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[kcchiefs6465]

 

[kcchiefs6465]

 

[kcchiefs6465]

 

[kcchiefs6465]

 

[timosman]

https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1085643185890635777

 

[AZJoe]

 

[timosman]

 

[timosman]

 

[timosman]

 

[juleswin]

I did look it up and its another lie about Hitler, Hitler is not the one responsible for that quote. Crowder made the lazy attempt at attributing a quote to Hitler because it was made by a nazi official. Its like putting Trump's name under some Rand Paul quote just because they are in the same party.

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Back in January 2016, conservative web site Louder with Crowder dipped its toes into the world of fact-checking with an article (“MYTH BUSTED: Actually, Yes, Hitler Was a Socialist Liberal”) that makes the claim that “leftists” have unfairly rewritten history to paint Hitler as right wing, based in part on the fact that the Nazi party had the word “socialist” in its name.

Perhaps ironically, that article opens with a tidbit of literally rewritten history, misattributing a quote by Nazi party member Gregor Strasser to Adolf Hitler:

While Hitler may have co-opted elements of this language when it was politically expedient, they are not his words. Instead, these are the words of early Nazi party official Gregor Strasser, printed in a 1926 pamphlet titled Thoughts about the Tasks of the Future. That pamphlet, as we will discuss in detail below, attempted to appeal to ultranationalist movements on both the left and the right at a time when the Nazis were a fringe political party seeking to carve out as big a part of the German electorate as possible.

Strasser’s pamphlet went on to make these decidedly non-socialist sounding statements as well:

The spirit of our National Socialist idea has to overpower the spirit of liberalism and false democracy if there is to be a third Reich at all! Deeply rooted in organic life, we have realized that the false belief in the equality of man is the deadly threat with which liberalism destroys people and nation, culture and morals. violating the deepest levels of our being!

We have to reject with fanatical zeal the frequent lie that people are basically equal and equal in regard to their influence in the state and their share of power! People are unequal, they are unequal from birth, become more unequal in life and are therefore to be valued unequally in their positions in society and in the state!

Gregor Strasser was a prominent Nazi propagandist in the formative days of the Nazi party. A World War I veteran active in post-war anti-Soviet paramilitary activities, he — along with Adolf Hitler — became one of the two most prominent voices for the party as it attempted to build a cohesive ideology and broad support across the various factions within a deeply divided Germany.

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As it happens, Hitler was not a fan of Strasser’s ideas. While his efforts helped the Nazi’s with early electoral victories in the elections of 1928, his views became dangerously discordant with Hitler’s, and he was assassinated on Hitler’s orders in 1934:

By the early 1930s Strasser was head of the Nazi political organization and second only to Hitler in power and popularity. As leader of the party’s left wing, however, he opposed Hitler’s courting of big business as well as his anti-Semitism and instead favoured radical social reforms along socialist lines. He finally resigned his party offices in 1932. Hitler was able to avert large-scale losses in membership after Strasser’s defection, and, after Hitler’s accession to the chancellorship, Strasser lost almost all of his influence. He was murdered on Hitler’s orders during the [Ernst] Röhm purge of 1934.

The fact that Hitler disagreed with Strasser’s view of “National Socialism” so much that he was killed in part for holding those views makes it all the more absurd to attribute this quote to Hitler, as Louder with Crowder has done.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hitler-nazis-capitalist-system/

 

[juleswin]

Yup, they are eating sewer rats, zoo animals etc etc. This is what happens to the brain when your consumption of neocon propaganda has gone to extreme, you start believing that Venezuelan people have resorted to eating sewer rats for lack of food.

 

[timosman]

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Yup, they are eating sewer rats, zoo animals etc etc. This is what happens to the brain when your consumption of neocon propaganda has gone to extreme, you start believing that Venezuelan people have resorted to eating sewer rats for lack of food.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

 

[juleswin]

More signs someone's brain has been dominated by propagandists, they spout talking points without even thinking about it. How does socialism kill people? please try and use your own words to explain this.

At some point you must have gotten enough fundamental information to think for yourself. Socialism may deprive some people especially when its financed with tax money but they do even less damage when it is financed with natural resources. But indoctrinated people see absolutely no distinction between different kinds of non US/EU mixed, socialist, or communist economies.

 

[timosman]

How does socialism kill people?

Nobody knows. After watching AOC's raise to power, some argue promotion of incompetence is a key component. No other system creates conditions where people can fuck things up so badly.

 

[juleswin]

Nobody knows. After watching AOC's raise to power, some argue promotion of incompetence is a key component. No other system creates conditions where people can $#@! things up so badly.

100s of thousand of people die every year from medical errors but it would be silly to accuse medical establishment of killing people. Humans are and will always be incompetent and incompetence can kill. Maybe you can say living kills and not just socialism kills

 

[Swordsmyth]

How does socialism kill people?

By discouraging production and misallocating resources.
Also by directly killing people who resist its mismanagement.

 

[juleswin]

By discouraging production and misallocating resources.

All govt that collects taxes and especially one that uses a progressive taxation system can be said to discourage production but it would be silly to make the claim that those govt kill their citizen by doing this

Also by directly killing people who resist its mismanagement.

All govts lock up and/or kill people(when they use violence) to resist their authority. This is no different from pro capitalist govts. Try violently resisting the US govt and see what happens to you.

 

[timosman]

All govt that collects taxes and especially one that uses a progressive taxation system can be said to discourage production but it would be silly to make the claim that those govt kill their citizen by doing this



All govts lock up and/or kill people(when they use violence) to resist their authority. This is no different from pro capitalist govts. Try violently resisting the US govt and see what happens to you.

I like when you pretend no historical record exists.