States no signature needed from Dr. Paul, write-ins count: AL, IA, WI, PA, CA, VT, NH, DE

[WarAnonymous]

Voting Ron Paul. I have yet to hear a persuasive argument to violate my conscience and vote for anyone else. And that includes Johnson.

If Johnson had a shot at winning, I would consider it since he is better than the other two. Since I do not agree with most of Johnson and he has no shot at winning, I will be voting Ron Paul also.

 

[cnaw]

If Johnson had a shot at winning, I would consider it since he is better than the other two. Since I do not agree with most of Johnson and he has no shot at winning, I will be voting Ron Paul also.

Well with that logic you should be voting for either Obama or Romney, since they both have a shot at winning. Unlike Dr. Paul. Another happy vote for the two party system.

 

[Lindsey]

I've read a few times where PA does not require any preplanned action to write Dr. Paul in on the "ballot." I am not sure how true that is in practice. PA passed a law requiring all precincts to use electronic voting (supposedly for ADA reasons) - the only paper voting is absentee ballots. There was a local republican politician running a write-in campaign on the democratic ticket, to keep anyone from challenging him, at the poll I worked during the primary. People who wanted to write his name in, needed to request a little cartridge from the poll worker that allowed them to "write in" his name. When I voted, I looked on the machine for the option for a write-in, and I couldn't find one.

 

[chudrockz]

Not hardly. Ron Paul is the one I want for President. I haven't liked this OR the last LP presidential candidate. I don't know that I ever will. I like some PEOPLE that are in LP, but the party has nothing to do with my vote.

Agree 110%. Bob Barr was a terrible candidate, and I don't like GJ much more. And I've been a MEMBER of the Libertarian Party since 1995. But four years ago was the first time since then that I didn't vote LP for President (voted CP, in fact, after Dr. Paul's endorsement of Baldwin) and it doesn't look that great this time around.

Even if Minnesota "throws away" my write-in vote for Ron Paul, he's still the best guy for President of the United States. And that's who I vote for.

 

[sailingaway]

Well with that logic you should be voting for either Obama or Romney, since they both have a shot at winning. Unlike Dr. Paul. Another happy vote for the two party system.

Except that since some of us WANT to vote for Ron Paul, and it ISN'T for the two main worst, it is simply our accurate vote whereas voting for the OTHER guy who doesn't have a chance wouldn't be. You can vote as you please, but other people's decisions should be respected as well.

 

[sailingaway]

I've read a few times where PA does not require any preplanned action to write Dr. Paul in on the "ballot." I am not sure how true that is in practice. PA passed a law requiring all precincts to use electronic voting (supposedly for ADA reasons) - the only paper voting is absentee ballots. There was a local republican politician running a write-in campaign on the democratic ticket, to keep anyone from challenging him, at the poll I worked during the primary. People who wanted to write his name in, needed to request a little cartridge from the poll worker that allowed them to "write in" his name. When I voted, I looked on the machine for the option for a write-in, and I couldn't find one.

Melissa went to her county and they said write ins were official, but the long and short of it is they don't feel an obligation to tally them separately from 'other' (which I still see as a no confidence vote in those running) and if you want them counted you may have to make an appt to count them yourself per her county, at least.

 

[Eagles' Wings]

Agree 110%. Bob Barr was a terrible candidate, and I don't like GJ much more. And I've been a MEMBER of the Libertarian Party since 1995. But four years ago was the first time since then that I didn't vote LP for President (voted CP, in fact, after Dr. Paul's endorsement of Baldwin) and it doesn't look that great this time around.

Even if Minnesota "throws away" my write-in vote for Ron Paul, he's still the best guy for President of the United States. And that's who I vote for.

With 33 of 40 delegates voting for Ron Raul at the convention, hopefully Minnesota will stand out with write-in votes as well.

Looking forward to writing in Ron Paul for President.

 

[MelissaCato]

Melissa went to her county and they said write ins were official, but the long and short of it is they don't feel an obligation to tally them separately from 'other' (which I still see as a no confidence vote in those running) and if you want them counted you may have to make an appt to count them yourself per her county, at least.

On the voting machine we had in 2008 and 2010 there was always a write in option below the official candidates. I can write in whatever name I want going down the list of offices to vote on.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

We are currently discussing casting protest votes for ourselves.

If we want this to go anywhere, we need to develop a strategy, a plan and a way to publicize this alternative to voters.

-t

 

[sailingaway]

We are currently discussing casting protest votes for ourselves.

If we want this to go anywhere, we need to develop a strategy, a plan and a way to publicize this alternative to voters.

