STOP Demonizing Teachers and Cops.

[LibertyEagle]

The government designed the system to prevent that-like a typical archist "system". (see G. Edward Griffin) I am endlessly amused at how you continue to look for solutions to the problem from the generator of the problem. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, eh? LMFAO!!

Debate the topic without throwing insults, or don't respond at all.

 

[acptulsa]

The government designed the system to prevent that-like a typical archist "system". (see G. Edward Griffin) I am endlessly amused at how you continue to look for solutions to the problem from the generator of the problem. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, eh? LMFAO!!

Setting the insults aside (TW taught you well; are you sure you really want to follow in those footsteps?) you fail to answer the question: If a republic is a slow slide to tyranny, how do you prevent either a democracy (rule by mob) or an anarchy--even a voluntaryist anarchy (rule by the strongest) from being a fast slide to tyranny? Seriously?

Our represenatives can't be trusted but we can? How do you figure? Unless you really believe they're all reptilians, that is.

Cognative dissonance indeed.

Either pure democracy or anarchy (not that there's a great deal of difference, it all comes down to who can persuade the biggest mob) still suffers from the same problem as a republic--people can be misled and psychos have reason to try to do it. At least a Constitutional republic has some way of, one helping people see who the thieves are (if they will only look) and, two, structures designed to stop or slow the degradation...

Edit. Damn it--I bit the bait and now we have the 3,472,644th anarchy thread. Silly me...

 

[pcosmar]

Only republics have political landscapes?

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Welcome to the New World Order.
It is not a republic.

 

[acptulsa]

Welcome to the New World Order.
It is not a republic.

Well, I didn't say it was, did I? I just said it had a political landscape.

x2 x2

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Setting the insults aside (TW taught you well; are you sure you really want to follow in those footsteps?).

FWIW, I learned the insulting rhetoric from a number of members here (some of them mods )-not just TW. Experience shows that it gets a point across with certain folks who have difficulty otherwise. I only bring that trick out once in a while. I don't have time to adequately address your other points now. I'll do that later.

ttyl,
HB34.

 

[constituent]

If a republic is a slow slide to tyranny, how do you prevent either a democracy (rule by mob) or an anarchy--even a voluntaryist anarchy (rule by the strongest) from being a fast slide to tyranny? Seriously?

By standing up to those seeking to oppress you, those seeking to rob you for your own good. Government and the "well-meaning" "patriots" who legitimize it, the subservient mindset that perpetuates its growth and encourages continued participation in the rigged game, create (and monopolize) a force so great (yet so diffuse) that the individual is left nearly powerless swimming against the tide of popular opinion... so they don't.

The whole "an" anarchy discussion aside...

Our represenatives can't be trusted but we can? How do you figure?

Who said we can? At least then maybe people'd stop pretending that we could ever trust either.





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What does all of this have to do w/ Teachers/Cops again?
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[Bman]

FWIW, I learned the insulting rhetoric from a number of members here (some of them mods )-not just TW. Experience shows that it gets a point across with certain folks who have difficulty otherwise. I only bring that trick out once in a while. I don't have time to adequately address your other points now. I'll do that later.

ttyl,
HB34.

I do not agree. When you give insults you have for the most part 2 outcomes.

1.) The other person just walks away because they are done dealing with you. You won nothing they just don't deal with people who throw out insults.

2.) The person starts throwing back insults and pretty much everyone involved looks like a child.

Now sometimes I do prefer the later. Becasue even though I look adolescent, I know the other is too stupid to realize that if I don't respond it doesn't mean that I've been defeated.

 

[Xenophage]

I respond very poorly to insults. I'm rather pensive and open to reasonable discussion, but as soon as someone disrespects me in a conversation I lose all respect for them as well.

 

[LibForestPaul]

When teachers call for school vouchers, ya'all let me know. I'll turn on the boob tube when I see them march on Washington to dissolve the Dept of Education. And the AFT.

