Stop Socialism Memes

I hate to be the one to rain on your parade but its a dirty job and someone has to do it. The immigrant doing the dirty job native Americans refuse to do, where have I seen that before:confused:

Not raining on my "parade". I like parades no matter what the weather.


And I was serious (for once). I like your commentary.
 
I have gotten tired of the whole dishonest socialism debate we have been having and adding to it this whole campaign to smear against Venezuela. Its like something is bad they label it socialism and its good then its capitalism but if you can show an instance when that one good thing is bad, then the same talking heads label it as socialistic. You see that we some people even on this forum and this is what I am lashing out against. Socialism is not as destructive as the propagandists would want you to believe, US interventionism is far more destructive than socialism

I will continue to correct the record until I am tired of that one too.
Freedom is a good thing.

If despair was a specific and measurable metric you would see that free markets, i.e. capitalism, i.e. freedom will result in a better quality of life for any nation (and the world) practicing it than any planned economy or society ever could. You do not see the ventures that have not been undertaken as a result of beaureaucratic leeches on society-- and that goes for America as well. All you see is some alleged particular success (which your ignorance on the matter then goes on to gloss over the actual facts on the subject) and you point to it and be edgy and say, "LOOK, KC, it's not ALL bad."

Like I couldn't see the good in a fresh pile of shit.

The standard of living the world over improved because of capital investment and markets. Not taking from some to pay others, government control of a given sector, or leeches.

You want or wish to advocate for socialism or be edgy with your antiimperialist Che bullshit? Kindly fuck right off right on back to your commune.
 
Freedom is a good thing.

If despair was a specific and measurable metric you would see that free markets, i.e. capitalism, i.e. freedom will result in a better quality of life for any nation (and the world) practicing it than any planned economy or society ever could. You do not see the ventures that have not been undertaken as a result of beaureaucratic leeches on society-- and that goes for America as well. All you see is some alleged particular success (which your ignorance on the matter then goes on to gloss over the actual facts on the subject) and you point to it and be edgy and say, "LOOK, KC, it's not ALL bad."

I don't necessarily disagree with all of that, I have said and will continue to say that a capitalist system will always be more efficient that a mixed/socialist one. But what does any of that have to do with you posting snap shot pics of an attack on Venezuela and labeling it with socialism? If I knew how to create memes, I can make one with Libya burning and label it socialism because we know how bad that socialist country looks now.

My issue with you is that you are pushing neocon propaganda with misleading memes on this site and I do not like it

The standard of living the world over improved because of capital investment and markets. Not taking from some to pay others, government control of a given sector, or leeches.

You want or wish to advocate for socialism or be edgy with your antiimperialist Che bull$#@!? Kindly $#@! right off right on back to your commune.

Yes, I am anti imperialist and that is one reason why I have the Che avatar on. Venezuela and other socialist countries like SA, Kuwait, UAE, Oman, Pre war Libya, Norway can use their oil wealth to finance their socialism to the point where they take less money out of the pockets of their citizens than most so called capitalist countries. This is the reality people like you, Elliot Abrams and John Bolton would want to deny and I will be here to make sure that I call you out whenever I see you doing it.

I hate doing this but at this point, I feel it is necessary.
 
I don't necessarily disagree with all of that, I have said and will continue to say that a capitalist system will always be more efficient that a mixed/socialist one. But what does any of that have to do with you posting snap shot pics of an attack on Venezuela and labeling it with socialism? If I knew how to create memes, I can make one with Libya burning and label it socialism because we know how bad that socialist country looks now.

My issue with you is that you are pushing neocon propaganda with misleading memes on this site and I do not like it
The country was a shit hole long before current or even decades past meddling. I'll leave the reasons why as homework for the reader.

Yes, I am anti imperialist and that is one reason why I have the Che avatar on. Venezuela and other socialist countries like SA, Kuwait, UAE, Oman, Pre war Libya, Norway can use their oil wealth to finance their socialism to the point where they take less money out of the pockets of their citizens than most so called capitalist countries. This is the reality people like you, Elliot Abrams and John Bolton would want to deny and I will be here to make sure that I call you out whenever I see you doing it.

