in some metro areas.

Just find another one.....

Such class Max, did you hit your keyboard as well?

This is still real early in the campaign lets not fight each other.

 

[isufferfromronpaulfever]

that flyer has raised $2000 bucks for group already and brought in several new members..

fuck off you jealous prick

max. I brought this issue up once already regarding people and their negative bs. Do what you have to do and don't worry about what anybody else says. You aren't getting paid to do this and I'm sure quite a few of these critics don't get off their lazy asses to do anything away. This isn't sponsored by the Ron Paul campaign. Weigh the options and if you feel it's the way it should be done, go with it. Keep up the good work.

 

[mdh]

It's bad enough we have to stop you from marching with the communist party, but now this hit piece with the Rudy in drag and Hillary crosseyed?

A few questions about this statement. First off, who is we? Second off, who is having to be stopped from marching with the communist party? Somehow I doubt the communist party would appreciate Dr. Paul....

 

[kickzman]

It does seem a bit arrogant....

 

[john_anderson_ii]

This is still real early in the campaign lets not fight each other.

I agree.

Besides, if "The Soprano's" is any indicator, people in New Jersey aren't thin skinned, and probably appreciate the humor.

 

[michaelwise]

My first reaction to the second page was to just laugh. I was not offended however, I do not think it will accomplish anything. The version I down loaded last night of the front page only, I thought was brilliant. The last line of the warnings, about the open borders has the most impact, because it is the last statement. For the most part, the wording is good. Oh and you can change the 8 trillion to 9 trillion, because that's what it is up to.

 

[max]

Infiltrators

A few questions about this statement. First off, who is we? Second off, who is having to be stopped from marching with the communist party? Somehow I doubt the communist party would appreciate Dr. Paul....

Trust me...this SING guy and the original poster (nh) are TROLLS...

The Founding Fathers Flyer and the Voting Guide scare the crap out of them!!!!

It's one thing to critique (which I sincerely appreciate)...but the way these two attacked it so viciously is a CLEAR indicator of the terror which these peices have instilled in them

http://www.ronpaulpostcards.com/foundersflyer.html

 

[Dustancostine]

BTW I have said that I like the flier. And I'm adding a "great job Max"


--Dustan

 

[mdh]

As far as real critique of the back of the flier... the biased media thing may be a bit too much for people, and the Giuliani in drag picture may be confusing (people who don't know about the drag thing may not get it at all). The words 'foreign aid' may be misconstrued to mean helping out with disasters, which many people support. The term "open borders" is probably better replaced by "amnesty for illegals", which is a hot buzzword.

 

[john_anderson_ii]

max. I brought this issue up once already regarding people and their negative bs. Do what you have to do and don't worry about what anybody else says. You aren't getting paid to do this and I'm sure quite a few of these critics don't get off their lazy asses to do anything away. This isn't sponsored by the Ron Paul campaign. Weigh the options and if you feel it's the way it should be done, go with it. Keep up the good work.

Precisely, good initiative and bad judgment outweighs perfect judgment and no initiative every time.

 

[Ron Paul Fan]

I like the flyer. Max and his meetup group put some hard work into this which they didn't have to and they got someone to pay to put it in a newspaper. And for some reason a few people are criticizing him for his hard work and dedication. No good job max, no way to go max, just "Stop this flyer, what a shame." Well, I say good job max and you should run the flyer as you see fit. This is your project and don't let anyone else run your life. Anyone that is working hard to spread the message is ok in my book.

 

[max]

I like the flyer. Max and his meetup group put some hard work into this which they didn't have to and they got someone to pay to put it in a newspaper. And for some reason a few people are criticizing him for his hard work and dedication. No good job max, no way to go max, just "Stop this flyer, what a shame." Well, I say good job max and you should run the flyer as you see fit. This is your project and don't let anyone else run your life. Anyone that is working hard to spread the message is ok in my book.

Thanks for the support!

BOTH OF THE POSTERS WHO VICIOUSLY ATTACKED ME ARE BRAND NEW...

They may be Rudy or Romney workers who are afraid of these powerful pieces..
Do you see how they stirred up so much crap.

I dont let nervous nellies bother me. For every voter who is "offended" by the Founding father" and Voter Guide...there are many more who are grateful for the information.....My group members have talked to so many people who THANKED us for the items.

 

[transistor]

both sides of the flyer look horrible. i appreciate the effort but it will surely cause more harm than good