-t

I agree we need to think about publicizing it, but I don't know if we are going to agree on a strategy per se.

 

[fisharmor]

If I'm going to vote for someone based on the long-term impact on liberty candidates, I'm going to vote for Obama.
He can (will) actually win. And when he does, he's going to drive this country straight into the ground and in 4 years we'll have another shot of fielding a Republican candidate.
Gary Johnson can't win, and it would be a major miracle if he cracks 4% nationally. He's a statistical blip.
The fact that he's an anti-liberty moron is just icing on that cake.

Working within the Republican party was the best chance we had. Working within a third party was always - and still is - a one-way trip to obscurity.
If you want to start a third liberty party, you need to start at the ground and work your way up. When LP candidates start winning local elections then we can talk about the effect voting for an LP candidate has on the national level. Until then it is literally a wasted vote, and will be, until the entire system is smashed with a hammer.

If we want to regroup and form a new party that doesn't have a 30+ year history of pushing unrestricted abortion and kicking senior citizens to the curb as its party platform, then I'm all ears. The LP has too much baggage, it has never gotten anywhere, it never will get anywhere, it's out of synch with the liberty movement in general, and, most importantly, it doesn't represent me.

I'm writing in Paul, in Virginia, where I thought it counted, but whether or not it counts makes little difference to me anymore.

 

[Dogsoldier]

Considering Ron PauL WILL be voting for Gary Johnson and so will I.For you people that think differently do you honestly think he will vote for Obama or Romney?

Of course not he will vote for Gary Johnson.

 

[Dogsoldier]

Ron Paul voted for Boehner over polosi.

HE WILL VOTE FOR JOHNSON!!Please don't devide our voting power by writing Ron Paul in.The libertarian candidate will be reported on the msm.Writeins will be called just that "write ins" no names will be told.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I agree we need to think about publicizing it, but I don't know if we are going to agree on a strategy per se.

Strategy, hmmm...

We could go all out to try and win one or two states. TV ads might be an option here.

We could try and win every state tat allows write ins. Tighter budget, but radio ads, newspaper ads, signs and robo-calls are all viable. Also, hitting twitter, facebook, etc hard letters to the editor, contacting reporters, etc.

Assuming Romney's numbers are very poor, we have a real chance by identifying and contacting electors. Kind of a delegate strategy, but harder.

btw: who has access to Dialog or Lexis-Nexus?

What are others thinking about?

-t

 

[erowe1]

But do they really count them all? I don't just mean, is it the law to count them all, but do they really do it.

I know in my state, even when a candidate is a registered write-in candidate, I don't think nearly all of the votes they get end up being reported on the secretary of state website.

 

[sailingaway]

But do they really count them all? I don't just mean, is it the law to count them all, but do they really do it.

I know in my state, even when a candidate is a registered write-in candidate, I don't think nearly all of the votes they get end up being reported on the secretary of state website.

Obviously we can't swear they count even the named candidate's votes. However, after the election in 2008, in CA, I bugged the LA County Recorder until they put Ron's numbers up. No one in San Bernardino appeared to do that, however. they did put up the 'other' vote, which to me is a back up, but someone in SB could have made them post them -- and may have done so later, after I stopped looking.

 

[Cdawg45]

It sucks that their is so much division when it is crunch time, but respect all the reasons listed for voting differently. Our movement just doesn't have the numbers to be divided in 2 or 3 different directions if we are to be noticed, but find it unlikely that we could all agree on the best way to unite on this. Obama will win anyways, so those votes will just blend in. Write-In's for RP will be ignored, thrown away, and discredited. Gary Johnson without the backing of the entire movement won't break 5%, which also will get no respect... Bottom line... we are powerless on our own. 2 Party System will gain steam and live on

 

[MelissaCato]

Considering Ron PauL WILL be voting for Gary Johnson and so will I.For you people that think differently do you honestly think he will vote for Obama or Romney?

Of course not he will vote for Gary Johnson.

What ? Did Ron Paul endorse Gary Johnson ? I missed the memo.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

It sucks that their is so much division when it is crunch time, but respect all the reasons listed for voting differently. Our movement just doesn't have the numbers to be divided in 2 or 3 different directions if we are to be noticed, but find it unlikely that we could all agree on the best way to unite on this. Obama will win anyways, so those votes will just blend in. Write-In's for RP will be ignored, thrown away, and discredited. Gary Johnson without the backing of the entire movement won't break 5%, which also will get no respect... Bottom line... we are powerless on our own. 2 Party System will gain steam and live on

Depressing, but you are right.

+rep

-t

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

DB hiccup - double post - sorry