I hate doing this but at this point, I feel it is necessary.
They will still be less prosperous than otherwise if resources were left open to the market.

That is the entire point.

That which is seen versus unseen.

They can pay for their socialism, you say.

They are poorer because of it.

I'm really not trying to beat a dead horse logic here. The argument is not complicated.

Google: mismanagement, theft, graft, cronyism, drinking sewage water and let me know of your incoming epiphany.

And FFS, Che? This thread should have a picture of his corpse to illustrate the failure of socialism.
 
The country was a $#@! hole long before current or even decades past meddling. I'll leave the reasons why as homework for the reader.

I see, you post only recent pics of Venezuela because it has been a shyte hole country long before current events. You should tell this to people who say Venezuela was one of the richest countries in the world before Chavez. Bullshit and you know its bullshit. Saudi Arabia is an uber socialist country but I don't see you using illustrations from that country to prove your point. Why is that KC?


They will still be less prosperous than otherwise if resources were left open to the market.

That is the entire point.

That which is seen versus unseen.

They can pay for their socialism, you say.

They are poorer because of it.

I'm really not trying to beat a dead horse logic here. The argument is not complicated.

Google: mismanagement, theft, graft, cronyism, drinking sewage water and let me know of your incoming epiphany.

And FFS, Che? This thread should have a picture of his corpse to illustrate the failure of socialism.

Oh yea, the average family could have enough resources to put one flat screen tv in every room as opposed to one in the whole house. I am sure that would make them one TV/room happier. There is more to happiness and fulfillment than prosperity, not saying it doesn't help. Also just because their oil money is used to benefit the people doesn't mean they going to be happier if that wealth is given to one lucky winner.

Sorry that you bought into the neocon propaganda but they are in this situation because of the sanctions not socialism. How is it that the worst effects of socialism always befall countries under US economic barrage?

This is the problem with your type, you see the world in black and white, capitalism good and anything else cancer. But I think its more complicated than that, I see capitalism as a sweet BMW and socialism/mixed economy as a corolla. One can be fully satisfied driving a corolla and not be depressed even though his driving experience would be much better in a BMW. Also

I googled neocon interventionism instead and what I saw was a thousand times more terrifying. One day you would wake up and realize how much of a useful tool you have been to the totalitarian overlords running our society, just hope its not too late to act at that point.
 
I have gotten tired of the whole dishonest socialism debate we have been having and adding to it this whole campaign to smear against Venezuela. Its like something is bad they label it socialism and its good then its capitalism but if you can show an instance when that one good thing is bad, then the same talking heads label it as socialistic. You see that we some people even on this forum and this is what I am lashing out against. Socialism is not as destructive as the propagandists would want you to believe, US interventionism is far more destructive than socialism

I will continue to correct the record until I am tired of that one too.

Your central point is well taken, though I hope you are not implying a defense of socialism, but only a criticism of those who twist the truth pursuant to the goal of exposing it for the deep evil it represents.

Lies and deceit profit Freemen nothing.
 
I see, you post only recent pics of Venezuela because it has been a shyte hole country long before current events. You should tell this to people who say Venezuela was one of the richest countries in the world before Chavez. Bullshit and you know its bullshit. Saudi Arabia is an uber socialist country but I don't see you using illustrations from that country to prove your point. Why is that KC?

What is your point, that socialism is OK if done "right"? No. It isn't.

No man is born to lord over another. Therefore, socialism is deepest shyte, as is any other scheme where some men effectively lord over others. Once again, I am on board with your apparent position regarding lies and deceit, but I am not at all in agreement that socialism has anything of net value to offer Freemen, though it may otherwise prove attractive to those of a lesser cloth.

Socialism has absolutely no redeeming quality whatsoever precisely because it it cut from tyranny's bolt.


Oh yea, the average family could have enough resources to put one flat screen tv in every room as opposed to one in the whole house. I am sure that would make them one TV/room happier.

I do not think you can predict this one way or another, even if the likelihoods are with you, where given individuals are under consideration .