Hold your breathes, I sure it is coming REAL soon. HEHE

 

[LibForestPaul]

As far as alienating teachers. Depends what was said and how it was said.

i.e. "Good for nothing lazy sobs" probably not the proper method to approach people with when educating them that they are part of a corrupt system that is detrimental to this great nation.

But pointing out how useless Dept of Ed is, how public education steals from the youngest most vulnerable members of society...etc...oh well, truth sometimes leaves a bitter taste in ones mind.

 

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[Kludge]

When teachers call for school vouchers, ya'all let me know. I'll turn on the boob tube when I see them march on Washington to dissolve the Dept of Education. And the AFT.

Hold your breathes, I sure it is coming REAL soon. HEHE

As far as alienating teachers. Depends what was said and how it was said.

i.e. "Good for nothing lazy sobs" probably not the proper method to approach people with when educating them that they are part of a corrupt system that is detrimental to this great nation.

But pointing out how useless Dept of Ed is, how public education steals from the youngest most vulnerable members of society...etc...oh well, truth sometimes leaves a bitter taste in ones mind.

I don't think you're very familiar with commonly-held opinions of teachers. The Teachers' Union (NEA) has spoken publicly against one-size-fits-all public education, and the NCLB Act(src). I think it'd be quite a challenge for you to find a teacher who actually supports the NCLB Act.

I have actually been granted permission to speak (multiple times) at school district board meetings to speak as a student. I once did speak against nationalized education (including the department of education), and the board's response was very sympathetic.

Let's just think about what socialized education has done to schools. Schools aren't allowed to let kids leave school early if their schedule isn't filled, textbooks need to be approved by the DoE to ensure they are PC and in-line with the Department's nationalist agenda, education is mandatory, so schools need to deal with kids who don't want to be there, teachers aren't permitted to strike due to unfair contracts/treatment, and districts' budgets fluctuate constantly and unpredictably due to arbitrary pay rules from the NCLB Act and budget cuts (and stimuluses) from the state/federal government.

 

[Anti Federalist]

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[CaptainAmerica]

[rph -edit, I have just gone through the thread with a chainsaw and did my best to clean out the offtopic, low value, insulting posts. My apologies if I cut too deeply in places]


STOP Demonizing Teachers and Cops.

Let's go on the Ron Paul Blow back principal.

When at the Campaign for Liberty I brought a very smart history teacher with me. I have opened her eyes to the bullshit between the whole REP & DEM Hypocrisy thing and she came with an open mind. After several of the speakers trashed teachers then at the lunch a few of the members trashing teachers she closed her mind and had a bitter Taste about the whole thing. Next time when you are speaking in public or to others think about how you turned away a potential supporter.

We need to focus ON THE SYSTEM not the INDIVIDUALS !!!!!!
It is the system that keeps and maintains the Rotten Apples.
It is the system that is Dumbing down our kids.
If the system was changed SO would the teaching.

THERE ARE A LOT of GOOD teachers and cops WE NEED their support to fight TYRANNY.

good cops.... right. I think I've had enough of that statement. There are only less violent cops, it doesn't mean their participation is good.

 

[CrissyNY]

wow, there are a lot of banned members

AND

i think its fine to demonize teachers and cops...it evens out all the sanctifying of them so many people engage in

 

[presence]

I have no problem with private school teachers and non deputized security.

Fuck cops and I won't let my kid near a public school.

 

[JK/SEA]

comparing teachers to cops?...

lol..

 

[Christian Liberty]

comparing teachers to cops?...

lol..

I agree. Some teachers are really awful with brainwashing, but they are not inherently violent.

 

[JK/SEA]

I agree. Some teachers are really awful with brainwashing, but they are not inherently violent.

i know this teacher on a personal level. I can assure you, she neither brainwashes, or gets violent...unless of course i leave the toilet seat up...

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Where are the good cops in this video? please explain, out of 10 or more cops where is a single good one? nope. dont buy it anymore,just because someone claims to be good doesnt mean they have good will to stop something wrong when its within their ability/authority and power to do so. This is why I cannot believe anymore that there is such thing, because complacency and silence, willfully taking the goose step side by side isnt good.