There is more to happiness and fulfillment than prosperity

The validity and truth of your assertion turns on one's understanding of "happiness", "fulfillment", and "prosperity" in this specific context. As offered, you've really not said much of anything. Just as you rightly point out the pitfalls of lies and deceit, innuendo and insufficiency are every bit as bad, and I would contend that they are at times worse.

not saying it doesn't help.

Then what?

Sorry that you bought into the neocon propaganda but they are in this situation because of the sanctions not socialism.

You will have to do a whole lot better than your unsupported assertion if a valid argument is part of your goal here.

How is it that the worst effects of socialism always befall countries under US economic barrage?

Question implies facts not as yet in evidence.

This is the problem with your type, you see the world in black and white, capitalism good and anything else cancer.

Truth is truth, even in black and white. Your point is valid, but made too imprecisely - too broadly.

But I think its more complicated than that, I see capitalism as a sweet BMW and socialism/mixed economy as a corolla.

Ultimately, socialism is you walking everywhere with shoes that are falling apart and so ill-fitting that your feet are reduced to wreckage.

One can be fully satisfied driving a corolla and not be depressed even though his driving experience would be much better in a BMW.

BMW? Seriously? I'd rather the Corolla. And F40 or McLaren, OTOH...


I googled neocon interventionism instead and what I saw was a thousand times more terrifying. One day you would wake up and realize how much of a useful tool you have been to the totalitarian overlords running our society, just hope its not too late to act at that point.

The same may be true for you as well.

The tyrants remain. Indeed, they flourish. THey grow stronger by the day, yet virtually all of us remain, quiescent. When was the last time you put an agent to material correction? Never? Me neither, nor anyone I know.

It seems quite clear that you, I, as well as the rest of "us" are quite rather useful to Themme.

Our houses are of glass.
 
I see, you post only recent pics of Venezuela because it has been a shyte hole country long before current events. You should tell this to people who say Venezuela was one of the richest countries in the world before Chavez. Bullshit and you know its bullshit. Saudi Arabia is an uber socialist country but I don't see you using illustrations from that country to prove your point. Why is that KC?




Oh yea, the average family could have enough resources to put one flat screen tv in every room as opposed to one in the whole house. I am sure that would make them one TV/room happier. There is more to happiness and fulfillment than prosperity, not saying it doesn't help. Also just because their oil money is used to benefit the people doesn't mean they going to be happier if that wealth is given to one lucky winner.

Sorry that you bought into the neocon propaganda but they are in this situation because of the sanctions not socialism. How is it that the worst effects of socialism always befall countries under US economic barrage?

This is the problem with your type, you see the world in black and white, capitalism good and anything else cancer. But I think its more complicated than that, I see capitalism as a sweet BMW and socialism/mixed economy as a corolla. One can be fully satisfied driving a corolla and not be depressed even though his driving experience would be much better in a BMW. Also

I googled neocon interventionism instead and what I saw was a thousand times more terrifying. One day you would wake up and realize how much of a useful tool you have been to the totalitarian overlords running our society, just hope its not too late to act at that point.

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Your central point is well taken, though I hope you are not implying a defense of socialism, but only a criticism of those who twist the truth pursuant to the goal of exposing it for the deep evil it represents.

Lies and deceit profit Freemen nothing.
The hell are you babbling about?

The man with a Che Guevara avatar, who speaks of entrepreneurs as "lottery winners"....

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The hell are you babbling about?

Who pissed in your cornflakes? It wasn't me, so try some mannerliness. If you don't understand what I meant, can't you just ask for a clarification instead of coming across like you're mad at the world? I'm usually willing to oblige a query, until one steps over the line of reasonable manners.

The man with a Che Guevara avatar, who speaks of entrepreneurs as "lottery winners"....

Here's a good example. First, how to respond properly:

Of whom do you speak? I don't know who this is as I don't pay much attention to these things.

Next, a wrong way:

What the FUCK are you going on about? Are you fucking mental?

Notice the clear disparity in tone, choice of terms, and so on.

One would be tempted to think this exchange was happening on facebook.
 
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